TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby Russzilla » Mon May 19, 2014 4:24 pm

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby mrbluehair » Mon May 19, 2014 4:53 pm

Thing is the trailers were not meant for us fans, but general public. In that way they were brilliant, because yeah, we can see the difference because we are Godzilla nerds and discussed this thing to death, but they needed a different spin to bring in the non fans, and new folks.

Did I feel misled? Nope, I got Godzilla and a awesome one at that so I win.

Oh and to the "Godzilla Purists" and ones they prop up like some "Godzilla Fan Demigod like Ryfle" you can all have your opinions and are allowed to express them, but may I express to you that over exaggeration of the movie negatives you proclaim are just a call for attention and you can pretty much toss off as far as I'm concerned. The only opinion that matters is mine and it only REALLY matters to me.

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby Dorkzilla » Mon May 19, 2014 5:26 pm

"Godzilla is a tragic love story about two romantic leads who went against all odds to find each other, only to be murdered by an obese serial killer with bad breath."
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby CWSmith » Mon May 19, 2014 5:38 pm

Now that I've had time to gather my thoughts (and see the film a second time lol), let's see if I can give this movie the review it deserves.

-First and foremost I stand by my original thought that this is a fantastic movie that, like others have said, plays incredibly well on multiple viewings. I believe on my first viewing I found myself counting Godzilla's time on screen like an accountant. On my second viewing, I let myself go and I enjoyed the movie infinitely more. The movie flows very well and I think Godzilla has plenty of screen time. There's no question who the real star of the movie is.

-When it comes to the criticisms of the human element, I find them for the most part unfounded. Cranston is really great and owns the first 30 minutes. While I understand disappointment that he dies so early on, I really don't understand the complaints with Aaron Taylor-Johnson. He's playing things stoic yes, but that seems to be in character for a military man to me. I don't think people criticizing him as wooden know what true bad acting really is. Go rewatch Hayden in the Star Wars prequels and come back to me. I thought Watanabe and Strathairn were both excellent and served their respective purposes. The parallels between father and son with Joe and Ford Brody was compelling to me with Ford struggling to do what his father couldn't do: save his family.

-The monsters were all pretty much flawless. I love the MUTOs and I think they're a very worthy addition to the canon. The Big G himself was amazing of course, just oozing machismo and bad assitude. Four times during BOTH my viewings he made the crowd burst into spontaneous cheering: his first appearance in Hawaii, the debut of the atomic fire, the tail whip that killed the male MUTO, and of course, the kiss of death.

-Overall I think I'm sticking with a 9/10. One of the best action movies I've seen in years with genuinely great pacing that makes you crave the huge fight at the end. I really love the contrast between this film and most modern action movies that are constant action upon action upon action until the audience is unfeeling to it. Here, EVERY action set piece is properly built up and has proper meaning. Its very much an old school Hollywood film.

-As far as where this ranks in Godzilla filmdom, I'd place it roughly 4th or 5th. I can't put it up there with G54 or MothravG, but damn is it close.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby MekaGojira3k » Mon May 19, 2014 5:42 pm

It's sitting at 4th or 5th with me as well.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby The Great MM » Mon May 19, 2014 6:04 pm

I really don't think Godzilla was a normal "hero" here, though. Sure, we cheered for him (but then, everyone does - even in GMK!), but he was much more the lesser of two evils that just doesn't care about humanity's involvement. He didn't go out of his way to save "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" and people and when he did, it was obviously accidental. You don't see him trying to stop when he was pushed through the Golden Gate Bridge by the missile barrage, which was PACKED with people. He was a hero by circumstance, not choice.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby Dorkzilla » Mon May 19, 2014 6:06 pm

It's definitely at number 5 for me. Best G film in 20 or so years, in my opinion.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby Dorkzilla » Mon May 19, 2014 6:46 pm

"Godzilla is a tragic love story about two romantic leads who went against all odds to find each other, only to be murdered by an obese serial killer with bad breath."
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby The Great MM » Mon May 19, 2014 7:00 pm

Really don't get all the fan love for GvMZ besides it being the first alien invasion + kaiju movie. >.>
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby MekaGojira3k » Mon May 19, 2014 7:36 pm

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby Diabolik » Mon May 19, 2014 8:10 pm

It's hard to rank...

I like it more then any of the Millennium films, and maybe more then anything in the Heisei era? Those movies haven't aged well...

Movie could in n my top ten of all time. The more I watch the series, the more I find ALOT of full of dull filler.

Even if it's not a perfect story, it has WAY more going on then your average G flick.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Mon May 19, 2014 8:26 pm

The new movie I'd rank higher than pretty much everything the last 25 years. It's in a category like vs Biollante and The Return Of Godzilla just on sheer effort.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby HannibalBarca » Mon May 19, 2014 8:27 pm

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby Cookie » Mon May 19, 2014 8:32 pm

Top 6 off the top of my head...

1.) Gojira 1954
2.) Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla
3.) Godzilla 2014
4.) Godzilla 1985
5.) Godzilla vs Hedorah
6.) Godzilla 2000
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby Cookie » Mon May 19, 2014 8:42 pm

I am thinking between 210-230 domestically plus 400 overseas.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby Gentleman » Mon May 19, 2014 9:33 pm

I'm not a hero. I'm not a savior. Forget what you know.

I'm just a man whose circumstances went beyond his control.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby goji4ever » Mon May 19, 2014 10:01 pm

All I need now is an edit of the prolonged bear roar in goji 2014 using the '89 roar..(if I got that on imax..dammmn!)
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby MekaGojira3k » Mon May 19, 2014 10:47 pm

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby KingKaiju » Mon May 19, 2014 10:55 pm

So, just to clear something up. The bones of that older Godzilla that they found, that thing died from the Mutos that were implanted within it right??
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