The "Eyes" have it....Godzilla pulled out Hedorah'

[el-brazo]

@OtiGoji:

> So, that indicatess that the eyeballs are Hedrium.

As Cleve said, the eyeballs contain Hedrium, but they "are" not Hedrium. Furtermore, I think there probably might be another reason why the film emphasizes that the doctor examines an eyeball of the tadpole. That is, because there's a parallelism (or recurrence of events) ...

Tadpole hurt's doctor's eye => doctor destroys tadpole's eye
Hedorah hurt's Godzilla's eye => Godzilla destroys Hedorah's eye

... which indicates some kind of relationship between the doctor and Godzilla (besides the fact that both play important roles in the live of the doctor's young son). I think that this is not just a mere coincidence, because ultimately it's the doctor (who invented the machinery) and Godzilla (who made it work) who defeat Hedorah, while all others (military, youth movement etc.) fail.

[August]

Iron Forge: LOL! Great job!

Cleve: Spot on.

Legion79: you are quite right, there are two Gigan suits -- I thought that everyone knew that, because they are significantly different.

[MightyGhidorah]

I don't understand what the big commotion over what Godzilla pulls out, they explain the two white molecules or whatever it is that keep the tadpole alive in the middle of the movie, and obviously those two white things he pulls out are them. Thus it would not be his eyes, because his eyes just devloped as he evolved.

[angilas]

[OtiGoji]

[Cleve]

[angilas]

[Xenorama]

[angilas]

[August]

No, Dr. Yano does not say that, he says it's *in* the eye, not that the eye is Hedrium -- even if you look at the shot of what is supposedly under the microscope, the Hedrium (which is the white spot), only compromises a fraction of the area in the "eye of a tadpole ground fine" (AIP's dialogue). Plus, you cannot use the dubbed dialogue as grounds for points in the actual film, since one is not going by the original dialogue, which is the only dialogue.

According to the cut-away of Hedorah in Kurosaki Shuppan's "Oru Kaiju Sashin Zukan" (1971) -- a book authorized by Toho -- the area that is indicated where the Hedrium "organs" are, is not in the eyes, but in the middle of the smog monster's body (about where the intestines are in a human body). While Hedrium flows throughout the creature's body (it's the creature's lifeforce and power source), it's central location, or organs, are not located in the eyes.

Also, according to Hobby Japan's "The Pictorial Book of Godzilla 2" (1995), there is a photo of Godzilla holding the two spheres, with the caption saying that this is the main lifeforce contained in Hedorah, and then it says "Me-dewa nai" (these are not the eyes). This is on page 127, lower right corner.

Another book identifies Hedrium being created in organs akin to the human liver ("kanzou" in Japanese).

And so on...

[The Giant Pacific Octopus]

[el-brazo]

@angilas:

> don't forget Godzilla pokes out Hedorah's eye anyway when theyre
> fighting, so these dont necessarily have to be them.

Yes, I know this, but since it was mentioned in several previous postings I didn't want to repeat it. In my posting to OtiGoji I just tried to find a possible answer to the question why the doctor examines of all things an eyeball :dunno: of the tadpole.

@OtiGoji:

> I'm tempted to say "You're losing your vision" [...]

Please don't worry about my vision.

@August:

Did the books you mentioned say anything about how the second Hedorah appeared?

[StarhunterNebulaM]

My friends. They are not the eyes. And here is why. 1st, Hedorah's eyes are red. With black irises. 2nd, what sence would it make for Godzilla to pull out 2 eyeballs and use the electricity to turn them to ash? So they are Hedrium speres

[el-brazo]

@StarhunterNebulaM:

> My friends. They are not the eyes. And here is why. 1st, Hedorah's
> eyes are red. With black irises.

:clap:

[August]

I'm not up on my tadpole biology, but perhaps he examined the eyes because they were the only complex organs fully developed at that stage... "After all, a science fiction monster?"

Also in "Gojira 1954-1999 Chozenshu" (Shogakukan, 1999) mentions this... On page 141, it says, "the invincible lifeform [Hedorah]'s only physical weakness is it's liver [where the Hedrium is produced]."

El Brazo, it says in one of the books I looked up, that the smaller Hedorah was grown inside the larger Hedorah, sprung to life during exposure to the electrodes -- and exited the body. I'll look for the book again, and the exact quote.

[The Giant Pacific Octopus]

El Brazo, it says in one of the books I looked up, that the smaller Hedorah was grown inside the larger Hedorah, sprung to life during exposure to the electrodes -- and exited the body. I'll look for the book again, and the exact quote.



That means the Hedorah that fled was a spawn right?

So let's clarify the ending.

1. Godzilla dries out Hedorah with the elctrodes
2. Godzilla rips out his power source organs (Hedrium spheres) and dries them out into powder.
3. Hedorah's spawn flees the dried husk of the dead Hedorah.
4. Godzilla drags him back and dries him out with the electrodes.
5. Godzilla rips out his heart
6. Godzilla rips apart the dried husks of the Hedorahs.
7. Godzilla dries out the chunks of dried husk leaving nothing but powdered carbon.
8. Godzilla heads back to Monster Island to heal from his wounds.


Is this right?

[Sanchan]

[Tiny Gigan]

[August]

[Goji66]

[paladin]

[paladin]

[paladin]

[paladin]

[August]

Several Japanese texts say that the Hedrium is generated in what would be Hedorah's liver... So, that ends that. Obviously, the eyes don't have it, since they they are red (one was smooshed by Godzilla), and the Big G pulls out two perfect white spheres... :