TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby John Schuermann » Wed May 21, 2014 11:23 am

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby John Schuermann » Wed May 21, 2014 11:27 am

Interesting this tidbit from Edwards as well:

There was also input from writer/director Frank Darabont, who gave a pass on the script "about two or three months before we started filming", according to Edwards. "A lot of his work remains in the film, but a big part of it is when the doors close on Juliette Binoche; this whole idea that there’s a gateway or a check point they have to get through, and that it would close, and you would see her die, and we’d have that very emotional moment. That was his biggest contribution. It’s the emotional peak of the film, potentially."

That explains why that whole sequence seemed to come from another movie. It was arresting visually and emotionally, and heartbreaking. Maybe he can let Darabont write the next script solo :)
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby MekaGojira3k » Wed May 21, 2014 12:00 pm

It did come from another movie. Wrath of Khan el-oh-el.

Although I do understand there was little point in keeping Joe Brody, as he was, in the script. Still didn't think Ford was awful, so I'm alright with it.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby jrichreturns » Wed May 21, 2014 1:14 pm

I think from a few pages ago, that if these creatures feed on radiation that they would be radioactive in general so they may predate on each other, not jsut try to kill each other so they could go for radiation sources. Godzilla just wants to kill the MUTOs like how lions hate/kill hyenas, however for MUTOS they are naturally Godzilla parasites, that use his nuclear body.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby jellydonut25 » Wed May 21, 2014 1:56 pm

I've seen a few people say this reminds them more of a Gamera movie than a Godzilla movie...

WHAT?

Godzilla flies by firing rockets out his ass?
Godzilla breathes blowtorch fire and/or fireballs?
Godzilla has a special bond with either a child or due to a special totem?
Godzilla gets completely incapacitated at some point in the middle of the film?
Godzilla gets slashed and bloody with skin about as strong as tissue paper?
Godzilla's hokey as crap with outer space elements and stuff that doesn't even add up to a coherent film?

This is as much as Gamera movie as 1998 is a Godzilla movie.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby Dorkzilla » Wed May 21, 2014 2:15 pm

That script made it sound as if the Halo drop/SanFran fight was supposed to take place in the day.

I do wish that they had kept the fight between Godzilla and the military in the bay was kept as well.

And Godzilla being 600 feet instead of 350.

The budget probably didn't allow for those to make it into the final film.

Also, the way they incorporated the "King of the Monsters" thing was pretty funny in the script.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby canofhumdingers » Wed May 21, 2014 2:19 pm

Eh, I felt the tone and story were more in line with a Kaneko Gamera film than a typical Godzilla movie. I also felt Godzilla's overall role and motivations felt more Heisei-Gamera-esque than anything. Especially on the first viewing.

I've since seen it a second time and didn't get as strong of a Gamera vibe, but could still see it.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby jellydonut25 » Wed May 21, 2014 2:31 pm

The tone seemed perfectly in-line with a LOT of Godzilla movies.

Gamera's a cheesy Godzilla ripoff to begin with anyway...
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby Jorzilla » Wed May 21, 2014 2:36 pm

There's a lot of people who have expressed this thought about the movie. Unless there's a mass hallucination it's not a fluke or a random, one-off opinion.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby Hybrid Gojira » Wed May 21, 2014 2:38 pm

Godzilla treks across Japan in order to specifically fight:

Gigan and KG
Megalon and KG
Titanosaurus
MechaGodzilla (74)
Biollante (responding to Biollante's call)
He specifically hunts SpaceGodzilla down

Am I missing something? This was a Godzilla movie. Yes, he's connected to the mutos, but only because he wants to kill them. He also might be the hero, but only because he is by default less of a threat since the Mutos are reproducing.

I get the similarities to Gamera, but they're a little overblown since Godzilla's behaved the same in the other movies I mentioned.
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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby MekaGojira3k » Wed May 21, 2014 3:14 pm

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby RapZiLLa54 » Wed May 21, 2014 3:23 pm

After seeing it my 4th time I can honestly say this is one of my favorite G films. While it obviously could have used more Godzilla, the scenes we get are so damn epic I can't help but grin from ear to ear each time. Easily in my top 5.

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Re: TALKBACK: Godzilla (2014) - (OBVIOUS SPOILER DISCUSSION)

Postby John Schuermann » Wed May 21, 2014 3:58 pm

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