Snowden's Water Cooler

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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby pikmintaro » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:59 pm

Ugh don't tell me they finish the script by having Godzilla jump in a Volcano bleh... well I guess it doesn't matter as long as he survives, but meh.

This will be my face if that's how it ends.

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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Ernesth100 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:52 pm

Sounds cool to me.
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Snowdenzilla » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:46 am

No to the G84 ending- I meant something else derived from that film.

No cocoon wrapping, but there's a moment evocative of Godzilla being "defeated" like in Godzilla 2000. It involves quite a famous landmark and should be pretty spectacular.

There's an element to the ending that reminds me of the conclusion to one of the Scott Cincien novels I read as a kid. I think it's just great. They figured out a way to make Godzilla a hero, but remain a force of nature and an "enemy" at the same time for a sequel. He's the Batman of the kaiju world after this- hands down.
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Snowdenzilla » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:57 am

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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Diablojira » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:54 am

Okay, Snowdenzilla, to go back to ideas from Godzilla 1984. Godzilla's first landing has him seek out a nuclear plant, pulling the reactor into an embrace and absorbing the energy. Later, after being apparently defeated, the high atmospheric burst of a Soviet nuclear warhead intercepted by an American missile causes some form of irradiated energy to revive Godzilla as he lies comatose in the wreckage of a large building. You've mentioned that in this draft an aspect of both Godzilla and the MUTOs is their natural need for radioactive energy. Godzilla's motivation for appearing at this film's beginning in 1954 was a nuclear bomb test, and he subsequently sought out ships from the US and Soviet fleets with nuclear capabilities, apparently to "feed." And if I recall, he was directly nuked again and then remained deep in the ocean until "called" by the revived MUTOs.

So, the draft also mentions that the MUTOs (perhaps just the female?) can apparently drain Godzilla of his energy (as did Megaguiras) upsetting his normal functioning thus preventing his "heat release" which could precipitate a meltdown. In this climactic San Francisco battle, it seems dramatically appropriate that Godzilla first fights the winged version of the male MUTO with their grappling moving to the Transamerica Pyramid. It would be exciting to see that building employed as a perch for the MUTO—perhaps Godzilla has wounded the male and it tries to escape from him by climbing up the structure which he then tears down to get at the beastie. However it is stage-managed in this draft and in the film, it should be spectacular (I trust the SPFX guys here). The nearby nesting female comes to her wounded mate's aid and in tandem they drain Godzilla, seemingly defeating him, perhaps having his limp body resting in the damaged structure (like G 84), or trapped under a collapsed part of it. But Godzilla must somehow use the energy from the warhead to revive, possibly preventing it from detonating or absorbing the blast (as happened with Godzilla Jr. at the end of Godzilla vs. Destoroyah). Thus by his very existence and nature he saves soldier Ford from sacrificing himself, and so empowered Godzilla destroys the MUTOs. He saves the city from a nuclear blast, destroys the threatening massive insects, and perhaps in a state of near meltdown after this battle, he must head back to the deep ocean to cool off and regain his equilibrium. He is a part of nature and in his proper environment can exist peacefully, poised as a threat. As done in several Toho films, he would remain a peril to our species' use of nuclear energy since this attracts him at times.

My copies of the Ciencin (and Cerasini) Godzilla books are in storage, so I can't check your reference.

I wonder how this script has conceived Godzilla's biology, since during the years he remained unseen in the ocean depths, before summoned by the MUTOs, does he somehow need to replenish his energy from nuclear sources that are natural? If he was attracted in the 1950s to human generated nuclear activity (bomb tests, nuclear fleet) after being nuked more than once did he have his "fill" so he remained in the deepest parts of the sea? That the MUTOs can drain his energy would seem to be a condition that would prevent any sort of meltdown overload, rather than lead to it, but that would depend on how Godzilla functions. Is any of that addressed in the draft?
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:07 am

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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Bluejira » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:12 am

A thought about the mutos luring Godzilla. Could be using pheromones instead of using audial calls. The mutos release a chemical which mimics a jiras musk in a river carries it out to the ocean and eventually attracts any that come across the scent. Like chumming for sharks.
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Hk1441 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:51 am

Snowden, I remember you saying something about the body count being in the tens of thousands. Do they ever actually describe any bodies in the script?
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Snowdenzilla » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:16 pm

I'll get to all of that at some point this weekend. It's hard replying to big, long strings like that on a mobile device.

In the meantime, vote amongst yourself on the next area for leakage. Ernest, you're in time out so no votey votey for you.

At least two new pages tonight.
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Gorjira54 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:53 pm

I vote for the airport scene
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Gojistomped » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:01 pm

Airport scene or more military battle.
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Bluejira » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:48 pm

The scene where we saw the soldiers deploying in Nanaimo or the abandoned, contaminated fishing village scene.
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Bluejira » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:27 pm

Lol....those are the two pages I don't want to see.
I like to learn the setup to the ending...glad they are releasing the Godzilla Awakening comic. Should fill in the back story nicely.
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby mrbluehair » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:42 pm

G84 and G2000

I'm thinking the Transamerica building is getting dropped on someone.

Perhaps evocative of the end of the Super-X (one of the best scenes in the series) or when Orga brought the building down on G.

Maybe the Mutos try to eat Godzilla and he blasts the "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" out of them.

I don't mind scenes that evoke other movies but they should not be the finisher, that should be somewhat unique.
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:11 pm

I'd be all for the airport and military battles.
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Ernesth100 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:43 pm

Wait I cant vote? The rage I feel right now knows no bounds. Thats just wrong Snowden.
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Snowdenzilla » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:21 am

Yep. Like I said- the airport battle is epic.

But I never said that you get to see any of it.
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby HannibalBarca » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:37 am

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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Snowdenzilla » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:38 am

But keep in mind- early draft.

I bet we get a nice big fight scene- we might see some of this incorporated, but I'll bet we get something satisfying here.
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Gorjira54 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:38 am

Didn't you say at least 2 pages...? *explodes*
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby Snowdenzilla » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:40 am

Keep in mind also that the lead up to this scene isn't just dialog. There's SO much cool stuff.
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Re: Snowden's Water Cooler

Postby pikmintaro » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:50 am

Ehhh I wouldn't mind a scene like that happening, as long as the finale of the movie is action packed and you actually see what's going on then I'm fine with it.

And it fits with what Gareth Edwards said about everything slowly building up to the huge climax.
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