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Postby kiryugoji04 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:39 pm

I don't think I give any of these movies a free pass. I think most all of the Millennium films have horrifically bland screenplays with the exception of GMK which is, yes, marred by Toho's meddling, keeping it from being as good as it really should have been. What puts them above the Heisei films is a generally stronger execution, IMO. They may have used more new ideas but they did so in an extremely boring manner and Kawakita's effectswork just got more shoddy and unpleasant to look at as the series went on. Screw the Gamera trilogy - Daicon films produced better-looking special effects in their no-budget Ultraman fanfilm in the early 80s! I mean, if that's how Toho is when they're trying their best... Conversely, the Millennium films may be poorly scripted but they're much more easy on the eyes (and in the case of the Kiryu films, damned pretty! D: ) and the pacing doesn't feel quite as yawn-inducing. Don't get me wrong, though, I would MUCH rather put in a Showa film. I rarely get the urge to watch anything past Biollante these days unless it was produced by someone other than Toho.

Momoko Kochi's role in Destoroyah is only one of that film's problems anyway. Right from the outset it's a lackluster effort! You get this great scene of Godzilla trashing Hong Kong, right? Except the composites are AWFUL because you just see everyone going about their everyday lives like nothing's happening! No one making the film cared enough to make that into the scene it should have been. It doesn't even need THAT much changed! I could make a more exciting and competent sequence than that! But even what excitement there is to be had here is lost as soon as we go to the next scene. What is it? A conference room. And everyone here is talking about this attack and the unusual new appearance of Godzilla with as much urgency as deciding if they want twelve doughnuts or thirteen. In the first five minutes, the film has already ground to a halt. And then it just got worse from there. :|

Were a movie with Megalon's PLOT released today then I would be ECSTATIC. Megalon's production values? Yeah, I would be fairly pissed. The thing about the 70s films that I've said again and again and again is that they were the product of a period where the Japanese film industry was floundering and there was no money to put into big special effects films. Toho kept making them anyway and the results are, for my money, extremely fun and creative given their limitations. Toho wouldn't have those limitations today so they'd have no excuse.

And any other Showa movie? Man, I would DIE if Toho came out with a movie as crazy and fun as Ghidrah in this day and age. The Showa films are fun and lively - full of life! - and the 90s films are NOT. They are boring, dull, and plodding to the Nth degree. At least that's how I feel when I try and sit through one. I can't. I'd rather take a nap.
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