Destroy All Planets.....2010??

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Postby JordanGLC » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:58 am

Let those who worship evil's might, beware my power...

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Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:36 am

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Postby armandv » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:23 pm

Putting the controversy into one package:

http://armandsrancho.blogspot.com/2010/ ... attle.html
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Postby August » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:51 am

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Postby August » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:39 pm

Kadokawa closed up their LA offices and went back to Japan, and they closed down their English website. That didn't stop Shout! Factory from contacting them and working out a deal for the Gamera films. So, Mr. Ray, who has been involved in films and home video productions for years, had no excuse at all.

Here's something I received on the matter from someone in the legal profession, who has a special interest in Copyright Law:

Even if [DESTROY ALL PLANETS] was public domain, GATT allowed for registrations of foreign movies that entered into the Public Domain. The Shaws and Toho re-registered a bunch of their movies during the time period they were allowed to, I can't imagine Daei didn't do the same thing.

I can't imagine Kadokawa wasting time on Fred Olen Ray, it's about 10K to even get to Federal Court in a Copyright case. The only reason Ray is getting away with this is because he's not worth the cost and effort. Retromedia used to try copyrighting old Japanese movies by adding special sound effects to them. It's the old adding a watermark trick, they'd have a copyright to the sound effects, but nothing else. You can't recopyright something in the Public Domain (barring the GATT exception).
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Postby KaijuHQ » Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:08 pm

Apparently "Mr. Milk N' Cookies" Brett Homenick enjoys promoting bootleg DVDs as long as his name is involved...

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Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:20 pm

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Postby armandv » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:32 pm

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Postby MouthForWar » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:10 pm

Kaiju Transmissions Podcast-

If It Bleeds, We Can Kill It Podcast
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Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:54 pm

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Postby armandv » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:02 pm

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Postby AVERY GUERRA » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:20 pm

I have to agree with August here. I won't no part of this 'scandal'. Some fans simply came forth wanting to know if this release was a bootleg or not while others decided to make allegations/accusations. August simply passed along some infos he had gathered and others took his details and turned it into a "breaking scoop" or "news" and a "big debate"...oooh!! Neither August nor I were asked if we could be quoted on this matter...This just blew everything out of porportion. I contacted my friend Fred on the matter to show him what was going on. Luckily Fred knows me good enough and understands that I had nothing to do with this scandal. Ofcourse he wasn't pleased with what to him came off as allegations. He responded as I qouted [with his permission] and again it was blown out of portportion. Fred is a very busy man and doesn't have time nor interest in message board debates. He only released this film because the fans have been demanding it for years. Now because we have well hyped 'official' releases many of these same fans want to bash this same release that we all have been requesting for some time because it could 'possibly' be a bootleg. It could just as possibly be a legal public domain release which the majority of us have been purchasing for years. It has NOT been proven whether this release is a bootleg or not. A lot of people just don't seem to understand the difference in Public Domain and bootleg. When a copyright is not kept up/renewed the property falls into public domain so anyone can legally take advantage of the property- legally. A bootleg is an "illegal" release.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootleg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain

We honestly don't know which this release is...We don't have copies of all of the paperwork that either Fred or Kadowaka have and it is very unlikely that they'll feel it is our business and release these documents for us to view so all anyone can do is speculate or make assumptions or false accusations but no one other than the copyright holders know the truth and they may not be sure of it until it is settled in court but in this case that is probably rather unlikely to happen at all. Copyright laws are very tricky and there are often loopholes that allow for such releases. Fred has NOT been contacted by anyone representing Kadowaka on this matter yet and as in a quote from August's legal friend; "I can't imagine Kadokawa wasting time on Fred Olen Ray, it's about 10K to even get to Federal Court in a Copyright case. The only reason Ray is getting away with this is because he's not worth the cost and effort." So there is not a legal case brewing as far as any of us know nor will there likely be...so either you'll purchase a copy to see what it has to offer in the commentary or not. Either way, can we get on with our lives now? Sheesh!
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