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Mistakes in GINO

Postby Legacy_Of_Gamera » Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:33 pm

Did any of you ever notice that GINO had so many mistakes?

Godzilla 1998 (GINO)
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Continuity: When Godzilla is killed, he is standing on a suspension bridge entangled in the newly broken wires. If the wires are broken, then the bridge wouldn't be able to support its own weight, let alone the weight of a monster of that size.


Continuity: Godzilla noticeably changes size throughout the movie. For example, he is shown lairing in a subway tunnel, but he cannot fit into the Hyde Park tunnel (taxicab scene), which is significantly larger than a subway tunnel. Also, compare the size of Godzilla's eye next to Matthew Broderick during the fish scene and Godzilla's death scene. The eye is way bigger in the latter.


Continuity: When the Mayor of New York is talking to the crowds and people can feel the ground bouncing, Godzilla is a fair bit away, but when he is stomping through the streets the people don't feel it at all - shouldn't they be thrown into the air from that proximity?


Revealing: In the shot of the wrecked tanker, one of the helicopters flies straight through the side of the tanker.


Other: At the taxi cab chase at the end, you can notice when the car is a real one and when it's CGI. Note how the real car has scratches and other things on the front of it, but the CGI car, if you look closely, has almost no imperfections, and even if it does have some, it doesn't match the real car one bit. You can see these things when the car drives off his mouth or when you see Godzilla running behind.


Continuity: Near the end of the movie there are 3 USAF planes. The lead plane shows a graphic of 4 missiles, 2 of which he launches at Madison Square Garden. Then later, and without landing, the 3 planes fire at Godzilla. 2 missiles from each plane on both passes. This means the lead plane fired 6 out of the 4 missiles.


Visible crew/equipment: After Nick (Matthew Broderick) gets into the jeep with Jean Reno you can see a reflection of someone standing right next to the vehicle as it pulls away. The reflection is in the jeep's window and is real easy to see, especially in slo-mo.


Continuity: When the missiles hit Madison Square Garden it is a massive explosion, even accounting for the explosive placed there by the French (who did not think they had enough), but when a total of 12 missiles hit Godzilla, no explosions. As the missiles had penetrated Godzilla’s skin it would hardly have been able to contain the explosion inside the body.


Revealing: When the old guy is running down the pier as Godzilla smashes through it it's very obvious that he was just cut in from a bluescreen. The water never touches him even though it gets passed him and he runs straight even though the pier shakes and bends right under his feet.


Factual error: When they load up in the HMMWV (Hummer) in the warehouse there are 6 guys. military HMMWVs only have 4 seats (very uncomfortable ones at that). Submitted by EMTurbo



Continuity: When Godzilla is chasing the taxi, the taxi crashes through a chainlink fence. As it rounds the corner shortly after going through the fence, the sign on top of the cab comes loose and is being held loosely by a wire toward the front of the cab. You can clearly see that the sign is loose, but a few shots later, the sign is attached firmly in place atop the cab.


Factual error: The guys in BDU's (camouflage) have their sleeves rolled up with the lighter colored inside material showing. They are supposed to be Army soldiers. Only the Marines roll their sleeves this way. The rest of us can roll our sleeves up but have to fold the outer layer in a way that the darker camouflage material is still showing. Submitted by EMTurbo


Factual error: When they are at the MP checkpoint trying to get past the gate in the HMMWV (Hummer) you can see an interior panel with a speaker over the driver's side window. Military Hummers don't have interior panels, much less stereos and speakers. They are totally bare necessities inside. They don't even have keyed ignition. There is an on off switch for ignition. Submitted by EMTurbo


Continuity: When the old guys snags the "big one" and realizes he needs to run his chair disappears from shot to shot. (Timecode available) Submitted by EMTurbo


Revealing: In the scene where they have the second fish trap, Godzilla runs from the army and the chasing hummers go right over footprints smoothly.


Factual error: Another CG versus physics problem: When the creature attacks the helicopters from the back, it eats one and the remaining two try to escape. However, the helicopters accelerate at least twice as fast as they would be able to in real life - they start from being still in air and they reach a circa 60kph speed in under two seconds.


Continuity: When the biologist guy has first contact with Godzilla, he signals to the soldiers that they should not shoot. How the soldiers can see from that far and in the heavy rain what his fingers are pointing is one question, the bigger problem is that when we see a close-up of the guy's fingers, there's no rain.


Continuity: During the scene right after the F-18's destroy Madison Square Garden, Godzilla goes after the taxi and Nick tells Phillipe to turn the car around. The problem is that on the street you can see that the first time they went through, Godzilla left some huge footprints and destroyed the street. When they turn around and drive up there a second time, the street is perfect. This happens again when they are stuck in the Hyde Park Tunnel and Godzilla shoves a claw into it and breaks up the road right in front of the taxi, but when Phillipe drives forward and then puts on the highbeams, the road is fine.


Continuity: The first footprint - the one Nick is standing in - is clearly smaller that those shown from the helicopter (watch the toes).


Continuity: When they are tracking the monsters movement towards the pile of fish, on a computer screen the icon representing Godzilla moves forward and in the next scene repeats over the same territory.

Other: It's difficult to spot (it's easier on DVD, but I don't have the timecode). Godzilla has just left Central Park after suspecting the trap with the fish. As he rumbles down the street, hundreds of Apache helicopters swarm in and attack. When they begin firing their cannons at Godzilla, if you look carefully, you'll see the tracer fire from one gunship overlap over another gunship. The cannon fire is heading away from the camera and getting smaller, so it should at least go through the other helicopter and disappear on the other side, but it remains superimposed on the Apache. A little special effects mistake.


Revealing: In the scene where they are climbing up from the subway tunnel into Madison Square Garden, there are lots of half-dead fish scattered around from when Godzilla was feeding. Right before they enter the arena, there is a high shot looking down on the actors, with a wiggling fish in the lower left portion of the screen. If you look closely, you can see a string attached to the fish. A crew member is obviously tugging on it from below, to make the fish move.


Other: When they are tracking Godzilla to the second pile of fish in Central Park, the tracking device says that Godzilla is moving with a speed of 175 mph. If you look at the shots before it with the soldier looking over the top of the building, it is impossible for him to walk at that speed. (Timecode available)


Other: When the lead fighter jet sends two rockets to blow up Madison Square Garden, if paused just right you can see the building blow up from the inside and there are no visible rockets hitting the roof. (It is necessary to go frame by frame.) Submitted by Sparky6640


Continuity: When Viktor and Audrey fall from the ventilation ducts, Viktor's camera goes skidding across the floor about 6 feet or so away, yet when Jean Reno comes over to step on the camera it is within a foot of where Viktor fell. Submitted by Sparky6640


Other: When the first fish trap is set up and Nick realises that the manhole covers need to come off, the first covers come off, with the pile of fish in the background about one block away. Nick then runs another 1/2 a block to a block to remove another manhole cover before Godzilla sticks his head up through the road. Taking into account Godzilla's size, we can assume he is about 3 blocks away from the fish. When the shot cuts to the computer screen in the command centre, it indicates that Godzilla is SIX blocks away from the fish.


Plot hole: How did Godzilla deposit eggs in Madison Square Garden? It's obviously much too small for her to fit in. Almost all of the eggs are in the central dome, yet when our heroes are running around there is never any indication of a large hole Godzilla could reach through to place them inside. Submitted by Phoenix



Factual error: The ship shown in the film is a dry-bulk carrier, not a fishing vessel.


Continuity: When Godzilla's foot comes down on the cameraman, it raises up in the very next shot without the other foot behind it moving forward. In the shot after that, with the cameraman's point of view, the other foot is gone.


Factual error: The giant footprints in the movie are obviously dug out of the ground. If they were real, the ground would be heavy compressed in a footfrint shape. These look like they were dug with a foot-shaped shovel.


Continuity: When Nick is getting the worms, he walks from the back of the van. When the helicopter lands the shot over Nick's shoulder shows the van is turned around and face the way he came.


Revealing: When the two soldiers are in the subway tunnel just before Godzilla's eye opens at the end of the tunnel, check out the beams on the flashlights. When the flashlights shine on the walls of the tunnel, they are normal. When they shine FURTHER AWAY onto Godzilla, the light beams get narrower and more laser-like. The circle the light makes on a surface loses the dark circle in the centre when it shines on Godzilla too.


Factual error: The Apache gunship helicopters seen in the film have three weapons pylons under each wing. In real life, Apaches have only two pylons under each wing. It's possible the makers of the film gave them the extra pylons to make them look "cooler".


Audio problem: Before Victor tells his new plan to Audrey, he talks to another woman in a crowded room which is full of people talking on the phone and there is also Jamiroquai's featured song coming from somewhere quite loud. Still, Victor and the woman are able to converse quite well without having to change their low voice level, even when they are five or six meters from each other.


The footage of the Nuclear Explosions are actually those of the US "Crossroads" Program during 1946-1953. Ironically enough, it was done in the South Pacific. [I can not see how this is a mistake. All this goes to show is that Godzilla is a result of years of nuclear radiation and several test bombings, instead of being mutated by a single atomic blast.] Corrected by Twotall
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Postby ilovebaragon » Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:20 pm

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Postby BrianBuck » Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:54 pm

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Postby kiryugoji04 » Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:47 pm

Well that didn't point out one of the worst mistakes: Ship sinks in the Pacific, washes ashore in the Carribean... :?
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Postby MouthForWar » Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:43 pm

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Postby Kaijufan » Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:46 pm

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Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:49 pm

Some of these are a bit nitpicky as nobody would notice EVER unless pointed out, but some are just the result of laziness...but poor film making is about par for the course with devlin/emmerich
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Postby Foxtrot X-Ray » Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:12 pm

Quite a list of flubs. Highly entertaining. :)

Devlin himself said that there were quite a few technical errors they would have been able to chase down & fix if they'd had a bit more time..
Wonder how many of those listed would have gotten corrected if they had the time.

As I recall, all the copies of the film were Fed Exed to their theaters on the 19th, still warm from their final printing... They worked on the thing until literally the last Minute.
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:17 pm

Full details on the rushedness of the release of GINO'98 can be found .
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Postby jellydonut25 » Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:07 pm

there's quite a few flubs in GINO but honestly...look at just one quick thing in Gvs.Biollante...

"we're all out of missiles"
"fire mirror set in"
[shot on top of Super X2] ----are those MISSILES i see??

GINO just didnt live up to the hype plain and simple, and it's not just the design of the monster as almost NOBODY complains that he appears in Final Wars...because he actually wreaks a little havoc...

the design is secondary, the 'flaws' in FX and story tertiary and fans would've accepted it much better if the SPIRIT was the same...
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Postby Masterz1337 » Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:19 pm

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Postby Foxtrot X-Ray » Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:13 pm

"Names in the new order were Totem signs, no longer mere markers for a face.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:27 pm

well, i did say that it wasnt just the design, implying it was somewhat, but that's not all....


im sure if GINO woulda kicked ass, fans wouldn't unilaterally despise it as much as we do...

if he came out, wreaked some havoc, attacked the army, wrangled the subs, and breathed some radioactive fire, without being a wuss about it...he woulda been given props and yeah, there would be "that's not godzilla, cuz it doesn't look like him" but people woulda accepted it much more than they do...
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Postby Foxtrot X-Ray » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:34 pm

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