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Postby Temjin » Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:45 am

The review sounded brilliant....Simply brilliant.

I really want to see this movie now because the way the author describes it sounds interesting and probably a film anybody will enjoy....

It's starting to sound like Ryuhei Kitamura knew what he was doing and tailored it specifically for non godzilla fans.

Maybe this means that a "real" tribute film may not be far behind.....
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Postby Robert Saint John » Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:12 pm

I think that most people who have seen the film, whether or not they liked it, would agree that Godzilla and the monsters are just a plot device in this particular story. But that's not unprecedented in a Godzilla film.
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Postby And Still They Come » Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:02 pm

awesome review! This got me more excited for GFW than others have, because it's giving a 50/50 good/bad side to stuff, sounds awesome.


Really need to see this film now!


And i can't wait to hear don frye's one liners, oh god...the dudes voice is so monotone,it'll be funny no matter what he says.
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Postby ryuuseipro » Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:46 am

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Postby cybot sawaguchi » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:20 pm

Why do you have to be an apologist if you like the film? I enjoyed the elements some people disliked. I had fun. It doesn't make me an apologist, less of a "frickin" fan or anything.

The film may be "bad" to some - and "good" to others. What I find odd is that some don't seem to be able to allow for positive reviews or opinions to be voiced without stout re-affirmation of their negative take.

Here's an idea: People who liked it are right. People who hated it are right. Nobody is wrong, because whether a film is enjoyable or not is PURELY RELATIVE to the individual. I know that when DAWN OF THE DEAD was released many moons ago, many critics and fans of NotLD panned it and many found it to be silly and sloppy. Today, it's often referred to by (again) critics and fans as the ultimate zombie film and in some circles, the ultimate horror film. The difference is, I think the overall critical (non-fanboy) view of GFW is fairly positive.

What people need to be taking with a grain of salt around here are the angry, fanboy comments. When you start noticing the same individual(s) posting/insulting/deconstructing GFW day after day after day, you have to figure there's an axe being ground about this film's intended approach (as opposed to its unintentional flaws). I mean come on, guys. Godzilla, remember? Since when did we become effects and soundtrack connoisseurs? ;)
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Postby obert22 » Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:54 am

I saw it three times in Japan and I enjoyed it a lot. I love the 70's films and this has a strong hint of 70's Godzilla films in it. Yes there are some silly parts but to me it was pure fun. I walked out each time with a smile on my face. Can't ask for much more than that.
I think some of the human fights scenes were a little long. Don Frye had a couple bad lines but there were some suprising good ones as well so not bad overall. Not as bad as some were making it out to be. Not my favorite Godzilla movie but easily not the worst either. If I get over my jet lag maybe I'll get a more detailed review post in the review thread.

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Postby Hajime Kudo » Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:46 am

I just saw it for the third time. After better-than-expected-first time and worst-Godzilla-movie-ever second time, this time it was O.K. again.

The fact that I'am not a native English speaker made me enjoy the original English lines of some actors, like at the first showing at the Japan premiere, which sound easily better to my ears than the crappy Anime-overdubbing in Japanese for the normal showings. They show the premiere version at 6.40 every day at the Toho cinema at Ginza (same like premiere).

I paid much attention to the Monsters. The Kaiju scenes are just great, even though they are way too short. The girls were great again - great legs :wink:
While the human scenes were O.K. when they talked, I had enough time while they were fighting (man to man - the other action scenes were better) to think about my shopping list for the next few weeks.

There were some kids in the not-so-crowded theater. One slept through almost the whole movie. I can understand why.
The begining is stunning. Godzilla fighting the Showa Goten combined with the powerful "Kaiju intruduction theme" used in the TV special easily made me get goosebumps (this one might be a major grammatical error). Then as soon as the M-force is introduced it's getting boring.
However like I said before, the monster scenes were just great (some bad FX aside) and now I am actually looking forward to see these scenes again while skipping the human crap chapters.
Godzilla is just "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" powerful. He just kicks ass! Somehow before I didn't like Godzilla in Final Wars, because he has so few screentime, but when I paid attention the these scenes in particular, while switching my brain to "standby-mode" during the human crap, it was O.K.
When Godzilla is freed from his icey prison by some missiles shot off by the new Goten while Gigan is around, about to finish the Battleship off,
Godzilla full of rage shoots his heat ray at the cyborg (like in Terror of MechaGodzilla when he's back from under ground). After the short battle he goes on to the Goten - totally pissed and crushed everything on his way to Tokyo.
-Kumonga looks too great and it is just sad that you see it only some 2 minutes on screen in the whole movie.
-CG Manda looks as fake as those silly CG creatures in the Mortal Kombat movies - NG
-hearing Anguirus cry again almost made myself cry - nostalgia overload!
-Mynia is just silly and the scenes with him disturb the otherwise good flow of the movie while the monsters are raging in the world.
-Gigan is just cool. Too few screentime though. The flying model looks like crap - even worse than in the 70ties
-Mothra looks very "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" except in one close up shot. The marionette is not handled well. CG looks worse than in GMK and SOS.
-Rodan is impressive at night and lacks screentime at daytime in the foight against Godzilla
-King Caesar looks just silly. I like the monster but in GFW he looks too cheap
-Kamakiras is O.K. but his screentime should have been devoted to Kumonga or any other monter more interesting
-Ebirah is good. Looks better in the movie than on pics.
-Hedorah - why is he in the movie? Just odd...
-GINO is nice and fun to see. The fight with SUM41 is a standout thought way too short
-Monster X looks too much like man-in-suit. Not only the "2nd skin" suit, but also the movements
-Kaiser Ghidorah looks evil and impressive. Better than Monster X. A worthy opponent for the 50th. But it is finished too easily when G has recovered.

There is actually a rock version of Emerson's video game track during the M-Force X Ebirah fight which is very cool like the whole scene. But like I said before, the cheap version is used during the start of the Goten and during the "Death Star" sequence. But it fit's well. Some of the other music sucks fatally - i.e. the cheap techno music.

The way they show Godzilla as an unstoppable furious beast is great.

If the monster scenes weren't so short and the human fight weren't so boring I could accept GFW as the 50th. But in this state I cannot.
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