GODZILLA: King of the Monsters (5-31-19 -NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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Postby JordanGLC » Wed May 15, 2019 12:12 am

I'm assuming a lot of us will be watching this multiple times in the theater. I'm going to try to see it in as many different ways as possible. To that end, I have Cinemark XD 3D tickets for 5/30 and IMAX tickets for 6/1. If it's still showing in Screen X the following weekend I'm going to travel to the East Bay to see it that way too. Might even see it in those 4D motion seats.

FYI if you're wanting to see it in IMAX better do so the first week as Dark Phoenix will be replacing it.
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Postby GFan » Wed May 15, 2019 10:14 am

Jinzo Ningen wrote:Best non-spoiler review that I've seen so far LOL...

Robert Meyer Burnett:
"#GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters felt like my eight year old inner child snorted a Tony Montana-sized mountain of cocaine. I loved it 3000."


I have a strong feeling that's going to be my review as well. :lol:

I saw G'14 around 8 times in theaters, GKotM looks like it'll be better suited for multiple viewings. I'm shooting for 10 screenings. :D
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Postby JordanGLC » Wed May 15, 2019 9:43 pm

GFan wrote:I'm shooting for 10 screenings. :D

Challenge accepted! :D
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Postby msweets13 » Wed May 15, 2019 11:07 pm

I apologize in advance if there's another thread somewhere that I haven't seen, but has anyone read Godzilla Aftershock, the graphic novel prequel? Is it any good or spoiler-y? Thinking about buying but don't want to if it has spoiler potential or as atrocious as the G'14 prequel one was (can't remember the title off the top of my head)
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Postby lhb412 » Wed May 15, 2019 11:48 pm

^Honestly, I almost forgot about that! I know that Amazon is caring special variant version with an Arthur Adams cover. I better get on that!
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Postby GFan » Thu May 16, 2019 12:04 pm

msweets13 wrote:I apologize in advance if there's another thread somewhere that I haven't seen, but has anyone read Godzilla Aftershock, the graphic novel prequel? Is it any good or spoiler-y? Thinking about buying but don't want to if it has spoiler potential or as atrocious as the G'14 prequel one was (can't remember the title off the top of my head)


I read the G'14 prequel once and immediately sold it (the Pacific Rim one was pretty crappy too) but I still feel obligated to buy Aftershock... :lol:
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Postby jellydonut25 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:29 pm

Unofficial "review" from the guy who runs the Maser Patrol blog says it's pretty much just forgettable. He says it has some decent ideas but the art is UGLY.
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Postby msweets13 » Thu May 16, 2019 2:29 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:Unofficial "review" from the guy who runs the Maser Patrol blog says it's pretty much just forgettable. He says it has some decent ideas but the art is UGLY.


Thanks for saving me $17. The cover is beautiful. Made me think it might be good. I shall ignore and put my money in the art of Godzilla KOTM instead.
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Postby Jinzo Ningen » Thu May 16, 2019 7:47 pm

Don't if anyone's read this or not but I thought I;d post the link here. A very interesting interview with G'19 production designer Scott Chambliss. Nothing spoilery... and the concept art sprinkled throughout is To. Die. For.

https://film.avclub.com/production-designer-scott-chambliss-on-how-godzilla-ki-1834679976
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Postby Gargantuan Gargantua » Fri May 17, 2019 7:03 pm

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LOL. He can't do an ad if his life depended on it. What a sincere review from imaqtpie!! No spoilers. Just funny watching a caveman and his mannerisms.
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Postby emeGoji » Fri May 17, 2019 11:00 pm

Got free tickets to an early screening this Wednesday. Now I’m hyped.
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Postby Russzilla » Fri May 17, 2019 11:52 pm

I don’t know about y’all in the rest of the country, but we’re 2 weeks away from G: KOTM being released and I could swear I’m not seeing much advertisement coverage of it at all, and that worries me.
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Postby lhb412 » Sat May 18, 2019 12:56 am

^ I couldn't disagree more! Several different trailers being shown in front of the huge movies of the past few months, TV ad campaigns targeting major sporting events, trailers airing as paid promotion before YouTube videos, tons of trailers and TV spots created, and that's not even counting all the social media stuff. The trick, for me at least, has been trying to avoid all this stuff!

If the movie is an enormous bomb I won't lay any of the blame on Warner Brothers marketing. I'm tremendously impressed with their canvassing.
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Postby Jinzo Ningen » Sat May 18, 2019 6:59 am

Agreed. WB's marketing for this film has been all over the place. Just saw an ad yesterday for the film on a TV in our breakroom at work. It's out there. If folks don't turn up... not much WB can do that they haven't already done, honestly. :?
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Postby Russzilla » Sat May 18, 2019 6:21 pm

Ok, I should probably change that, I basically mean TV commercials primarily. Just seems they’re few and far between. I don’t know, it may be just me.
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Postby mrbluehair » Sun May 19, 2019 1:42 am

The TV marketing is in places where they feel the largest audience will be. I’ve seen a few but we watch a lot of home improvement "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" because that is our area of business so no Godzilla.
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Re: GODZILLA: King of the Box Office (5-31-19)

Postby mr.negativity » Sun May 19, 2019 11:28 am

mr.negativity wrote:THR 5/9/2019:
Box Office: 'Godzilla' Tracking for $50M Debut, 'Rocketman' to Blast Off With $25M


THR MAY 16, 2019:
Box Office: 'Dark Phoenix' Tracking for $50M Bow
Mia Galuppo wrote:According to early estimates, the superhero installment is expected to have one of the lowest openings of any X-Men film.

Dark Phoenix is finally making her way to the multiplex.

The long delayed X-Men project is tracking for an opening weekend in the $50 million range, according to those with access to early box office surveys.

The big-budget superhero movie is tracking lower than other recent entries in the X-Men universe. Opening over Memorial Day weekend in 2014, X-Men: Days of Future Past had a massive $90.8 million bow, with a total holiday weekend box office of $110.5 million (unadjusted for inflation). Also opening over Memorial Day, 2016's X-Men: Apocalypse earned $65.7 in its first three-day weekend in theaters and a total of $79.8 million for the long weekend.

Longtime X-Men writer and producer Simon Kinberg makes his directorial debut with the franchise installment that sees Jean Grey (Sophie Turner) turn into her evolved form, with newfound powers that tear the team apart. Dark Phoenix will see the return of team members like Beast (Nicholas Hoult), Quicksilver (Evan Peters), Magneto (Michael Fassbender), Professor X (James McAvoy) and Mystique (Jennifer Lawrence).

The superhero feature was originally slated for a Nov. 2018 bow before undergoing reshoots and being shifted initially to Feb. 14, 2019 before finally moving to June 7.

Dark Phoenix is opening without the benefit of a holiday weekend release and early estimates are likely to increase as Fox/Disney makes a final marketing push. But, according to current estimates, the movie is tracking to have one of the lowest debuts for a X-Men film, with 2013's Wolverine currently coming in at the lowest with a $53.1 opening weekend.


The Guardian May 26, 2014:
X-Men makes Godzilla look like a lounging lizard at US box office
Jeremy Kay wrote:Chronology usually dictates who will win a superhero box-office slugfest. Thus the summer showdown between adamantium claws and a giant lizard's pearly whites was always likely to see the X-Men emerge victorious, simply because Fox's mighty mutants were scheduled to open one week after Godzilla went on its rampage.

And so, on the occasion of Memorial Day weekend, the vaguely Bond-sounding X-Men: Days of Future Past, starring the by-now-familiar ensemble, smacked Godzilla into second place and opened top on an estimated $90.7m (£53.8m). Not as impressive as the massive $171m day-and-date international launch that set a new record weekend for Fox International, the US debut produced the sixth biggest Memorial Day weekend launch, leagues behind leader Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End from 2007 on $139.8m. It was also the second highest debut in the seven-strong X-Men franchise (including Wolverine spin-offs) behind X-Men: The Last Stand, which managed an unadjusted $102.8m back in May 2006. The fourth biggest launch of 2014 so far behind Captain America: The Winter Soldier on $95m, the aforementioned Godzilla on $93.2m and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 on $91.6m also ranks as the 17th biggest May debut of all time. The last bit is a meaningless stat that surely not even Fox will be trumpeting this week, but we thought you should know.

And on the subject of profitability or otherwise, we turn last but by no means least to Godzilla. The movie hails from Warner Bros and Legendary Pictures and they must be thankful for the international markets. After two sessions the marauding beast has racked up $167m outside North America, compared to $149m within domestic borders. That figure alone would have made things look shaky given the stated $160m production cost (yadda yadda yadda), but the global running total of $315.4m looks to be on firmer ground. This might not turn out to be the ideal way for Warner Bros to wind down its longtime alliance with Legendary after an illustrious association that has produced true monsters such as the Dark Knight and Hangover franchises, but all things must pass. Legendary has skipped off to make its new home at Universal, but still has one final release to go with Warner Bros (and Paramount) in the form of Christopher Nolan's November release, Interstellar.
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Postby mr.negativity » Sun May 19, 2019 12:44 pm

O.Supreme wrote:Has anyone heard any news about early screenings? WB (and other studios) have been doing this more and more, and KotM would probably be one of the few cases I would spring a little extra $$ to see an advance screening of if it made itself available.

https://advancescreenings.com/movie/god ... e_monsters
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Postby lhb412 » Mon May 20, 2019 12:43 am

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This fan made this Godzilla suit and someone in charge noticed and they ended up using it at the premiere! How awesome is that? I think she was able to attend the premiere, too - from what I see on her social media.

We hear all these stories about bad fandom these days, and with good reason, but it's always good to point out instances of fans being really cool!
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Postby lhb412 » Wed May 22, 2019 4:27 pm

There's been a ton of cool posters, official and fan made, but this Chinese one takes the cake:

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Postby jellydonut25 » Thu May 23, 2019 1:38 am

If you're anything like me, and I know I am, you grew up on Godzilla. And if you're a little more like me, you grew up watching mostly the 60s and 70s Godzilla. Whether it was from what aired on TBS when I was quite young and managed to tape despite missing the first minute or two or one of my parents flicking the channels in the middle of my recording because they forgot I was taping something, or actual purchased VHS tapes from the local department store, or the movies that aired on MonsterVision on TNT when I was in my tweens and teens, the 60s and 70s monster-mash Godzilla movies were always the preferred fare of both those selling and those buying kaiju products. Colorful, with good music, and packed to the gills with men in rubber suits slapping each other silly, the Jun Fukuda Godzilla movies are the comfort food of kaiju eiga. If you're further like me, you hit a point where these movies seemed a little TOO silly and embarrassing for you. Sure, they were fun, but oh man that melodrama and those effects, right? I mean, could someone try to do this seriously please and maybe give it a budget?
If you're still further like me, and now you're just starting to creep me out, you probably grew out of THAT, and have come to just embrace the campy Godzilla with open, loving arms as part of the franchise's rich history.

Michael Dougherty is apparently like me enough to not creep me out. He never grew out of that.

Godzilla: King of the Monsters is the Godzilla movie you'd get if you handed the reigns to the Godzilla franchise to a kid with a big imagination....and also if you gave him $200 million and a bucket of cocaine. Dougherty has made the highest-budgeted 70s Godzilla movie of all-time. He's taken it a tad more seriously than those movies, though it still has a very (American) sense of fun and campy charm, and he's glitzed it up and given it a base level of quality those films never had a CHANCE to have, but Godzilla: King of the Monsters is the movie I think we'd have gotten if you mixed the insanity of Jun Fukuda with the earnest optimism of Ishiro Honda, with a dash of mid-late 90s Spielberg and his propensity to overdo the spectacle and action.

If that's all enough for you, then stop here. I won't even get into anything I'd even remotely consider spoilery, yet, but some people just want a person to say "Was it good or bad or what?" and so, there you have it: it's crazy and fun.

If you're still here, let's talk a little about the bad stuff first, to get it out there and out of the way.
I wouldn't consider any of the below spoilers AT ALL, but some people kinda sorta MIGHT? I dunno, I don't want to spoil it for anyone, so I'll be careful here.
Spoiler Below:
Charles Dance sucks here. I don't want to draw a direct comparison to Bryan Cranston in the 2014 movie, because his character lasts for more than 15 minutes, but they still managed to wrangle an EXCELLENT actor, and proceeded to hand him about 10 lines and have him do nothing. It's unfortunate, and even more so because he's kind of the film's main antagonist but we don't really spend any time getting to interact with or know him at all. He's more Red Bamboo or Seatopian Agent and less Controller of Planet X or Black Hole Green Ape alien. That's unfortunate because the movies are always at their most fun when the human action is up to par with the kaiju action, and here's there's a noticeable gap between the two because there's not much of a human antagonist.
Also, there's a major plot device that hits a real high level of stupid in terms of the way it's treated towards the end of the movie. It's difficult to discuss without getting into spoilers, but suffice to say, I thought maybe I missed something because a character's plan for thwarting Charles Dance is just...way too easy.
Finally, and for some this might not be a complaint: this movie is BREAKNECK. While the 2014 film took its time to build layers to the plot and stack them up, and was willing to tell its story over the course of a lot of days and even years, this movie shoots out like a nuclear warhead and NEVER stops. It sort of does for one little moment, which in a weird way wound up being one of my favorite moments, to just sort of catch my damn breath and soak things in for a second before being thrust back into the thick of it, but you only clutch at little gasps of air in between the breakneck pacing and action.

But those are the bad things, and one of them is that it's "too fun."

Godzilla: King of the Monsters does some stuff, specifically emotional stuff, that the 2014 film absolutely flubbed. I can't say it absolutely NAILS that element, but while the 2014 movie has maybe one element of genuine human drama, this has a few, and more than one that actually feels like it works. One moment in particular, felt rather Honda-ian, as Chinese, Japanese, and American characters all shared a genuine emotional beat together. In a movie where the monsters are gonna throw down, and you KNOW they're gonna, getting these tiny little pauses of emotion and the Honda-ian notion of a multinational group working together may have been almost (not really, but almost) more enjoyable for me than seeing what essentially amounts to the 1970s Godzilla being committed to screen with a huge budget.
Yes friends, if you like your Godzilla with personality and actually wearing that personality on his sleeve in the heat of battle, you'll love the Godzilla and Ghidorah parts especially in this movie. These two are the show-stoppers and they are more than up to the task, bringing the fire (literally) and (also literally) electrifying the film. Each one gets several moments to react to the other in such a way that this is the most personality I've seen from Godzilla since probably Terror of Mechagodzilla and as far as one of his enemies? I don't know...maybe Megaguirus and her smile? That might bring back bad memories for some, but I'm just trying to be objective.
My FAVORITE thing about Godzilla King of the Monsters though is the world-building. Seriously, I'd spend time watching at least an entire movie of just a day in the life of this universe. Just people sitting around studying the kaiju, talking about them, thinking about how to live and coexist with them, the ramifications of their appearances, the technological advancements we've made, the pros and cons...it's all so cool, and never intrusive enough to get in the way of the actual story or thrust (unlike say, the anime, which has that stuff thrust to the forefront in sacrifice of anything interesting to say with a story or characters). Dougherty really takes the ball Edwards was somewhat (reluctantly) toying with and just RUNS with it. We've got secret bases, communicate-with-kaiju devices, advanced weaponry, new planes and vehicles....unlike Gareth Edwards' vision of "What would happen in the real-world of kaiju appeared?" Dougherty is asking "What kind of world would it have to be for kaiju to appear in it?"

The music is improved from the 2014 film, though I'd want to listen to that score a little bit to see if it's as improved as I was thinking while watching it, or if that's just me getting tricked by the nostalgia feels of hearing Ifukube music.

So, that all said, where does the movie fall? It's probably too early to tell. I always have difficulty really accurately rating a movie after just one viewing, and this is no different. I could see it sidling up a little bit on rewatches as I wade through the overwhelming elements and into more familiarity, or down as I potentially start to feel less drawn-in by the world building and more worn-out by some of the mediocre dialogue (and that's not just corny humor, there's some real non-sequitur stuff happening with the dialogue at times).
What I do know is this: while I may not have been particularly jones-ing for a 70s Godzilla movie on a $200 million budget with enough cocaine to make Godzilla himself spazz out like a child who's just eaten the entire truckload of cotton candy, Michael Dougherty does THAT to its very best. In particular, he manages to do something that Toho hasn't figured out how to do: he provides a ton of satisfying kaiju action and fighting without (very often) resorting to WWE-style punching and insane camp to provide those visceral thrills. There's a LITTLE of it, mostly in how the kaiju's personalities reveal themselves while they're fighting, but it's never distracting (hell I wonder if most people will even pick up on those moments), and it just adds to the experience to me.

One thing you cannot doubt: Michael Dougherty is a fan, through and through and through.





If you're STILL here, I just wanna touch on a couple slightly more spoiler-y things.
It's not SPECIFIC stuff, but I just wanted to warn you, because everyone's thresholds are different.

Spoiler Below:
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Last chance.
Now.
I'm doing it.

I just wanna say, this is basically Godzilla vs King Ghidorah, also featuring Rodan and Mothra. The latter two are cool, for me, and fans, and get their chances to shine, but if you walk in not knowing a Mothra from a Manda or a Rodan from a Mamagon, you still won't really know or care why anyone knows or cares about Mothra or Rodan. They're side pieces.
Also, Ghidorah is still an alien. That is REALLY DAMN COOL. I needed to call that out because people doubted it would be the case and I was just like "Why not? Just mention it in a throwaway line" and that's exactly what they did.
Oh and stick around for that ending because if the movie continues down the path of the post-credits stinger...."OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!"'s about to get like, 900% more insane than I ever thought it would in this rendition of the franchise.
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Postby GFan » Thu May 23, 2019 8:14 am

ARGHHH, only one week to go!!! I'm both happy for, and jealous of, those getting to go to early screenings!

A 70's Godzilla film with a $200 million budget is exactly what I want to see. My inner child is preparing a very large pile of cocaine for this very special occasion.
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Postby Gwangi » Thu May 23, 2019 9:41 am

All I want to know Jelly, is how the hell did you get an early screening? Are you part of some Critics Association? Were they having a public early viewing in your home town? Or did you bribe your way in?! :mrgreen:
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Postby jellydonut25 » Thu May 23, 2019 9:52 am

Gwangi wrote:All I want to know Jelly, is how the hell did you get an early screening? Are you part of some Critics Association? Were they having a public early viewing in your home town? Or did you bribe your way in?! :mrgreen:

A little of B and C.

They had a screening, it was "supposed" to be kind of a private screening, but they accidentally listed the tickets for sale online. I bought a ticket because OBVIOUSLY, and when I went they were like "Oh...this was a mistake, here's your money back," and I was like "Keep the money, let me in." And after some back and forth, I was allowed to sit in a wheelchair space, and then there was an open seat right next to me when the show started and I just sat there and nobody ever showed up to sit there.
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Postby mrbluehair » Thu May 23, 2019 1:13 pm

Jelly, were Godzilla’s gills a distraction? How did his feet look?
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