Terminator: Salvation

[Jon Leo]

[kiryugoji04]

[MouthForWar]

Well to steer this thread back on course after another one of Kain's random bouts of insanity:

I just caught the midnight screening of Terminator Salvation. Me and my friends were bored and decided to check it out and... I liked it! Maybe it was my lowered expectations, but I really had a good time with this. It beats the heck out of T3 by a mile. It has its problems, but the hyperbolic negative reviews by the likes of Harry "I give anything a good review as long as I get free merch and a set visit" Knowles have be baffled. There is nothing in this movie that warrants such scathing reviews... granted there is a lot to dislike here, but at its worst, I found the movie to just be kinda generic.

Is the plot thin? Yes? Does it have a few holes? Yes, but nothing too glaring. Are there cliches? Yes. Are there cheesy moments? Yes, but this is a Terminator movie, and even the most serious one (the first film) has its fair share of cheese. Do characters often have nothing to do until the next big action scene? Yes. But despite these faults, I thought it was good fun. Its everything that movies like Transformers and Wolverine wanted to be.

The biggest problem I had with it was that it was obviously cut down. I know there were things cut to get it its PG-13 rating, but there was a lot (especially in the first half) that just goes by so fast, while the second half is more focused. It seemed kinda like a rough cut. It just felt REALLY lopsided. The first half rushes through plot point after plot point, while the second serves the plot a bit better. Heck, Christian Bale is barely in it until the last 50 minutes or so. You can tell they had more in the script, but it was cut in the editing room, much to the film's expense. If the movie gave itself a bit more time to breathe, it would have been MUCH better, so hopefully we'll get some kind of Unrated Director's Cut on DVD.

All in all, I'm glad I didn't listen to all the negative reviews. Is it as good as the first 2? Not at all. But its much better than T3 and it was a really fun movie for me. Seeing the great and underrated Michael Ironside on the big screen again was also a treat. Seeing "In Loving Memory of Stan Winston" as the first credit also brought a big smile to my face.

So the verdict: Its a pretty generic action flick, but its a great time. Don't expect something earth shattering like T1 and T2.

SPOILERS-(highlight) and the Arnold comeback was also sweet, even though it used a lot of motion capture and CGI "de-aging".

[RapZiLLa54]

Just got back from the midnight showing and I'm nothing but disappointed... Boring and very predictable story that opens up time travel plot holes like crazy but with time travel its always a plot hole and this movie really exploits it. Movie is dedicated to Stan Winston yet everything in the movie is CGI. It boggles my mind how T2 a movie 18 years old had a more "real" look to it.

[MouthForWar]

[jellydonut25]

[Dr Kain]

[Brick Side]

[RapZiLLa54]

[TheMaster]

[kiryugoji04]

[Elliot Gay]

[TheMaster]

[jellydonut25]

[kiryugoji04]

[INVINCIBLE HASTUR]

Whatever. I'm not going to even read Fatboys review. You guys are the ones that I listen to, so since some of you said it's awesome then that's good news caus' I'm really, really excited for it. I'll be there Saturday.

[TheMaster]

^ Good deal Hastur. Cuz then whether you like it or not will more be based on your opinion than a prejudice that might not be accurate!

[king_ghidorah]

[MouthForWar]

[Andrew Nguyen]

[INVINCIBLE HASTUR]

[ultrazilla2000]

[quote="MouthForWar"
What the heck? Who sends their wife into a 7-11 to get a Terminator slurpee cup? And then announce it to the public? And why is it essential to put it in his novel-length review? If that's not proof that the man is a fat idiot with no shame, I don't know what is.[/quote]


LOL...dude, you always find the most mundane things to freak out about. How much caffeine do you intake? Is someone's wife getting them a Terminator Big Gulp REALLY so bad?

[king_ghidorah]

I get what Mouth was saying....it may need a little added context though...seriously...check out Harry's site from time to time and what is seemingly mundane becomes a lingering reminder that Harry has turned himself into a power hungry monopoly that expects studios to grovel to him and in return he will offer their respective films some geek cred or whatever...

What Mouth was trying to say I believe is that more often than not....Harry's movie reviews/ or articles on films have very little to do with the actual movie itself and about how Harry feels about the respective talent behind the film or about that one time Harry met so and so or the free stuff the studio mailed to him personally the other day....Harry is just so bad it's laughable...a week ago he mentioned being so excited that the original 5 Star Trek movies that were finally being released in on Blu Ray in a box set...that's right...5...he was off by one...a professed fan of the original series and even if he wasnt...nothing a quick check on Wiki couldn't inform you on...and to make it worse...the link he posted to the pic of it on Amazon boldly proclamed that this set contained all original 6 movies!!

Harry is just lazy and inept...a child who has never had to grow up and if doesn't care enough to actually try and write legit articles then why should I care enough to read his work...well....because I just like to see how bad he can get.

[Benjamin Haines]

[RapZiLLa54]