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The Millennium Mechgodzilla series.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:33 am
by we77964
Out of all of the Godzilla Movies, I have yet to see the two Millennium Mechgodzilla films. Are these films are worth the money to buy?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:39 am
by Destroyer D
To me they are.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:19 am
by kiryugoji04

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:28 am
by Legion

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:35 am
by KaijuHQ

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:09 pm
by Mac

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:53 pm
by Legion

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:55 pm
by kiryugoji04

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:18 pm
by Mac

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:42 pm
by kidnicky
I think you could easily say ANY Godzilla film has "lame effects work". What makes the effects in those films so much worse than the ones before and after them?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:47 pm
by Mac

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:40 pm
by Legion
Well I knew we were due for another one of these threads to start up now that the "Fanboys Need to Get Hurt..." thread seems to have died.

Sigh...some people just amaze me. It's fine to dislike certain films but...garbage?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:49 pm
by briizilla

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:50 pm
by Mac

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:12 pm
by kiryugoji04

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:19 pm
by we77964

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:22 pm
by Mac

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:24 pm
by Legion

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:26 pm
by briizilla

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:26 pm
by kidnicky

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:47 pm
by Legion

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:58 pm
by Mac

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:59 pm
by MouthForWar
You also gotta keep in mind that Kawakita was working with barley any budget on movies like Space Godzilla. His work on movies like Gvs Biollante is fantastic. Any SPFX man can do great or terrible depending on time and money, and the Heisei series didn't have much of each. Regardless its a pretty flimsy reason to hate a Godzilla movie (they ALL have moments of things like bad miniature vehickes, or visible wires). Calling out Kawakita for bad SPFX work is no sillier than saying the same thing about Tsuburaya. The effects in these movies have all been centered on surrealism and the time and money spent on the productions will either make or break these effects. Both Kawakita and Tsuburaya have had their good and bad moments like every other effects craftsman.

And I find Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla 2 to be one of the best Heisei movies, crappy Rodan prop or not. It certainly has one of the more solid scripts in the Heisei series, and characters that are more interesting than the usual. Godzilla vs. Mothra is better than people give it credit for, even if it gets dull. Space Godzilla is a big turd, yes, but its not because the effects are bad (they ARE bad but there are many more things wrong with that movie, mostly the script)

As far as Gappa goes, it really isn't a good movie, but I guess it has its charm... personally I don't see much reason to watch it when you can watch the exact same movie, practically verbatim, only much better in Gorgo.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:06 pm
by Mac
MFW, I believe Kawakita's drop in special effect's quality was due to his addiction to alcohol, but don't quote me on that.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:11 pm
by Legion