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Postby Goji66 » Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:40 pm

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Postby Robert Saint John » Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:49 pm

OKAY. SLOW DOWN!!!

Nippon (who did not use a smiley) please go back and read here and in and elsewhere for the past two days.

Short version: everyone needs to stop being so goshdarn sensitive about comments about the movie. There's no reason to get so worked up about it. No one has to "tone it down" unless they start in with personal attacks against each other. If someone says "GFW is better than the original Godzilla" and you don't agree, deal with it. If someone says "I'd rather watch a double feature of GINO and MEGALON" and you don't agree, deal with it.

Discuss it, debate it, don't try to shut down the conversation, don't belittle each other. Keep it cool.
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Postby emeGoji » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:09 pm

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Postby Cactusjack1999 » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:30 pm

Well I got my hands on the "crappy dark video file" and I have to say I'm going to go against just about every single convention to review it.

The opening sequence was great. The opening title sequence is confusing as all hell. They show clips of movies that arent' even supposed to exist in the time line. Very confusing.

That takes care of that

Given that I don't have any knowledge of japanese the language barrier was pretty hard to over come. But I can sum the plot up in a few words.

Take Monster Zero, add in some Ghidrah the three headed monster, then add a very generious splash of the Matrix, and finally glaze with Destroy all monsters. Bake until finished.

Kitamura messed up alot with the human aspect. He made the movie more about the humans and not enough about the monsters (Hello this is a godzilla movie here. The humans are the squishy things that run and hide on a hill side or in a helicopter and watch the monsters level a city) The Mutants i didn't understand AT ALL. I attribute this to the language barrier being so fast that I couldn't pick up on anything. They are supposed to be som kind of "super humans" well why not show it in more than one scene?!

And if you notice I only said one scene. Anything that even REMOTELY resembles the Matrix deserved to be cut. I'm a fan of the first Matrix. the other 2 I wouldn't watch even if I was offered a million dollars (2 million and I might)

Now on to the meat and potatoes. Godzilla.

WAY too over powered for my tastes. the "one-hit kill" aspect was too much. Godzilla to me was always a lumbering green monster that stepped on buildings and defeated monsters on a semi-regular basis. Raymond Burr said in Godzilla 1985 that Godzilla was like an Earthquake or a Tidal wave. A Force of nature.

Kitamura made godzilla too artificial by implimenting the one hit kill thing and making him way to powerful to be challenged by anything. Everything in this movie was a mere annoyance to the King of the Monsters. Nothing more.

Yes I know I just threw my "Force of Nature" arguement into the crapper by saying that but there is a difference between a "force of nature" and "complete and total overkill"

The 3 on one fight was laughable to the point of absurdity.

Kitamura should know now there are somethings that aren't ment to be messed with. Godzilla is one of them.

The "non-Matrix" human scenes were good. They atleast added to the story and gave some background. Like I said there is only one Mutant fight that I liked and that was the one fighting Ebriah in the oil refinery. Though I liked it there are some things left to be desired. Mostly the Guns they had. if 2 Mutants with guns could do that much damage to a giant shrimp why were so many of the other monsters then some of the rest should've been a cakewalk.

The "main" alien...well I'll say I liked how he played his character like an over the top sci-fi villian for the most part. Though there were times that it was inappropriate for that to happen, it was very well acted regardless.

Gordon? Don Frye did a good job. He played the hardass american to a T.

Now to crunch all of that down into a numerical score.

On my personal rating scale of 1 to 10. I give Godzilla Final Wars a

8.0

Needless to say I liked the movie. It wasn't perfect but nothing really is. I didn't want to over analyze the movie like some people do. Trying to find and then pick apart all of the flaws. I watched this as a Godzilla fan and was reminded of alot of my favorite films. I knew this wasn't going to be a perfect film from the start. I swore up and down that I would not pass judgement till I saw it. That I would not join the "Haters" and the "Lovers" baised purely on words from both sides.

I know I'm gonna get alot of flak from this but I'm somewhat neutral in this whole debacle.

There are parts of the movie I didn't like and parts I liked. Not enough on either side to truely throw the balance one way or the other.
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Postby Emperor Kedzuel » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:53 pm

It's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!

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Postby Hajime Kudo » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:01 pm

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Postby PyrasTerran » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:16 pm

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Postby UltraGodzillaX » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:43 am

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Postby Goji66 » Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:21 pm

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Postby Decimator » Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:47 pm

I found GFW to be very entertaining, if sloppily put-together. While Kitamura himself contributed very little to the series (someone slap that f$#%ing camera, and just edit out the freaking human fights!), Kitagawa's performance as Godzilla, and his choreographing of the monster fights (Holy hell!) made this enjoyable on several levels for me. It's not the best G-film out there (Not anywhere close, really); but it is fun, brainless eye-candy...When we get to the monster battles, anyway.

But someone, PLEASE kill Emmerson. The score is like a violent attack against my ears. Minya needs to die. The editing needs to die.

One problem I have with Godzilla: Pyras, I know that you've stated that Godzilla's appearance is made all the more dramatic through the buildup he receives throughout the movie...But WHAT buildup? I don't think I heard the word "Gojira" all throughout that first hour. I may need to see the movie in english, first, but I got the distinct impression that Don Frye's "plan" five minutes before the awakening at the south-pole was the first time he was mentioned...

He was still a major badass, though.
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Postby PyrasTerran » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:16 pm

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Postby Goji66 » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:38 pm

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Postby Goji66 » Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:59 pm

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Postby Robert Saint John » Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:00 pm

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Postby PyrasTerran » Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:36 pm

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Postby Goji66 » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:11 pm

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Postby Tomzilla » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:18 pm

Come, my fellow G-Fans, let us put aside our differences on GFW, and sing songs of joy for the King of the Monsters! Can't we all put pass these differences, and focus on what we have in common? What makes us all fans of the greatest monster that ever lived?

Waits for people to put their guard down...

NOW Pyras!!! Create a topic asking for what people liked and ONLY liked about GFW! Where no negativity can ever exist... (Is aware such a said topic has been made before) and we, the GFW Supporters, will reign supreme!!!

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Postby Kaiju Nexus » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:46 pm

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