Final Wars - Five Years Later

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Postby Shonokin » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:48 pm

I loved seeing it in a theater full of people who howled (respectfully and excitedly) at the spectacle of it all.

Just sitting at home and watching it on DVD, it's OK but not great.
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Postby kidnicky » Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:56 pm

Read MFW's first comment in this thread,then read the one directly following it,then LOL. :lol:
These movies are at their best when they're campy fun. It absolutely blows my mind that there are GODZILLA FANS who complain about a nonsensical plot,corny gags,and unrealistic effects.
GFW is my favorite of the millenium series,and I like it more than the whole Vs. series too,Biolante excluded.
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Postby Flame of Udin » Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:03 pm

In 2004 I was thrilled about this movie, but over the years I have grown to not like this film so much. Yeah, it's good stupid fun but still, this movie was supposed to be special and I remember back in 1999 and 2000 dreaming how cool the 50th anniversary movie would be and when I heard all the monsters that would be showing up I thought this was going to be greatest Godzilla movie BUT....

First off, the opening credits....ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Toho bragged endlessly about getting some hot shot title designer from Hollywood in the form of Kyle Cooper, but who honestly names the title sequence producer in the opening titles? and for that matter, why on earth mention 'Sum 41'? Opening titles are supposed to mention the actors, director, producers and that's pretty much it....viewers were already watching the film Toho, no need to continue advertising it while it was playing! On a side note, I still chuckle whenever I see the interview with Cooper on the DVD where half of the interview is "uh, um, I like Godzilla", then when asked what his favorite kaiju is he busts out a Kongzilla statue! priceless!

Second, the music. terrible. Even the Godzilla films of the 70s had a film score but Kitamura decided to replace it with his usual junk techno he puts into all of his films.

Finally, Kitamura. I don't believe he was right to do this movie. It is pretty obvious he did not care too much about this movie. The guy blew the budget on meaningless stuff like getting washed up rockstars and SUVs crashing for no apparent reason which left Asada with pennies which were quickly absorbed in the making of all the suits, which were barley seen. And what is up with the casting? OK, There were a bunch of veterans who I was very happy to see show up, but there should have been much more. Take that pointless round table discussion for example, Take out all of those actors no one knows anything about and throw cameos of Haruo Nakajima, Kenpachiro Satsuma, Ryo Hariya, Koichi Kawakita all who seemed more then willing to do so. And throw in Megumi Odaka who pretty much could have made up for the utter disregard of the the Heisei series entirely but has since seems to have been forgotten by Toho. Hell, even Shogo Tomiyama would have been great to see!

All Kitamura really did with this movie was make it his usual Kitamura fighting movie but throw monsters in there because well, Toho was paying the guy to.

I was expecting ALOT more out of a 50th Anniversary movie. Hopefully Toho learned from their mistake and will never go this route again.
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Postby king_ghidorah » Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:11 pm

Alot of great points!

Although I think the director was a fan, I believe he stated as much. He just happened to like the 70's era films and that ultimately shaped his vision on what a Godzilla film should be. As it's been said before, sometimes being a Godzilla fan doesn't mean you'll be a good Godzilla director. Just look at The Return of Godzilla....a universally held favorite amongst fans and yet the director wasn't much of a fan. Now look at GxM...director was a big fan...the movie ultimately suffered for it. Then again you have Kaneko who is a fan and a pretty competent director.
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Postby Andrew Nguyen » Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:25 pm

I got no problem with anybody who jumps into a Starfury and rides fire! (Babylon 5)
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Postby king_ghidorah » Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:18 pm

Thank you...much appreciated...this thread is stirring up all sorts of negative emotions in me that I had though that I had put behind me...apparently I just repressed all of my anger and rage towards this film...and thus...it's spilling into all of my post on all of the various forums... slowly but surely...King Ghidorah angry...King Ghidorah Smash! Sorry, for those of us who hate this movie it is just something that we wish to forget and pretend that never happened, like GINO.
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Postby INVINCIBLE HASTUR » Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:26 pm

Loved it when it came out and still love it.
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Postby Flame of Udin » Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:43 pm

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Postby Tiny Gigan » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:29 pm

It was a piece of crap when it came out and five years later it's still a piece of crap.

In fact it's probably even worse now because, after five freakin' years, there's not even rumors of another Godzilla movie in the pipeline to wash the godawful taste of Final Wars out of our mouths and it's starting to sink it that it might really be the last Godzilla film. :x

That's coming from a guy who's even taught himself to enjoy watching "Godzilla's Revenge".
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Postby Andrew Nguyen » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:03 pm

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