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by **Tom R VanSlambrouck** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 3:58 pm

Okay for me its this

Best
GvsMGII
GvsD
GvsB
G'84/5
GvsM
GvsSG
GvsKG

Fav
GvsD
GvsB
GvsMGII
GvsSG
GvsM
G'84/5
GvsKG

I just don't like GvsKG any more I don't know why maybe it's the god awful dub or what but I just can't stand the movie. IMO Godzilla vs Destoroyah is the best film of the Heisei and the best film of the series I don't know why but I just love that movie DAM is a close second depending on which version I see if it' the AIP Dub yes, if it's the International Toho dub released by adv it drops down in points. I just hate that dub IMO its the worst dub ever followed by the GvsKG dub. I'm sure most will agree with me.

by **CyHunter** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:32 pm

by **Tom R VanSlambrouck** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:47 pm

by **anguirus23** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:56 pm

by **Stadawim** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 2:55 pm

Best. Hmmm.

Probably vDestroyer. They brought everything to the table for that one, including the new suit. But a close second to vKing Ghidorah. It was cool to see the origins (one version, anyway) of G and then revamp him and make him larger and more destructive.

As far as production value, vBiollante is also right up there with vDestroyer too. They wanted another solid storyline and they introduced Miki Saegusa who was to prove so pivotal to the remainder of the series.

vMechagodzilla2 is good as well, but i have a simple question in regards to that. What exactly is the point to making a giant robot clone "roar"?

by **Tom R VanSlambrouck** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 3:38 pm

by **emeGoji** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 3:52 pm

by **Tom R VanSlambrouck** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 9:38 pm

by **anguirus23** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:25 pm

^ And as I pointed out, it is only the "official" name so Toho can get a copyright in the states. They bloody well CALL the thing "Destroyer" in the film. If it is called Destroyer, comes from a Destroyer, and quacks like a Destroyer, it's Destroyer!

And in G:DAMM, they attempted to pronounce the copyrighted name, so that wound up being "Destroyah."

by **CyHunter** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:26 pm

^^Yeah, and it sounded really dumb. So again, as far as I'm concerned, unless you're writing it as such that copywriting becomes an issue, Destroyer is it's name.

by **Andrew Nguyen** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:55 pm

by **Desu-Goji** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:51 am

by **Jorzilla** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:58 pm

by **CyHunter** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:39 pm

by **anguirus23** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:13 pm

by **bigwig** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:03 pm

Biollante gets my overwhelming vote. I believe HBO/Miramax home video made this available without any prior knowledge to the fan base. The web hardly existed at the time. I remember being told of it being at a local video store by a co-worker. Being a life-long fan, I was amazed! (Back then, you pretty much relied on fanzines to keep you up on developments, and obviously I wasn't buying many.)

It has a decidedly dubious pace compared with Showa films, but it is so carefully immersed in the scientific phobias of the time (and our time) that it really grabs the thinking audience. It's probably the truest "science fiction" offering since the original.

"Godzilla VS Biollante" takes the time to adequately build the human drama and characters which might rob the 'let's get ready to rumble' crowd, but I believe it makes it a more credible film. But the bio-engineering theme that creates Godzilla's first Heisei offspring really makes it a film that's head and shoulders above most entries. On top of that, the G design set the precident for all the following films through "Destroyer". And, of course, Biollante herself is the most ambitous and nightmarish foe that Godzilla ever faced. I personally hate the rehashes of Showa kaiju in terms of creativity. Biollante inspires awe on film and as an opponent. The only real detractor is that the final incarnation of her is used relatively breifly. (I remember seeing the emerging form in the lake, and thinking, "Oh, no! Not a giant flower!") I wish they'd put more of that sort of creativity into later and current pictures.

by **Evan Waters** » Sat Nov 15, 2003 1:11 am

GODZILLA 84 is in my opinion the best. It's a very effective re-assertion of the creature's ties to the A-bomb and to the theme of nature's revenge. The destruction scenes are terrific and the suit design is one of my favorites. There's a genuinely ominous feel to the whole work- it's perhaps the first really serious entry in the series since the original.

GODZILLA VS. BIOLLANTE is my personal favorite- an epic and rather inventive adventure with a unique atmosphere. Biollante is one of my favorite kaiju, and it helps that this was the first Heisei film I saw (with the exception of the Americanized GODZILLA 1985).

GODZILLA VS. MECHAGODZILLA II is also great (and the first one I saw subtitled.) It has the best score of the entire series, and the most effective "matching-up" of the various monsters- the whole "real life vs. artificial life" conflict, as obvious as it is, makes an effective driving force for the story. The 90s Mechagodzilla is a particularly awesome creation.

GODZILLA VS. KING GHIDORAH I didn't fully appreciate for a while- I first saw the dubbed version quite a few times, and it really has the worst voiceover work of any Godzilla film I've ever seen. When I saw the subtitled version, the performances were much improved and there were a few more subtleties to various story elements. This is the most thematically ambitious of the whole series- a story about imperialism and nationalism and various other sinister forces. Godzilla seems to almost represent Japan at times- weakened and wounded at the close of World War II, but overgrown in 1991 (didn't the economy start to go south a short time after? Interesting bit of foresight if it did.) The time travel stuff is problematic since they're using a "theory" of it that's never really been used before, and it's not explained properly, but this is still a fascinating entry.

GODZILLA VS. DESTOROYAH is a good enough swansong for the series, with a good apocalyptic feel and a genuinely moving climax. It could have been a bit better, though- the story's scientific elements don't make a lick of sense (do the creatures *feed* on microoxygen, or do they produce it, or are they made of it, what does it do to begin with?) and not all the characters are well established. Then there's the very long, very pointless scene where the individual Destoroyah creature confronts the reporter girl in the car. Not bad, but a bit patchy.

GODZILLA VS. SPACEGODZILLA is pretty close, and the two are almost tied really. It does, in my opinion, have the best human ensemble of any entry in the series- Yuki and Dr. Gondo have a particularly nice interaction, and even some of the random military-suited observers get stuff to do. The visuals are good and Space Godzilla is an appealingly designed monster. Parts of the story don't really work, particularly Space Godzilla's origins and powers, and the T-project subplot is wrapped up too early. But overall this is better than its reputation.

I think the least effective is GODZILLA AND MOTHRA: BATTLE FOR THE EARTH. The environmental message is both vague and obvious, the various Indiana Jones bits go nowhere and make the film look older than it actually is, and something about the direction just makes everything less believable than the series normally is. That said, it's still a good movie- just the least good of the series.

You know, the Heisei series was really pretty high quality. Thanks to whoever started the thread for reminding me.

by **CyHunter** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:22 pm

by **Evan Waters** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:26 am

Aso, right. Couldn't remember the name, but that one scene was terrific.

by **Mechagodzilla2003** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:59 am

I have to say Godzilla vs. Destroyah.

by **Velociraptor666** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:39 am

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