Why does everyone like Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah?

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Re: Why does everyone like Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah?

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Postby LawyerDestroyah » Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:14 pm

I kind of agree with the thread starter here. Godzilla v. Ghidorah was the first of the Hesei series I had seen in awhile (a good 5 years at least since I had seen Biollante) and I was sort of dissappointed. I loved the fight scenes...and the mecha-ghidrorah was a very nice touch. But the plot is just...well...too much. I have no problem with the radical reinvention of the classic characters (such as in GMK) but the time travel bit seemed too large of a rip from American films like Terminator and Back to the Future...and seemed to be presented in the most convoluted way possible. Toho desreves credit for trying something different, but in my opinion it just come together.
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Postby Poe Ghostal » Sat Mar 20, 2004 12:41 pm

I was watching this film again the other day, and you know what really annoys me about it? The constant -- CONSTANT -- repetition of that low, grumbling version of the Godzilla roar. In the scene where MKG uses the G-clamp or whatever it is, that particular roar repeats again and again on the soundtrack.

Toho has at least four different Godzilla roars (including that odd, interesting one from KKvG, which I can't recall hearing in any other film)...why did Kawakita choose to use the same roar over and over?
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Postby CyHunter » Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:51 pm

^^:lol:

Yeah, I've never understod why it seems like Toho constantly skimps out of getting different roar variations. It can't be too hard, but very few G-films have a satisfactory amount of different roars (G2K has some great grumbling/breathing sounds, in addition to typical "roars").
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Postby Gwangi » Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:28 am

I guess you can count me in on the disappointment column.

It had some good scenes here and there, with the best IMO being the Godzillasaurus on Lagos Island. Unfortunatly, that sequence was brought down by Omori's inept dialog. When Yoshio Tsuchiya first hears the footsteps, he says "dinosaur" in a matter-of-fact fashion. Then we have Major Spielberg and his infamous line, which I will not repeat. It was ashamed too, because the Godzillasaurus was one of Kawakita's best designs.

The great Yoshio Tsuchiya as Shindo was the best thing about this movie. I was very disappointed in Ghidrah (this design in no way is superior to Tsuburaya's creation). As for Godzilla, well, this design is not one of may favorites. He's too stiff and bulky to do much of anything except shoot rays (though, at least I will give Kawakita props for having Godzilla do some fighting here and not be the total ray-shooter that we will see in the later features).
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Postby anguirus23 » Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:39 am

I thought GxMG had great variation in the roars. They even threw in a few new sounds that were almost like the JP raptor snarls.
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Because it's a wild ride

Postby jamaal7 » Sun Mar 28, 2004 9:17 pm

Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah is a great fan favorite- inspite of its flaws- becasue it's such a wild ride. The film, with its convoluted tale of time travel, people from the future, no-so-well-explained-apprearances of mutated kaiju, seems to wink at you. GvsKG does not take itself too seriously and doesn't seem to require it from its viewers.

There are some interesting stories or subplots here, however. There is Major Shindo and his relationship with and ties to Godzilla. Their 'meeting' 50 years later in Shinjuku, where Godzilla seems to recognize the man who deemed him his savior, is for me the heart of the story. The kaiju battles are great and well done. Particularly memorable is the sight of King Ghidorah flying in the distance, coming for the confrontation with Godzilla. Then, we have these two great, giant monsters facing each other like boxers before the start of a much anticipated championship fight.

The people from the future are sufficiently ridiculous to be entertaining. My favorite is Wilson ("Kill it, King Ghidorah!"). That Emi comes to the aid of her homeland and leads the battle against her fellow Futurians is a great plot twist. She's from the future, but she puts it all on the line to here save Japan after she was betrayed. What if she doesn't make it back to the future? The writer Terasawa wants to distance himself from extrasensory story lines, yet here he is in the middle of the most absurd of stories, hoplessly filled with the contradictions inherent to time travel. His being handed a tattered copy of the book he hasn't finished writing yet is one of the great moments of the Heisei films.
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Postby Stadawim » Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:15 am

I like the time-travel plot and story line that it entails. What i don't like are the dopey Terminator references and Mecha King Ghidorah. While the design is cool, the idea of turning arguably Godzilla's greatest foe into a human-serving cyborg was a touch much for me.
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Postby grimlock » Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:33 pm

This is probably my 2nd favorite Heisi movie (after 1984), althought I haven't seen it in a few years. My VCR broke and I haven't bothered replacing it, and I refuse to spend my money on that full screen double feature. If Sony would re-release this in widescreen and I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Anyway, I like this movie because of its portrayal of G. He looks the best ever IMO, and he is quite menacing. I love the music and his thundering footsteps as well, and the monster battles were really cool. Yeah, the human acting and storyline left a lot to be desired, but seeing M11 running always cracks me up, so I can overlook these shortcomings because Godzilla is so awesome in this movie.
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Postby Legion » Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:06 pm

Ok, best part of Godzilla vs King Ghidora

King Ghidora is attacking the city during his first appearance. There's a building on the extreme left that's got a cut-out Chilly Willy-esque penguin on it. Ghidora knocks the billboard aside that's on top of the building. It falls and bops the Chilly Willy on the head, making it drop straight down off the side of the building. Too funny.

One thing I noticed that got started with this movie is the ridiculous idea that every character (from the Future Men to Shindo) is able to sit around and view the monster battles from their comfort of their own easy chairs. Logic pretty much dictates that a sudden battle between Godzilla and King Ghidora would not be able to be watched by Shino on TV from his office building. Nobody in this film watches the first battle firsthand. Everyone sits around and watches it on TV, making excited comments. Makes me miss the classic Honda days of films like Ghidrah, the Three-Headed Monster where the battles would be watched by a whole group of people on a cliff, pretty much in harms way.

As you can probably tell I'm watching Godzilla vs King Ghidora right now. Damn, the battle between the human (and android) characters aboard the time machine is cringe-worthy. Badly spoken English dialouge, characters that grunt like girls, guards that shake their jowels when M-11 punches them, the cartoony "CLANG" sound the occurs when the andriod guards are kicked in the nuts. And of course there's Robert Scott Field's manic keyboard typing hilariously (but probably unintentionally) set to Ifukube's music. Then, when the Future Men spot Godzilla about to incinerate their ship, Richard Berger (Gurenchiko) gives the camera this completely uninterested sneer right before him and Wilson are blown to smithereens.

The monster stuff also seems off during this sequence. Ghidora's tails hang there limply as Godzilla tries to pull the fleeing monster towards the ground. When Godzilla decapitates Ghidora, the middle head flies off the body straight up into the air, wobbling around on an obvious wire. Then of course Godzilla has to smile after dumping King Ghidora into the ocean.

Also just discovered that there's stock footage from Godzilla vs Biollante in this film. There are two shots of the robot Godzilla head firing the atomic ray at the maser jets taken directly from Biollante and used here.

Maybe it's just me. This film was completely awesome when I first saw it in the Summer of 1992. Lately, it (and most of the other Heisei) films seem to be going stale on me.

And why are there Bandai figures laying around of Godzilla suits that NEVER existed?
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Postby Legion » Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:49 pm

The statue that appears in Godzilla vs Biollante is the Kin-Goji, while the Bandai figure sitting on Teresawa's desk in Godzilla vs King Ghidora is the Mosu-Goji figure from 1984.

The 1991 Bandai Gido-Goji figure sits on the console of the defense force headquarters in Godzilla vs Mothra, while the large Bandai 1991 Godzilla is seen in Kenkichi's bedroom in Godzilla vs Destroyah. Viewers with a keen eye will spot several photographs of the Showa Godzilla films in the very same bedroom as well.

And of course the Marusan Godzilla is seen in Ichiro's bedroom in Godzilla's Revenge while in Godzilla vs the Smog Monster, Ken Yano's toy collection includes the large Bullmark Godzilla and King Ghidora, as well as the standard scale Bullmark Godzilla and Baragon figures. A child character also carries around a tin Bullmark Godzilla toy during one of the Zone Fighter Godzilla episodes.

Getting back to Godzilla vs King Ghidora however...at least Emi is smoking!
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