Why does everyone like Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah?

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Postby dbzgundam » Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:47 pm

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Postby Lord Ghidorah » Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:19 am

I look at the time travel "problem" this way:

Time's arrow points one way. Assuming time travel machines are built, they allow a certain amount of exploration, but they don't always permit wholesale revision of history. Time can be considered a form of energy, or at least represents the flow of energy in the universe. An expression of entropy, if you like, though that definition is not fixed. Energy, like water, tends to take the path of least resistance.

When the Godzillasaurus was removed from Lagos Island, it was done so by people who already knew it would become Godzilla, because that had already happened.
The creature was removed, dropped into the ocean, and was irradiated there. Even if the rest of the world had "lost" Godzilla, the people responsible for the alteration would still know, so assuming he'd vanish from history was a basic and total error on their part.

Godzilla was originally created, lived for a number of years, and would eventually die during the Destroyah incident. Being moved retroactively did not erase Godzilla but instead gave him a net power boost. This boost allowed him to triumph in his later fights and was at least partially responsible for his eventual meltdown. Godzilla in his original form vanished and reappeared in the same effective instant in larger form. Everybody remembered him because there was no interruption of his overall existence; even the Futurian leaders admitted as much when presented with the evidence.
Since Godzillasaurus was seriously wounded at the time of his move, there is no problem with his perceptions creating timeline problems.

King Ghidorah didn't appear until as late as he did because the Futurians planned for his appearance then, not earlier. The whole point of their operation was to punish the Japan of that particular time, after all.
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Postby jamaal7 » Thu May 06, 2004 12:58 am

I'm going to avoid the whole "Time Travel" issue in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah. Attempting to understand it (as if this were possible) might diminish my enjoyment of this landmark Godzilla film.

As you can tell, I'm a fan of this entry in the series. I've been watching it a lot over the last few days (just finished it again this evening). It may be somewhat difficult to enumerate what I like about GvsKG, but that's kind of in line with the nature of the film itself.

First of all, I love the Ghido-Goji suit. It may be my favorite. It is certainly one of my favorites of the entire series. This design is a powerful one. While GvsKG is not flawless in terms of effects, it does contain many visual delights. There's a kind of audaciuosness about it that is an integral part of the film's charm, a charm that surfaces effortlessly.

GvsKG is a 'modern' retelling of the Godzilla/King Ghidorah kaiju rivalry, but it has a kind of Showa atmosphere about it, a kind of carnival fragrance. Although GvsKG is marked with a kind of light heartedness, it has, at the same time, a massive scale and a sense of seriousness as the last, great titantic battle unfolds in Shinjuku. Although the protagonists, with the exception of Emi, are reduced to watching from a remote location via some large screen, their hope in some kind of miraculous return from the future in papable. They are clearly in need of being rescued. When Mecha King Ghidorah appears, suddenly in the sky, the joy of Terasawa and Miki is obvious. The acting is not great, in fact, GvsKG has, if anything, a comic book kind of quality that runs throughout it, but they convey the relief you would expect with Godzilla destroying Shinjuku with nothing standing in his way. And this is how we want to see Godzilla: walking through everything thrown in front of him, impervious to the efforts, many of them creative and bold, to neutralize his attack.

GvsKG tells, perhaps in contradictory terms, the story of Godzilla's origin. Shindo's moving and passionate speech on Lagos Island before the stricken Godzillasaurous encapsulizes Godzilla's realtionship to Japan. It is therefore logical, indeed, most proper, that he should refer to Godzilla as the country's savior as he faces off against King Ghidorah against that great profile shot, like a boxer just before the beginning of a great and decisive fight, a match that will decide who is the real champion.

That Japan is saved from Godzilla, who somehow has this spiritual relationship with the country he continues to attack, by someone who was originally part of an effort to derail the country from it's destiny, is great story telling. It's plot twist in a film filled with them. This is one of the many entertaining aspects of Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah.
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