NO. What I said was there is no proof either way. You could say he was killed, I could say he was KO'd. THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG. If we debated this in court. it would be a hung jury. Why? Because you can't prove he was killed just like I can't prove he was Ko'd. It is perfectly logical for him to have been beaten to death, but you could argue he was beaten to the point that he was Ko'd. I believe he was Ko'd others belived he was killed. Each his own. But don't you DARE imply this is wild speculation on my part. I think my THEORIES hold up just like others people's theories.