Weekly Kaiju Movie Viewing Thread #1 (5/12-5/13)

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Poll ended at Fri May 11, 2012 9:37 pm

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Postby lhb412 » Sat May 12, 2012 2:12 pm

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Postby Alpha OTS » Sat May 12, 2012 6:06 pm

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Postby canofhumdingers » Sat May 12, 2012 6:58 pm

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Postby Alpha OTS » Sat May 12, 2012 7:08 pm

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Postby Alpha OTS » Sat May 12, 2012 8:06 pm

And.....Godzillasicles. (Captain America can sympathize) Just finished. :)

Here's the dvd I watched:
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I love the transfer on this. Even upscaled it looks great. I intended to watch it dubbed, but it started out with the subs and I just let it go. The line about the brain wave interfering with the radio was among the first subtitles which made me laugh and why I had to post it.

I never regret watching this flick. It's just a fun flick all the way around. Serious, but not too serious. Fun and very colorful.

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Godzilla on the coffee bender. I just can't *not* notice how bug-eyed he looks in this scene. It's a great perspective shot however, along with this:

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I really like that they never hesitate to do a perspective shot. Some are far better than others, but they're always going for a constant sense of scale.

Anyone else get the impression that Kumonga prefers the taste of giant mantis over any other options?
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Sun May 13, 2012 12:01 am

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Postby Timz » Sun May 13, 2012 12:03 am

I can hear really well and I am STRONGER than ever!
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Sun May 13, 2012 1:06 am

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It sucks to live in a world full of giant monsters.


And yet it's exactly why Son of Godzilla is such a successful film. I can nitpick about Godzilla and Minya's design but so much else outshines it. The performances, the work for Kumonga and Kamacuras, Masaru Sato's fun score, and not to be forgotten is the AMAZING story. Island full of monsters and a monster offspring seems pretty straight forward...but by god that's not it's strength. It's everything else. The key plot is the experiment, which is based on a very real concern. The science is also pretty simple by Toho movie standards. Then we have further ties to reality such as Doctor Kusumi bringing up that some people stayed on the islands of the pacific even when the Japanese withdrew.

We're also given some more of the down to earth kaiju we had in Sea Monster (albeit far more interesting ones). Minya being born, Godzilla fighting Kumonga. These are all the background of this film which is essentially about what it's like to live in a world of giant monsters. I think this film does that better than any of the others and that's why I like it so much.

Cool moments:
Kumonga's awakening and crawl from his pit.
That great moment when Riko runs into a resting Kamacuras which promptly goes on the assault.
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Postby Alpha OTS » Sun May 13, 2012 10:09 am

Needed some background noise while I get motivated to get the house ready for mom and family. I'm on KP duty with Goro cutting potatoes, no special seasonings, mind you. :) So I put this back in with the dub this time.

I like the dub. The voices mostly match the character, and it doesnt seem *that* out of place. Having this fresh in my mine from yesterday, I did quickly pick up on the changes. :) The one guy complains that the professor works them too hard while saying how he misses Japanese food in the sub, while in the dub he says how much me misses a cold can of beer.

"Gimantis. A giant praying mantis. It would take a reporter to come up with a name like that." Hrmm.....compliment or slam?

MekaGojira3k, I love that shot. My favorite scene is the egg hatching. It's played out like the neighborhood bullies picking on the defensesless little kid. I love some of the group shots of the Kamacuras together which seem to convey that they're a band of thugs.

Fun with google:

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Inside my Sony dvd case was an insert advertisement for the X-Plus 8" PVC Godzilla Classic Series 1 figures. Available in Dec-04! It was either this movie or one of the other Sony releases with the same insert that made me aware of these figures. I have two of them on my dvd shelf and they're among my favorites.
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Sun May 13, 2012 1:25 pm

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Postby H-Man » Sun May 13, 2012 1:30 pm

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Postby Benjamin Haines » Sun May 13, 2012 7:24 pm

Son of Godzilla has one of the best casts of any Godzilla film. We've got a team of United Nations scientists working toward a solution to world hunger, a reporter who jumps out of an airplane on a whim and a woman who had been living on the island all her life. There's not really a villain among the human cast. Furukawa gradually goes mad from the heat throughout the film, becoming a problem for everybody else more than once, but he redeems himself as a team player by the end. I think this might be the only Godzilla movie without any human casualties.

The setting for this film is unique. Aside from beginning and ending scenes at sea, the entire movie takes place on Sollgel Island. The grueling heat that the characters live with every day is conveyed effectively and I like how, despite being isolated from the rest of the world on that island, giant monsters just happen upon them. They start off dealing with some large mantises, then the radioactive storm turns them huge, then those mantises unearth the egg that hatches Minilla, then Godzilla shows up, and finally we learn that there's been a giant spider sleeping on the island all along. They picked a hell of a place to conduct their experiment.

When I was a kid I didn't understand why Godzilla seems to temporarily abandon Minilla on two occasions, right after he's hatched and at the end. I think that was Godzilla wrestling with the decision of whether to take on the responsibility of being a father. He comes to the island because he hears the distress cry (or distress brain wave... whatever), not knowing what exactly he's responding to. He sees three Kamacuras preying on a newborn of his own species so of course he intervenes, but afterward he doesn't seem interested in sticking around with this kid he just found. He eventually has a change of heart, maybe realizing that Minilla will die without him, so he returns to take the infant with him. After they defeat Kumonga together, Godzilla's instinct is to leave the snowy island and return to the ocean. When he sees that Minilla doesn't even have the strength to follow him through the snow, he realizes that Minilla isn't old enough to go into the open ocean. Godzilla has to choose between wandering back out into the world as the free-roaming King of the Monsters or staying on that frozen island for Minilla, and he decides that his adopted son is more important.

Jun Fukuda and Sadamasa Arikawa seemed to really like showing human-monster interaction. Both this movie and Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster have several scenes where people and monsters are consciously aware of each others' presence, with lots of composite shots showing them in the same image together, and here there are even life-size props of Kamacuras' pincer and Kumonga's leg that the actors perform with in front of the camera.

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Son of Godzilla is definitely one of my favorites in the series. It always has been.
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Postby Alpha OTS » Sun May 13, 2012 8:22 pm

We're going on about what works in the film, but what doesn't work? I know some of us have nitpicked the kaiju suits in the past, but what I really noticed this time around is the abundance of facial expression Minilla has. The eye-work on both him and Godzilla really help put forth a connection between them and the viewer that I don't know if it would have worked as well with one of the other G suits. I seem to like the G suit here more each time I watch because it fits the narrative.

The story works.
The casting is perfect.
The comedy doesn't distract from the seriousness.
The dub is actually decent.
There's always a constant sense of scale. (as Benjamin's great pics help point out)
The enemy kaiju are menacing.
It's simply colorful.

What can we really say that we *don't* like about Son of Godzilla? I'm having trouble thinking of anything that I outright dislike. There's things that aren't technically perfect with some of the perspective shots and puppet work, but anything to genuinely dislike? I mean, I watched it twice this weekend!

Was the professor's experiment technically a success if gigantism in the insect population is a side effect? :)

It's Sunday night here and we'll need another poll for the next viewing thread started tomorrow. I'm offering the honor to MekaGojira3k. Might 5 polling options be one too many? Does Gamera vs Gyaos deserve another round? Will Timothy2035 reach the poll in time to vote? I leave that answer to you. :)
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Sun May 13, 2012 10:36 pm

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Postby kiryugoji04 » Sun May 13, 2012 11:02 pm

Woo! I'ma try and watch this sometime this week for sure. In the meantime I'm just gonna be a "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" and post my Kamacuras fanart:

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Postby king_ghidorah » Sun May 13, 2012 11:10 pm

That's more than regular ol sexy...that's UBER sexy. Best looking Kamacarus I've ever seen
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Postby jellydonut25 » Mon May 14, 2012 9:19 am

Gills.

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Postby Alpha OTS » Mon May 14, 2012 4:38 pm

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Postby MekaGojira3k » Mon May 14, 2012 9:31 pm

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Postby Alpha OTS » Mon May 14, 2012 9:52 pm

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Postby MekaGojira3k » Mon May 14, 2012 9:58 pm

:lol: but that's the same look he always has.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Tue May 15, 2012 9:43 am

Gills.

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