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Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong launches in October

Postby Kailem » Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:02 am

Well hot damn, now THIS is a crossover!! :D The 7-issue Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong is coming from DC and Legendary this October!

https://www.scifijapan.com/images/Godzilla/Justice-League-vs-Godzilla-vs-Kong-1-01.jpg
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"What starts as a routine clash between the Justice League and the Legion of Doom takes a dangerous turn when the wall between worlds is breached…with Godzilla, Kong, and the Monsterverse emerging on DC’s Earth! What ensues will be a brawl of unprecedented scale and destruction!"

"The epic crossover begins when Clark Kent, enjoying a night off with Lois Lane, is interrupted when the entire city shudders under the weight of the monstrous Godzilla, who emerges from the bay."

https://www.scifijapan.com/images/Godzilla/Justice-League-vs-Godzilla-vs-Kong-1-04.jpg

"And don’t miss the Godzilla “Roar Sound FX” gatefold variant cover and the Kong “Roar Sound FX” gatefold variant cover, both by Christian Duce, on sale November 14 (polybagged, $14.99 US). Sound chips in the covers will have both Godzilla and Kong deliver battle roars when the gatefold is opened! Hear them RRAAGGHH!"

https://www.scifijapan.com/godzilla-toho/justice-league-vs-godzilla-vs-kong-coming-from-dc-and-legendary-comics

Granted I've not been regularly picking up comics for years now, but I'll certainly at the very least have to nab the trade for this when it comes out next year! :D
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Re: Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong launches in October

Postby lhb412 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:40 pm

Wild! The gates have really opened now that Toho has apparently okayed crossovers. Crazy to think that we'll have Godzilla/Kong meet DC and Ultraman/Ultraseven meet Marvel comics running concurrently, I think?
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Re: Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong launches in October

Postby Benjamin Haines » Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:32 pm

How cool is this? Seven issues of Godzilla, Kong, the Justice League and the Legion of Doom, co-published by DC Comics and Legendary. They're really going all-in with these franchises. This comic miniseries will be running when Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom opens in theaters and it will be wrapping up when Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire opens.
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Re: Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong launches in October

Postby Kailem » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:32 am

Yeah I love how they're continuing to promote the Monsterverse even outside of the movies now. Not long ago it looked like Godzilla vs Kong might be the end of it, but stuff like this gives the impression that they're not just 'putting out one more movie and that's it.' They're really are going all in.

And yeah with Ultraman/Ultraseven crossing over into mainline Marvel continuity (whenever that actually happens), and now Godzilla and Kong entering the DCU, it's a great time for massive comic book monster crossovers!! :D

Also a trailer just dropped:

https://twitter.com/Godzilla_Toho/status/1682571210696146945?s=20
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Re: Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong launches in October

Postby Kailem » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:01 pm

The DC November solicits are out, including the one for issue #2:

JUSTICE LEAGUE VS. GODZILLA VS. KONG #2
Written by BRIAN BUCCELLATO
Art by CHRISTIAN DUCE
Cover by DREW JOHNSON
Connecting variant covers by DAVID NAKAYAMA
1:25 variant cover by FRANCESCO MATTINA
1:50 variant cover by DUSTIN NGUYEN
$4.99 US | 40 pages | 2 of 7 | Variant $5.99 US (card stock)
ON SALE 11/21/23

Legendary’s Monsterverse has been unleashed on the DC Universe, and cities are threatened across the globe! From Metropolis to Gotham City to Themyscira, the Justice League scrambles to protect the citizens from these raging titans! What role has the Legion of Doom played in all this monster madness, and how will the tide of battle change…when a hero falls?!

Cover and variant covers at the link:

https://www.kaijubattle.net/godzilla-legendarytoho/justice-league-vs-godzilla-vs-kong-2-solicitation-from-dc-comics
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Re: Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong launches in October

Postby lhb412 » Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:47 pm

Some social media controversy about the interior art where Godzilla appears to be digitally traced images from MonsterVerse stills. I don't actually mind tracing when the artist applies something stylistically cool (like their own distinctive linework), but I have to agree it does seem lazy as is.
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Re: Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong launches in October

Postby Kailem » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:13 pm

Yeah sadly it seems like it's becoming more and more common when it comes to licenced comics these days. There's been a lot of if popping up in the Alien comics over the years, both when Dark Horse was still publishing them and also with Marvel now. I doubt it's something I would have noticed if it hadn't been pointed out, but like you said, it's still just lazy, especially for professional comic book artists who should be doing better.
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Re: Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong launches in October

Postby Benjamin Haines » Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:05 pm

I've read the whole seven-issue hardcover edition of Justice League vs. Godzilla vs. Kong. It's a blast!

I'm not deeply familiar with DC Comics lore aside from Batman and to a lesser extent Superman. I watched both of their '90s animated series but I've only seen a handful of episodes of the two Justice League animated shows in my life, and I actually saw much more of the first three Super Friends shows on Cartoon Network back in the '90s, which was my introduction to Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Green Lantern, the Flash, Hawkman and the Legion of Doom. I still haven't even seen either cut of the live-action Justice League movie and I'm way behind on live-action DC films in general. I've watched Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, Birds of Prey and The Suicide Squad but I still haven't seen Aquaman, Shazam, Joker, Wonder Woman 1984, The Batman, Black Adam, The Flash or Blue Beetle. I've only seen a few of the many direct-to-video animated DC movies and I've never watched any of the many live-action DC shows aside from Adam West's Batman. On top of all that, I've never kept up with the comics, so it's helpful for readers like me that this comic doesn't require any deep DC knowledge.

Even with such a huge roster of heroes and villains, these are characters who have existed agelessly in comics for decades, so this story has no problem establishing its own present-tense status quo. At the outset, Lois Lane already knows that Clark Kent is Superman, they're already dating and he's preparing to propose to her. Meanwhile, Lex Luthor has located Superman's Fortress of Solitude and he leads a cadre of villains inside to steal certain artifacts, but when Toyman picks up a magical item called the Dreamstone, he inadvertently transports the villains into a different reality, namely the Monsterverse right on Skull Island! As Kong battles a Skullcrawler to Gorilla Grodd's astonishment, Toyman's wishes cause the Dreamstone to transport them back to their home reality, along with all of Skull Island itself and a slew of titans from the Monsterverse. Just as Superman is about to propose to Lois on top of the Daily Planet building, Godzilla emerges off the shore of Metropolis! Scylla attacks Central City! Behemoth appears in Themyscira! It's all hands on deck for the Justice League!

Crossovers like this are less about original storytelling and more about mixing and matching the elements of different franchises in interesting ways. Any kid with a sandbox full of toys can mash them together to create a franchise crossover, you know? They're simple and obvious premises, so it's all about how they're done. Justice League vs. Godzilla vs. Kong is no different and it succeeds at making the most of its premise. We get to see a plethora of DC heroes and villains interact with creatures from Legendary's Monsterverse in iconic locations. The seven issues are thoughtfully structured, rather than just a continuous cacophony of toys mashing together, so each issue stands out with its own distinct content.

This comic even went beyond my knowledge of both Batman and the Monsterverse, as it features Gotham City under attack by a giant bat monster called Camazotz. Since it hasn't been in a movie, I initially thought Camazotz was an original creature made for this story but I later learned that he debuted in Legendary's 2021 graphic novel Kingdom Kong, which I don't own as I've mostly ignored Legendary's Monsterverse comics before this. I got the 2014 graphic novel prequel Godzilla: Awakening, which I thought was pretty lame, and then I got the 2019 graphic novel Godzilla: Aftershock but I still haven't read it, and I just never got around to picking up Skull Island: The Birth of Kong, Godzilla: Dominion, Kingdom Kong, or Godzilla x Kong: The Hunted, so I'm glad I made an exception for this one. Batman and his bat-adjacent allies race into action to protect Gotham from the giant bat monster. Along with Batgirl, Batwoman, Black Canary and Cyborg, Dick Grayson is there as Nightwing, and Jason Todd is there as Red Hood, so I assumed that the young Robin riding with Batman in the Batwing was Tim Drake, but apparently he's an even later Robin named Damian Wayne who is Bruce Wayne's son. That's new to me. Another thing in this comic that surprised me, but which is presented like it's nothing new, is that Wonder Woman is able to fly. When did that become the norm? It's also not clear when this comic is supposed to take place with regard to Godzilla vs. Kong. I know that the movies aren't made with the lore of the comics in mind but this comic seems to be set after the events of GvsK, based on context clues throughout the story, with the glaring exception that Kong is shown to still be living on Skull Island in this story rather than in Hollow Earth. There's also a Warbat on Skull Island in this comic, whereas those creatures were never depicted outside of Hollow Earth in the movies. I just chalk that up to inconsistency. This comic is a sequel to an alternate version of GvsK in which Kong resumes living on Skull Island at the end!

There are a lot of cool scenarios throughout this story that take advantage of the crossover premise. Green Arrow investigates Skull Island. Hawkgirl and Shazam show up to assist Superman against Godzilla. Supergirl meets Kong and proves to be unlike any blonde he's ever encountered in prior media. Lex Luthor locates the beacon of a certain Apex Cybernetics cyborg and commences his own reconstruction. Tiamat attacks Atlantis, and I later remembered that those issues were published before her screen debut in GxK this year, and then I learned that she actually first appeared in the Godzilla: Dominion graphic novel back in 2021. I guess that means Tiamat's inclusion in GxK was meant to be a treat for devoted readers of the Monsterverse comics, although I wonder how fulfilling that really was for them considering how quickly and gratuitously she's eliminated in the movie.

There are plenty of other surprises in this comic that I won't spoil, although some of them are spoiled by the variant covers of certain issues so beware looking at those. Speaking of which, the cover art for this series is phenomenal and the hardcover edition includes a full cover gallery at the end. The interior art is really good too. The DC characters look great and the colors pop all around. The monsters are clearly elements that these artists aren't accustomed to drawing, as there are lots of images (particularly of Godzilla) that are obvious recreations of specific shots from the movies and promotional materials. I don't think that ruins anything but that's definitely there.

This series must have sold well because they've already announced a sequel comic for 2025, which will be set in the Monsterverse and feature Mothra, Rodan and King Ghidorah. I'm all for that, although what I'm really hoping for is a direct-to-video animated film adaptation of this comic. Imagine that: a fully-animated American Godzilla movie, co-produced by Legendary and DC in association with Toho and WB, featuring Kong and the Justice League and the Legion of Doom. It could be the sixth American Godzilla movie, the fifth Godzilla/Kong crossover movie, the fourth fully-animated Godzilla movie after the anime trilogy, and the first movie in which Godzilla fights Superman! Since Batman and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles have already had a comic book crossover that was adapted into an animated movie, I'm holding out hope that the same can happen with this!
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Re: Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong launches in October

Postby Kailem » Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:43 am

I got the hardcover for Christmas and read it a few days ago, and I agree that overall it's a lot of fun!

I used to watch a lot of Batman: The Animated Series, and later Justice League/Justice League Unlimited back in the day, and those along with the 90's Marvel cartoons were my gateway into getting into comics properly in the mid 2000's. I only pick up trades and hardcovers occasionally now, but I do like dipping back into these universes again from time to time. This was also my first time reading a Monsterverse comic, and by all accounts it sounds like it's probably one of the better ones, since I've never heard great things about any of the previous stuff that's out there (even though I'll probably end up giving them a look eventually). Anyway as you'd expect, you don't really need much knowledge of the DCU to understand what's going on here anyway, since it's all pretty well spelled-out for you. There might be one or two characters and events that fly over the heads of those without *any* knowledge of these characters though (a Bat-related bad guy shows up at one point briefly during a sub-plot who is never introduced verbally and does something that has a direct impart on the story for example), but otherwise it's pretty smooth sailing.

A certain amount of the big spoilery moments I'd already had ruined just by virtue of being around Godzilla-related stuff at the time these issues came out, but it was still cool to actually read everything in context. I liked how they really made Godzilla and some of the other Monsterverse monsters showing up in the DCU feel like a big deal in this, and something worthy of the Justice League's attention. And a big part of that was having them show up in some of DC's most iconic locations, which is always appropriate for any self-respecting giant monster! :lol: I'd seen images of Camazotz before so I knew what it was, but it was cool seeing it in action; and going up against the Bat-family in Gotham was just too obvious *not* to happen!

Speaking of obvious, the panels/images that were clearly traced from Godzilla promotional material weren't as numerous as I was fearing going in. It'd be great if there weren't *any*, but unfortunately it just seems to be the reality these days that if you're reading a comic based on a movie license that you're going to encounter tracing. But at least in this case it wasn't as bad as it could have been. And continuing with the negatives, I could have done with a little less of the "kiddy speak" in certain places too. Maybe it's just me, but Lex Luthor saying "facts" just doesn't seem right. But again, there were only a few times when that sort of thing irked me.

I hadn't noticed while reading it, but you're right about the continuity not quite fitting with where it's assumed to take place on the Monsterverse side. But then with one certain thing in particular that happens towards the end, it clearly can't be taking place in regular DC continuity either, so just considering it a big, fun mash-up is for the best. The ending especially was just one huge, over-the-top monster and superhero battle that was a lot of fun, exactly the sort of thing you want to see in a comic like this.

So yeah, this was fun! I'm definitely looking forward to the sequel now too. It'll be interesting to see how they work Ghidorah into it, given that one of the few things we know about it at the moment is that it's supposed to be taking place in the Monsterverse rather than the DCU this time. But chances are they'll just use the same "don't worry about it" excuse to bring him back that you kinda have to go with here to get past those little continuity issues anyway; or just resurrect him with the power of a Lazarus Pit, perhaps?

Sadly I think we may have missed the boat when it comes to this being adapted into an animated movie though. Until recently it would have at least been a possibility, but when James Gunn and Peter Safran took over as head of DC Studios word has it they canned the animated movies that were in production at the time, no doubt because they're now taking an "everything is canon" approach to their movie-related DC universe efforts. So something like Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong, which would definitely *not* canon to the new DC movie universe they're about to kick off, probably isn't going to happen now for that reason alone.
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Re: Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong launches in October

Postby Benjamin Haines » Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:25 pm

^ Personally, while James Gunn's Superman film looks very promising and I think it will be a big hit, I'm not expecting this second attempt at building a "DC Cinematic Universe" to catch on with general audiences any more than WB's previous 2013-2023 effort. I think the box office failure of the multiverse-hopping and cameo-filled The Flash (just $108m domestic toward $271m worldwide on a $200m+ budget) illustrates the extent to which moviegoers care about DC canon unto itself. Good on Gunn for turning his undeserved and temporary firing from Marvel into a complete takeover of DC but I don't think he or anyone else has the power to make casual viewers differentiate between which DC titles are canon and which ones aren't, especially since people browsing streaming services or catching things on TV typically don't bother to check what year anything came out. I expect that "everything is canon" approach to be dropped before this decade is over, so even if it takes several years for Justice League vs. Godzilla vs. Kong to get an animated film adaptation, I remain hopeful!
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Re: Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong launches in October

Postby Benjamin Haines » Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:31 pm

SciFi Japan has shared DC's press release about the sequel series, featuring cover art and a preview of the first issue's interior pages.

https://www.scifijapan.com/godzilla-toho/dc-and-legendary-comics-share-an-updated-look-at-covers-and-art-from-justice-league-vs-godzilla-vs-kong-2
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Re: Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong launches in October

Postby Dai » Sat Mar 22, 2025 5:10 pm

I finally got around to buying the hardcover. The quality of Godzilla comics has been all over the place, but this is definitely one of the best I've read. It ties into (one of many versions of) an important moment in Superman's life, which gives it some emotional weight. There's plenty of variety to the actions scenes, with various Justice League members coming up with some delightfully over-the-top anti-kaiju tactics.

The art is excellent throughout, lending a sense of weight and motion that sells the scale of the battles. The colourist deserves special mention for great use of lighting.

If it fails anywhere, it's in missing the opportunity to be an accessible entry point to DC comics for kaiju fans. It's written with the assumption that the reader is a long-time DC fan, and thinks nothing of throwing a cast of several dozen characters around, many without any introduction or explanation of their powers. I have enough familiarity with DC through movies, TV shows, and some of the more famous graphic novels to be able to identify almost everyone, but there was still one moment that left me scratching my head when a character I didn't recognise (and who was never introduced) popped up in one panel and the writer expected me to join the dots to something inexplicable that happened in the next panel (presumably the same character using his power, but again it was never explained). In fact it has such a massive cast that it loses track of most of the DC villains towards the end; they're pretty much forgotten as the kaiju battles reach their peak. The kaiju are the whole point of the crossover though, so that's not a major problem, but the script could have done with streamlining.

It works better as an introduction to the Legendary Monsterverse for DC fans. The writers mostly use kaiju who don't have a lot of lore that needs explaining, while Monsterverse Godzilla's role as a force seeking to bring balance to the natural order gets well established.

Overall, I enjoyed it a lot more than I expected, since I find that giant monsters don't often translate well to the printed page. I'm looking forward to the sequel. It would be fascinating to see the Justice League go up against Shin Godzilla (imagine all the bizarre evolutions it would need), but DC's licence is with Legendary specifically, so I doubt we will see any Toho-specific versions of kaiju.
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Re: Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong launches in October

Postby Benjamin Haines » Sun Mar 23, 2025 10:12 pm

^ I didn't find it hard to catch on with any unfamiliar characters in this comic, as a kaiju fan with limited knowledge of DC lore beyond Batman. There were several heroes and a lot of villains that I didn't recognize but their roles are easy to grasp in this story. Atom Smasher was a hero that I didn't know but I figured that growing giant is his superpower when he showed up and tackled Godzilla. Beast Boy only appears in one panel with his head turned away before he suddenly transforms into a giant green copy of Kong, and I remember it took me a minute to realize that was the same kid from Teen Titans who turns into animals. The only thing that really confused me about any of the DC characters was Wonder Woman being able to fly. Since when can Wonder Woman fly?
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