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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby jellydonut25 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:14 am

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby lhb412 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:49 am

I'm so freaking pumped. I wonder if the movies will be bundled with their associated shows or sold separately?
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby O.Supreme » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:25 pm

Jinzo Ningen, I agree with parts of your sentiment, after all, I am extremely attached to the English dub as well. I mean, I spent way too much money, back in the 90's on nth generation bootleg VHS copies just to watch this show. While I would Love 3000X for the Mill Creek BRD set to have the English Dub, I accept it's not there, even if I don't fully understand why, and it's also the reason why I am (as mentioned previously) keeping my Navarre sets from almost 15 years ago. Also, contrary to popular belief, the video presentation on those is not terrible. I can't comment on MC Budget release from 2009 because I never purchased it, except to wonder.... If they had access to the dub back then...why not now? Perhaps it was part of their agreement with TPC?

At any rate, I'm supporting this new release because it will lead to many other series and films being released. Like I said, I still have those other sets I cherish, nothing can take those away. But again, when compared to Paying well over $100 in 1992 for VHS copies (that had been copied from Betamax to VHS and degraded tenfold) , as opposed to 27 years later getting a pristine BRD set for $40, (which btw costs something like $400 in Japan), I'll take that deal.

I also recognize your concern about those who haven't seen Ultraman since it went off the US airwaves 35+ years ago. Sure some will want to see it the way they remembered it. I would imagine the MC set from 2009, especially being so economically priced would have scratched that itch for many. I mean i saw it at walmart, so I have to believe it was a fairly wide release for such a niche title. But again it all comes down to educating the fans. Even though the specs are clear on sites like Amazon, don't be afraid to reiterate it on social media as well. Heck that MC set from 2009 is still available, in many places for anywhere from $5-$10 .

Maybe if MC is sitting on a mountain of these old sets, maybe they can offer it as a *free bonus* or something. Think of it like DLC for a video game. :wink: , ok maybe that's not the right comparison, and it is a bit of a pain,.....But if a fan REALLY REALLY wants that feeling of nostalgia, they can pay an extra $5 and get that dub set, I'd be OK with that, and I think a lot of other fans would too. heck after all, even when this was on TV in the 70's/80's, the quality of those video masters wasn't the greatest. Does anyone remember watching original Star Trek before it was *restored* in the mid 80's :lol: :lol: .

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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However, I stand corrected on one thing. I guess they are in talks with MGM to see if they are allowed to use the English dub.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Dai » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:47 pm

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This is jaw-dropping news. I thought licenses for one or two shows might be negotiated slowly over the next several years, but a massive deal like this is incredible. Thanks to everyone involved in making this happen. After Crunchyroll started de-listing some of the Ultra series, I worried about the day when I wouldn't be able to watch the likes of Nexus, X, and Orb anymore. Sounds like I won't need to worry for much longer.

I'll definitely be upgrading my Shout DVDs of Ultra Q to that blu-ray set, and I'm not at all bothered that it's the monochrome version. Ultra Q has some of the best cinematography in the franchise, and it was designed to take advantage of the atmospheric nature of black and white.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby H-Man » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:12 pm

Keith, from your comments earlier in this thread I'm guessing that TPC wasn't able to get back what MGM has of the Q dub. August has said a few times ( ) that MGM had located the original elements for most episodes (the few that were missing may have simply been mislabeled) and that he thought circa 2011 that TPC was in the process of reacquiring all of it. I'm guessing it wasn't as simple as that and the possibility of hearing the unreleased dubbed episodes in the future is pretty doubtful; would you say that's the case?
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:07 am

Jinzo I respect your opinion but you seem to be the only one fuming that the Ultraman release may not include the dub. Yeah it would suck if they can't work something out but that's sure as hell not going to stop me from enjoying this set and future sets for that matter. As Keith mentioned above it all comes down to licensing so hopefully a deal can be worked out so we can get the dubs on the set if not I won't be to upset.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Dr Kain » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:12 am

Like Sentai, I will buy every Ultra show that is released, even the "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" ones like Ultra Seven X, Leo, and Towards the Future.

In fact, when it comes to Toku, I will buy every Garo, Metal Heroes, Ultraman, Sentai, and Kamen Rider show whether I like it or not, whether I have seen it or not, just because. All it needs to include is the Japanese audio track and subtitles.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby O.Supreme » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:55 am

Just to round out that post however. I don't think what AIP/Titra did is completely infallible, but there is an obvious quality as opposed to others. It goes the same for the AIP Gamera vs Daiei and/or Sandy Frank dubs of Gamera films. There is more to translation than just words. It's about conveying the original idea of the speaker. It's also about voice matching. If a native speaker has a deeper voice, and a dub gives him a squeaky or goofy voice, that can be a huge turn off. The same goes if a studio assigns all the male parts to two actors that just do slight variants of all their voices, and one female to all the female voices, as opposed to getting different people to voice all the parts.... Additionally, when you have actors who's first language is English, as opposed to Actors who read English as a secondary language, there is a huge difference in delivery.

How Gatchaman was *dubbed* into Battle of the Planets and later G-Force is an extremely fascinating study into English dubbing, since Sandy Frank was involved with BOTH versions. Initially in the 70's he assembled a then well known and professional voice acting cast. A New full orchestra theme song was added, but much of the original Japanese music was still retained. Names were changed, violent content was removed, and new more *kid friendly* content was even added.

A decade later, Sandy Frank dubbed the series a second time, changed the character names again (objectively worse names than previously), the Japanese score was almost entirely removed in favor of a often short-cycle-on-repeat keyboard score. The actors were still professional, but their performances were objectively not as good as the 70's voice cast. The episodes were still edited for content, but not *as much* as the 70's versions, and no new content was added in an effort to keep them closer to the original.

Now to be fair, there are some people that don't like dubs at all, and that's fine. I don't like Chinese food, and I don't have to eat it, but then to say "It's all the same" I think would be highly offensive to a lot of people, and an ignorant statement, that I would never say.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Dr Kain » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:09 am

I'm sorry you don't agree with me, but I don't see how there is any difference between the two dubs (and Ultra Seven's, which can't even get character names right). The lips synch doesn't match, so it always looks like the audio is out of synch, the voices do not sound like the actual actor's voices, and the script is different. Like I said, I don't see how they are different in the slightest. It's basically just watching someone speak over the actual characters. That's why I don't like any live action dubbed.

However, if you mean the quality of the voice actors themselves, then yes, Tiga is most definitely worse than Ultraman.
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