Mechagodzilla'93 x Kiryu

[zekend01]

Height and mass vs. speed and agility. Got the idea from an earlier post from Sean. What 'bout dem weapons??? Discuss................

[anguirus23]

Kiryu's missiles would hurt MG, but Kiryu's beams are another story. They'd just feed MG energy, then it's plasma time...

Also, without a size change, Kiryu had better hope MG doesn't fall on him. If they were the same time, I expect Kiryu would just walk up and beat him into scrap.

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[Lord Ghidorah]

Kiryu's beam cannon (specifically named such on the remote-control display) are undefined; my impression is that in Japanese fiction a "beam cannon" is usually a charged particle weapon, rather than a laser or discrete plasma launcher. "Particle beam cannon:" the term is also used in American fiction. (For example, see the "Man/Kzin Wars" anthology series.)

Godzilla's breath weapon is in fact a beam cannon; its effects are completely consistent with thermal, kinetic, and radiological effects expected from a gigantic stream of high-energy particles. Kiryu's beam cannon would feed MechaGodzilla's energy stores - slowly. The arm-mounted weapons are much weaker than Godzilla's breath weapon.

Kiryu's maser cannon would not lend significant energy to MechaGodzilla.
Microwave Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation is just another way of saying that Kiryu's "breath" weapon is a super-short-frequency laser. (Maser "beams" do not waver like stylized lightning bolts, but they're also invisible. Toho's versions at least look cool.)
MechaGodzilla's absorption system could probably glean a little heat energy from the microwave interaction with armor, but there would still be physical damage from the excitation of carbon and metal molecules.


Kiryu's armor held up very well under prolonged Godzilla blasts. Its durability seems to be based purely upon strength, rather than absorption. I tenatively call it stronger than the alloy used on MechaGodzilla. However, MechaGodzilla's energy weapons (not counting the Plasma Grenade) overwhelmed Heisei Godzilla's own breath weapon. This sheer volume of energy fire could suffice to overcome the inherently stronger armor on Kiryu - if it all hits.

Having established that both units could harm each other with rays/beams, I move on to missiles. Both units featured extensive missile stores in addition to their energy weapons. MechaGodzilla's special missiles were much more effective than the HE warheads Kiryu deployed. Based on their ability to easily penetrate Godzilla's hide, I rate MechaGodzilla's missile weapons (including shock anchors) as more powerful - obviously.
However, I also note that diamond - even layered artificial diamond - is not very good armor material from a shock standpoint. Kiryu's missiles would shatter MechaGodzilla's diamond coating wherever they struck. This was not so much of a problem when Godzilla clawed or battered MechaGodzilla, since its remaining coating was still specifically designed to trap Godzilla's breath energy. Against an opponent whose weapons only minimally feed MG's ultimate weapon, though, every incremental loss of absorption capacity would be more bothersome.

Both units carry "ultimate weapons" in their torsos. MechaGodzilla's problems in charging the Plasma Grenade have been noted. I would expect that Kiryu's operator would refrain from using the Absolute Zero Cannon until a hit was guaranteed. MechaGodzilla's thrusters, while not as impressive as Kiryu's, make it potentially much more agile than Godzilla, and wasting a huge chunk of energy in the face of a much larger mecha is unwise to say the least.

These two must batter each other to the point of mechanical failure. There simply are no quick kills from a distance. Up close, Kiryu is at a disadvantage because of its size, but has a completely overwhelming advantage in agility. MechaGodzilla has great mechanical strength, but is not especially effective in hand-to-hand against its (admittedly much larger) Godzilla. Kiryu, on the other hand, could booster-check its Godzilla into a flat trajectory without any ill effects. That's a lot of energy.

I give this match to Kiryu, eventually. MechaGodzilla is awesome, but Kiryu is amazing. That result is contingent upon both units being used to full effect, though. If Kiryu is left vulnerable in front of MechaGodzilla, the older design could concentrate its superheavy beam armament.

[zekend01]

^^^ Whew. Good argument there Lord Ghidorah. Wonder what a blast of Absolute Zero would do to MG though... could the big guy shake it off?

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[anguirus23]

[Lord Ghidorah]

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[sean]

Kiryu wins.