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Godzilla(Heisei) vs. The real world

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:18 pm
by Goji_2k

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:49 pm
by sean

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:34 pm
by CyHunter
I think he'd have a better chance of survival if he stayed on land rather than tried fighting the combined naval forces of the world. Of course, he could sink underneath the sea and dissapear...at any rate, there will be a lot of wailing and mashing of teeth.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:20 pm
by Mexigojira

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:29 pm
by Kaiju Eiga

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:23 pm
by Brendosaurus

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:46 pm
by Stargodzilla

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:55 am
by Brendosaurus

right

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:55 am
by Xenorama

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:26 am
by Stargodzilla

Hmmm...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:14 pm
by Tomzilla

Re: Godzilla(Heisei) vs. The real world

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:03 pm
by briizilla

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:24 pm
by Ultraseven

Re: Hmmm...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:09 am
by Rexrapptor

no they didn't

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:17 pm
by Xenorama

Re: no they didn't

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:43 pm
by Rexrapptor

hmmm

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:52 pm
by Xenorama

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:25 pm
by anguirus23

Re: Hmmm...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 6:37 pm
by Tomzilla

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:52 pm
by Lord Ghidorah
195' tall sauropod? Yeah, right.

Godzilla's cells are (for whatever reason) able to survive and utilize nuclear energy. Godzilla can thus handle metabolic costs that no normal animal could support, such as growing muscle and bone to titanic strength and resilience. His regeneration is just cell division carried out by millions of super-charged cells.

Godzilla is not a mutant as a result of radiation exposure. His mutation is being able to metabolize radiation. I do not have a link at the moment, but I do recall real-world bacteria which do something similar. In an abstract sense, it's not that much different from redwoods converting less-intense solar radiation into woody trunks that stand as tall as a Godzilla. A difference in degree but not in kind.

Godzilla's ability to survive our modern firepower is pretty much a given, if he's given enough time to regenerate.
I've never seen official range and yield figures for Godzilla's breath weapon, but I'm confident that it at least matches the gunnery range of the tanks I served alongside. The same is true of the majority of anti-tank missiles. Even missiles guided by aircrews have a distinctly finite range. There's a real possibility, varying by the technologies available, that some countries' armies and air forces simply could not inflict lethal damage to Godzilla even assuming they could mass all their mobile forces.
Artillery greatly outranges Godzilla - there would be none of Toho's old depiction of field guns pointing straight at him - but he tends to move around. Conventional shrapnel seems very unlikely to bother Godzilla, and the same goes for the relatively small cluster packages in DPICM. That leaves nuclear, biochem, and guided explosive rounds. Nuking something which either feeds off radiation or melts down is a bad idea. Godzilla might not appreciate nerve gas or nasty bugs, but his radioactive body would definitely reduce the potency of many agents in use today. (Weather conditions alone can seriously degrade some nerve toxins.)

We can reasonably conclude that the best real-world way to hurt Godzilla would be to constantly hit him with large-caliber guided artillery shells and rockets. In doing so we would have to wear him down, forcing him to regenerate enough to decrease his nuclear "fuel." Eventually, the explosives would wound him seriously enough to kill him, and/or he'd finally wander back to the sea and disappear.

Godzilla is much smaller than many warships. However, while modern torpedoes have good range, speed, and yield, naval gunnery is somewhat neglected. Godzilla's ability to use his breath weapon underwater would be a serious problem at close ranges, just as his habit of diving would render most missiles useless. Some missiles do carry depth bomb or torpedo warheads, though, so a well-equipped fleet could harass Godzilla from long range. Still, naval fighting would most likely consist of submarines vs. the monster until he decided otherwise.
I do note that, while torpedoes have quite large explosive payloads compared to artillery shells (except for battleship rounds), they do not have nearly as quick a rate of fire, nor are there all that many total tubes in a given fleet. There is also a small degree of friendly-fire risk when operating too many submarines in a given volume, particularly near a large and deadly monster prone to closing with an enemy.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:55 am
by Ultraseven

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:08 am
by Rexrapptor

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:32 pm
by Brendosaurus
And we've seen in almost every single Godzilla movie just how useless convential weapons are.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:44 pm
by cho
GWB would say "Bring it on Godziller." And make some rhetoric about how we'd liberate Japan from the terrorist monster. Then we'd get our asses handed to us and Ultraman would swoop down from the cosmos to save the Earth.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:19 am
by Lord Ghidorah