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by **Robert Saint John** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:09 am

That's what I can't quite figure out. The Lord President (standing in the Citadel?) says "This was the day the Time Lords returned". So is what we see in the beginning of Part 2 a flashback to the end of the Time War, or is it "now", or both?

In other words, perhaps Doctor 8 (or 9) was there at the end, leading the Time Lords, but disappeared. Are the events taking place now in "The End of Time" the events that will end the Time War? Or is what we saw a flashback, and we'll see how the/some Time Lords hide themselves away waiting to come back now? This seems likely as it's been said a number of times that the Doctor was already responsible for the end of the War, saw his planet burn and so on.

I have some theories about a number of whos, whens and wheres not to mention what to do with 6 billion Masters, and I suppose some of it is obvious, but it also seems it will be difficult to wrap up the loose ends.

One piece of speculation that might spoil:

I noticed that in the "Next Time" trailer, you see the President and his cadre of Time Lords in an empty space, the Doctor up front with a gun. One of the Time Lords who had her face covered is revealed, and she looks like Claire Bloom (the woman talking to Wilf in the church and on TV). But the one on the left still has her face covered... or his face covered?

Oh, here's another commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In_NE3jz5CE

Slightly different than something I saw yesterday on BBC, which included a very brief shot of what appeared to be a bunch of missiles flying toward a giant sphere floating over the ocean. I'm not at all sure what ship or whatever it is that the Doctor and Wilf are in, guns a blazin'

by **TheMaster** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:42 pm

by **lhb412** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:25 pm

by **Baltan II** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:52 pm

Saw it, won't spoil it, but I kinda liked it. Everything confusing about the Lord President narration makes sense once you see it. Definitely went for an emotional punch.

by **Robert Saint John** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:16 am

My short review of tonight's story.

"Part 2 was Poo."

that is all :lol:

by **Dr Kain** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:43 am

by **Robert Saint John** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:18 am

by **Dr Kain** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:44 am

by **TheMaster** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:45 pm

by **kiryugoji04** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:46 pm

by **lhb412** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:15 pm

^Well, for the new show start with Series 1, for the old series you can really jump in at any angle. I'd reccomend great stories like The Deadly Assassin, Robot of Death, Genesis of the Daleks, Caves of Androzani, The War Games, Inferno, The Curse of Fenric...

Basically, for the old show all you need to know is that The Doctor is a time-traveling alien and he travels (usually) with a human companion (or companions) to keep him company. The new show has some added complications to the backstory (happening after the original series ended and the new show began), but you learn that buy watching the new show from the begining.

Anyway, The End of Time Part 2 was a good sendoff. It made the last part better by association (the Master Race stuff improved by the straightforward and capable way it was handled in the first half of this episode).

Welcome Doctor #11! Welcome showrunner Steven Moffat. Does the new season start in April of March?

by **Dr Kain** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:18 pm

End of Time Part 2 was really well done. I don't think it lived up to the finale to Season 4 as a way to saying farewell to every character, but it was a fantastic finale. And getting to see Timothy Dalton play a villian is always good. It was a nice way of sending off Tennant though, and I loved how the Tardis began to blow up as he was regenerating. It is a shame though that Tennant is gone, as he was an incredible actor, but he did his run, so I hope something good for him in the future. Overall, it was a grand finale to a grand adventure, but I will say, I am a bit skeptical on the new guy. Not only does he look ugly, but he has the bad luck of replacing an amazing Doctor. I just hope he is as sadistic of Tennant's was, as that to me is what made the Doctor stand out. Nevertheless, Feb 2nd cannot come quick enough for these to be released on Blu-Ray.

BTW, what happened to the preview of the next season that was supposed to be shown before Demons?

by **Foxtrot X-Ray** » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:51 am

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