Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

Postby Dai » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:49 am

The way some people are reacting to Batman crossing the line in Batman v Superman reminds me of the outcry that followed the momumental levels of destruction during the Superman vs Zod fight in Man of Steel. People acted like it was just mindless carnage and accused the film-makers of not considering the consequences, when it was obvious that they had, and that the fallout of that destruction would be a major theme in the sequel.



Likewise, people are ignoring that Batman's depiction in BvS is just one part of a long game that will continue into Justice League and the next stand-alone Batman movie. Whether or not you care about that long-term plan is a different question.
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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

Postby XvGojira » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:44 am

My one sentence review of Batman v Superman. Mess by Committee.

First off, I did actually like the movie. Not as much as I would have liked but I did not think it was as horrid as rabid internet does. Although it is a mess.
It really feels like WB/DC REEEEAAAAALLLLLY wanted to have a Justice League movie out as soon as freaking possible. Like two years ago. But instead of giving us a good movie to move towards that goal they shoved a Batman movie, Man of Steel 2, and adapted the tie-in prequel comic to the Justice League movie into a single film. Too much, too fast, too soon.

Any thing with Batfleck and Alfred was great. I thought that Eisenberg was actually a great Lex. A very different kind of Lex. A full on crazy Lex. I can deal with that. I like that. Gal was a great Wonder Woman for as a short time as we see her.

But like I said there's like two and a half movies in this thing. A non-origin solo Batfleck movie would have been nice, as from interviews and other ancillary things I know that Alfred is less of a butler and more of a very close and personal friend of the family who makes all the bat-gadgets. Which I really would have loved to see explained and whatnot. And it'd be good to have a better sense of how long Batman has been Batman-ing and what not. Like is there a Robin out there? A Nightwing? Batgirl perhaps? And why the hell is Batman

Lex's whole scheme to But the story line was done in such away the I don't think some of the audience was able to follow it in full.

And then there's the Justice League set up. that is obviously setting up the JL movie. Add to that there was I honestly don't know, that was just damn confusing and did NOT mean anything with in the movie itself. I know WB/DC wants to get a JL movie but let it flow naturally and don't make a movie just a stepping stone to that because you're too damn impatient to do a few solo movies before getting the gang together.

And who is to blame for all of this? Well was it Sam Raimi's fault Spider-man 3 was stuffed with enough villains and plots for two movies? Was it Marc Webb's fault Amazing Spider-man 2 felt like it was more interested expanding the Spider-Verse than being a good movie? That's why I don't fully blame Zack Snyder for this mess. This mess was created by executives who are trying to play catch up to Marvel with little regard to anything else.

Mess by Committee.
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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:05 am

Gills.

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

Postby Dai » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:59 am

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

Postby Dr Kain » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:59 am

The dream sequences are down right awful and out of place. They are random and annoying because you think the movie is doing something for its story and then one just appears. They never made sense and the one with Flash was the worst of them. Ezra Miller is NO Barry Allen!!! He looked like some bum cosplaying as Flash. In fact, Aquaman looks like a hobo too.

Bruce has been Batman for 20 years, so that means this Batman has to be somewhere between 45-50. Either way, Alfred states this a few times during the movie.
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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

Postby Gojira-2000 » Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:50 pm

Scene that should be in the extended version:

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

Postby XvGojira » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:21 pm

As cool as that was, it still falls into the "this is just here to set up Justice League" category. The general movie going audience who knows nothing about greater world from the comics would just be damned confused by that. "Was Lex summoning a demon?" "What were those boxes? Some sort of Hellraiser thing?"

I mean it's not like how Thanos was teased and brought up in the Avengers and other Marvel movies.
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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

Postby tbeasley » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:09 pm

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

Postby lhb412 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:13 pm

^Judging only from the trailers, it seems like The Suicide Squad may be much more heroic than Batman and Superman, too!
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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

Postby Rodanex » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:53 pm

This pretty much sums up how I feel about this movie:

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

Postby Jinzo Ningen » Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:18 am

Funniest thing I'm seeing are these pathetically deluded DC fanboys who've got their tinfoil conspiracy hats strapped down so tight that they've convinced themselves (and are desperately trying to get everyone else to believe) that evil world domination megamachine Disney has payed off all of the reviewers around the world to purposely trash BvS. Really people? just... whatever... *SIGH* :roll:
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Re: Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice

Postby Dr Kain » Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:34 am

I don't think the movie deserves the 29% it has on RT, but I do think it does deserve to be called out for what it is.

I find it funny that there are DC fans who are willing to accept something as mediocre as this just because it builds on a bigger universe. The only positive I see here is that it means DC needs to rethink their approach and use that to fix the rest of the planned cinematic universe. Of course, if Iron man had been this poorly received, there would have been no MCU. Nevertheless, we shouldn't have to like this movie just because it features the DC trinity. DC is capable of giving us so much better and have shown they can do better. Why not hire the people that know these characters, like Bruce Timm, instead of getting some bozos that have never picked up a comic in their life?
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