THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2: ELECTRO BOOGALOO

[Legion]

[MouthForWar]

[briizilla]

[INVINCIBLE HASTUR]

[ryuuseipro]

[kiryugoji04]

[kidnicky]

[Xenorama]

now that's something i never thought i'd hear! excellent taste. it is "Thunderball Fists" though, not machine gun! INFRA-MAN is easily the best live action superhero film ever.

i'm sorry, what were we talking about?

David (still hasn't seen Spider-man 3)

[TheMaster]

[Mac]

[kidnicky]

[RapZiLLa54]

[Mac]

I can see why the fanboys hate it, because it's actually Burton's own take (Unlike much of the mediocre first) on Batman.

The first one is more bang-for-the-buck and it has Nicholson and all that pizazz, but it's pretty half-assed as far as storytelling is concerned and you feel Tim Burton's personality wrestling with the commercial requirements of the picture.

Batman Returns works on an almost mythic level, with character traits exaggerated to the point of being almost ridiculous. I mean look at the first shot of Bruce Wayne, he's just sat in the dark, waiting for "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" to go down so he can bat up and beat people down.

It's not a comic book accurate Penguin or Catwoman film, but it's most decidedly a Batman film as both characters, and Schreck, have been warped to be dark, fractured reflections of Batman, the orphan freak, the costumed avenger, and the billionaire philanthropist. And the fact that they all try to kill each other at various times is part of the fun and says something about the character.

I won't argue that much of the plot is a mess and takes quite a few leaps in logic. That's true. But the final confrontations strike me as character driven payoffs to everything that's happened before. Burton made an artsy, psychological, expressionistic Batman film.

Oh, and Danny Elfman's score is amazing, way better than the first.


EDIT: I still flip-flop on which super-hero movie I enjoy the most, Batman Returns or The Dark Knight.

[kidnicky]

Since the Dark Knight doesn't feature the Penguin as a deformed freak with flipper hands wearing soiled pajamas and vomitting black "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" all over himself,I'm going to say it's a superior film to Batman Returns.

"Not comics accurate" is a pretty big understatement. Penguin in that movie is not even remotely similar to the comics.

[MouthForWar]

[ryuuseipro]

[INVINCIBLE HASTUR]

Can you believe there were several comics fans (and I met some of them) who thought Tim Burton could do Spider-Man better!? Can you imagine that? [/quote]

That's seriously a joke. I hate Tim Burton movies. The are all the same F#cking thing over and over and over. The dark, spooky-ooky sets, same actors, "Cute" title sequence, a piss Danny Elfman score that sounds IDENTICAL to his last film score, most of them are remakes or at least stolen ideas that someone else came up with first, and now some are saying he should do a Spiderman flick? Come on!! What's that ...

Johnny Depp in a B-L-A-C-K Spidey suit? OOOOOOOOOOOOW!!

Screw Tim Burton. He's a talentless hack and he uses his hands too much when he talks.

[MouthForWar]

I can't see how anyone in their right mind would want a Burton Spidey, especially after seeing how badly he as going to rape Superman.

[Mac]

[INVINCIBLE HASTUR]

[sachiel]

[Henry88]

[ryuuseipro]

[lhb412]

I'd just like to point out that all art is self indulgent, even if it makes fun of itself. That's what makes it art. It's like a bad habit that feels real good.


Did I mention I've decided to become pretentious? I've decided to become pretentious. I'm a lit major and I listen to Tori Amos music so there is no getting around it now.

[MouthForWar]