Sony's Spider-Man Cinematic Universe

[Specium Ray]

Anyone arguing that the creator's vision should be maintained should look up Steve Ditko's philosopies. Stan Lee had to do a lot of work to reel him in.

I grew up watching cartoons where Bugs Bunny is about to be eaten by plate-lipped African canibals and Speedy Gonzalez hung out with a guy called Slowpoke Rodriguez. American pop culture used to be a very white, straight, male place and it's just not anymore. There would be no point to make Spider-Man black but then call him Miles Morales. It's the same as saying "it's OK, he's not really Spider-Man (wink)"

But it doesn’t matter because they won't do it anyway. Sorry for derailing the topic, just depressing to see my childhood characters frozen in time for 50 years.

[MekaGojira3k]

I used to be in the Just make him Miles Morales camp, but honestly, after reading this discussion I feel that it doesn't really matter. I mean, at all.
Of course we all know that Spidey should be Japanese and pilot Leopardon.

[Dr Kain]

[jellydonut25]

"DON'T KEEP COMICS STALE!.....but keep the whites white....except for characters nobody knows or cares about at all, then we can throw minorities a bone and claim we're giving them what they want."

[klen7]

[jellydonut25]

I really think it's only racist to change the race of characters whose races are in some way inherent to their background. The Captain America example was a good one. Who in the 1940s would select a black soldier to be given superpowers? Superman is probably a good one too, honestly. Small rural Kansas town is gonna be accepting of a pair of farmers who claim a little black baby is theirs?

But why can't we believe that a high school kid from a lower-middle-class family who never knew his parents is a black kid? Because 50 years ago, he was drawn white because there's NO WAY a main hero character created in the early 60s would have been a black character when comics were still putting their black characters into books called Jungle Comics and All-Negro Comics?

Is it pandering to change the race of Spider-Man? I'd argue the only way it IS is if you do it and then make Spider-Man a lower-tier hero who has fewer books, and never participates in major storylines. Then it's that old "Look. We have a black hero, see!?!? Never you mind that he doesn't do anything of importance whatsoever."

[MekaGojira3k]

[klen7]

I would like to offer three solutions:
A) Create more original content that resonates with the current generation of comic readers while representing a diverse society.

B) Don't include people in comics. Just robots and aliens and dinosaurs and monsters.

C) Stick figures


I would lean towards option B as the easiest and most fun, however with motion capture option C could be feasible on the big screen.

[XvGojira]

[Specium Ray]

[lhb412]

[mr.negativity]

The actor will appear in both Sony's 2017 stand-alone films as well as 'Marvel Studios' Captain America: Civil War,' which will preceed it.

[XvGojira]

So a mostly unknown. Cool. I'm totally down for a young Spidey. Lucky kids are going to have a superhero as young as they are.

[klen7]

He's 19, so still older than high school age, but at least he's not 30

[XvGojira]

[Benjamin Haines]

[mr.negativity]

[mr.negativity]

Marc Webb talks here for the first time since The Amazing Spider-Man franchise was scrapped in preference of a Marvel Studios led reboot, commenting on the creative direction they're now taking the character in, and which villains he was hoping to utilise in the third instalment...

[jellydonut25]

Wow...so good thing Marvel stepped in when they did. It's just crazy to me that superheroes are so wildly popular right now, and Marvel's BIGGEST is in such dire straits.

[Tom R VanSlambrouck]

I agree with Jelly that plot sounds terrible very very terrible. I'm kind of glad both TASM3 and SM4 got cancelled both seemed to have ludacris plots that make absolutley no sense what so ever. It's kind of sad that Sony messed up the Spider Man franchise so bad, it's like their video game division when it came to the PS3 they had two major successes in the PS1 and PS2 so they figured they could price the PS3 at what ever they wanted and people would buy it, in the case of the SM film series they probably figured they could make the plots as absurd as they wanted and people would go see it.

[mr.negativity]

[mr.negativity]

Vacation writer-directors John Francis Daley and Jonathan M. Goldstein are being set right now to write the Spider-Man reboot movie for Sony Pictures and Marvel Studios.

[mr.negativity]

CBM:


Deadline:


THR:

The lackluster opening for 'Pixels' highlights the ousted exec's weak slate ('Chappie,' 'Aloha'), as Sony slips to last place in major studio market share.

[Dr Kain]

[lhb412]

^This is Marvel we're talking about: these folks were hired for their ability to show up and take orders.