X-Men: Apocalypse (2016)

[O.Supreme]

Anyone disappointed by this film, and wanting to see a good representation of Apocalypse. Just watch the 90's animated series 4 part story arch "Beyond Good and Evil"

[jellydonut25]

Oh, I also wanted to add: this whole thing about calling/not calling these characters by their names is an issue in EVERY adaptation save for the Batman franchise.
The amount of aliases they don't use between Flash and especially Arrow is staggering. It took four years to finally call him Green Arrow.
Daredevil doesn't get called Daredevil for the whole first season, nor does Kingpin.
Black Widow hasn't been called Black Widow since one throwaway line in the first Avengers film.
Hulk gets called The Big Guy or The Other Guy or even Banner.
Iron Man is basically just called Tony now.
Falcon is only referred to as Sam.
Hardly any of the villains have ever been named: Iron Monger, Whiplash, Yellow Jacket, Abomination...unless it's their actual name, we don't hear these things.

Unless you're gonna be mad about it in every single one of these movies, it's kinda silly to just pick and choose when and where it bothers you and you're gonna draw the line.

For a character who's somewhat nebulous like Apocalypse and has never really had a clear-cut definition of what he is, what he can do, and his agenda, I thought they did a great job.

I feel like we could debate the quality of the film and script, but I'm a tad befuddled by the notion that Apocalypse himself was jacked.

[Dr Kain]

[jellydonut25]

Do you get pissed when ANY character doesn't have ALL their powers? They got the spirit of the character down pat, and though he didn't have psychic powers (I don't think that's even really typically a STAPLE of his character) he was capable of defeating Xavier on the psychic plane while doing battle with Magneto physically. That's pretty damn good.


I don't know what Nightcrawler brain freeze scene you're talking about, but I imagine (SHOCKER) some things were (GASP) cut for running length.
They weren't in a cage that nullified their powers, it prevented them from escaping.
Stryker was not dead. Getting tazed doesnt kill you.
As for the aging thing, people just have to get over it. These characters were the same ages for DECADES in the comics. They've been through the 60s and are the same age now. This IS a fictional universe and these ARE movies...hell they're COMIC BOOK movies. Here's a franchise that's pretty damned comic booky in that it has jumbled timelines with rebooted characters and changing motivations and allegiances, and characters that stay the same age through the decades and people complain. I guess nobody knows what they actually want.
"Be more like the comics!!!"
(Very much like the comics)
"this is stupid and unrealistic!!!"

[Dr Kain]

Except the cage did nullify their powers. If you remember, those green lights were in the helicopter and Nightcrawler said he couldn't teleport and Jean couldn't use her powers either. THen in the prison cell Quicksilver couldn't use his speed.

Perhaps you are right, maybe I am being overly critical. However, this is the 9th movie in the franchise, so maybe I expected a lot more out of it but what I got was more of the same. Fox played this one way too safe and that may be where my problem is coming from.

BTW, yes, I did get pissed at the treatment of Rogue in the first trilogy because they never gave her the ability to fly.

[O.Supreme]

I haven't seen the film yet (probably going waiting util it goes to the cheap theater). But as for the whole aging thing...yes these are comic book movies. Do the characters have to age? NO...but I just think there should be some sort of consistency, either age them, or dont...and none of this...yeah sometimes some, and not others..randomness. Wolverine gets an out because he pretty much always looks the same (though movie magic camp keep Hugh Jackman looking the same forever..thus the reason why Wolverine 3 will *hopefully* be his last)

But...even in the fictitious world of comic book movies...how can you expect anyone to suspend disbelief that in 17 years Xavier will go from

TO


Patrick Stewart was @63 when the first X-Men was being filmed. McAvoy was @36 when Apocalypse was being filmed.... Suspension of disbelief aside 36+17 (years from 1983 to 2000) would be 53...missed it by a whole decade. Plus if the next film is set in the 90's, I doubt they will wait a full 10 years IRL, thus the ages will be skewed even more.

Also I get because of messed up non-forward thinking they introduce Havok before Cyclops. But Havok should not be Older than Cyclops. Its the dominant "older brother" dynamic that Scott has over Alex that makes their relationship interesting. Reversing it is just....wrong IMHO

[Gman2887]

The aging with Havoc bothers me a little, but the X-Men movies have been playing it fast and loose with the continuity for awhile now--Picking and choosing what works best for the next movie. It's sort of like the Showa Godzilla movies at this point: Worry about the movie not the continuity. Which, to be honest, is sort of a refreshing attitude in the middle of a world obsessed with a cohesive, "cinematic universe".

I don't want every franchise to be as disjointed and care-free about continuity as the X-Men franchise, but I am glad it's doing it.

[jellydonut25]

Nightcrawler couldn't teleport out of the helicopter, Jean couldn't use her telepathy on the cockpit...which was outside of the "cage" they were in on the helicopter (she obviously used it to some extent if nobody found them when they opened the door), Stryker says "don't get too close to the walls". It's a CAGE, not a magical depowering box.

[MekaGojira3k]

The longer I think about this movie the worse it seems. It's better than X-Men Origins and the Last Stand, but there's a lot of issues. Which is disappointing.

[Dr Kain]

[Mysterio]

[jellydonut25]

[Dr Kain]

[jellydonut25]

You know, back on this cage thing, if it nullified powers Beast would have turned human, instead he turns beasty.

[Hybrid Gojira]

Of all the X-Men films Singer has had anything to do with, this is the weakest of the bunch. I find it to be very uneven. Some parts are really great; others drop the ball so severely that you could literally cut them out an barely notice.

[mbozzo]

I just saw X-Men: Apocalypse, this weekend, and I has to post that I like it.

[canofhumdingers]

I really enjoyed this one. It does bug me that they totally ignored and contradicted the whole Mystique is Stryker saving Wolverine thing. But otherwise I've really got no complaints. Yeah there's some nit picky conitnuity issues is you really want to focus on them (like Angel's age) but I figure they reset the timeline with DOFP anyway, so who's to say things didn't happen earlier or later in this new timeline than they did in the old one...? And as for Professor X's age based on the age of actors portraying him... Blah. Actors routinely play characters older or younger than they actually are so you can't assume the character same age as the actor playing him. And really, is + or - a decade really that significant when you're talking about someone who's roughly 60?

But yeah, I thought it was quite good. I actually walked out of the theater thinking I might like it more than Civil War. But i really enjoyed both quite a lot so I think I need to see each again before I can make an honest assessment of which I really prefer.

[Benjamin Haines]

I finally saw this and I thought it was really good. I don't get the amount of critical drubbing at all. No, it doesn't hit the same high mark as X2, First Class, or Days of Future Past, but it's at least as good as The Wolverine, Deadpool, and the original X-Men if not better.

It was great to see Rose Byrne back as Moira MacTaggert. Jean and Cyclops get plenty of screentime, Mystique is great as a full-fledged protagonist, and Quicksilver steals the show again, this time taking part in the action all the way through the third act. Of course, this being an ensemble X-Men picture, some characters do get relatively minimal roles and development. Of Apocalypse's four horsemen, Magneto gets the meatiest character arc, followed by Storm, while Angel and Psylocke are kind of just there. On Professor Xavier's side, Nightcrawler is the one who seems to just fill out the ranks and Jubilee is barely in the movie at all. Oh well, so it goes...

I'm glad that Bryan Singer and the folks at Fox have been so willing to embrace the out-there aesthetics and unrealistic nature of the source material in their most recent X-Men movies. We couldn't have gotten a movie like Days of Future Past with time-travel and giant robots in the early 2000s, when the modern superhero film genre was just starting to blossom, and that holds doubly true for Apocalypse. This movie, the ninth in the series, has more of a Saturday morning cartoon vibe than any of the others and I loved that.

[jellydonut25]

We're living in an era where nothing is allowed to be "good" or "fun, but not great" EVERYTHING is either the best thing yet or the worst thing ever.

[DannyBeane]

[Hybrid Gojira]

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[Dr Kain]

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[Dr Kain]