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Wait.....Rolisica wasn't meant to be? Questions...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:24 pm
by Bijou
The concept of Rolisica wasn't in the original draft of MOTHRA? It was made only made by tinkering of the movie's co-producers, Columbia? Honda and the rest of the Japanese producers, crew never approved for SPFX shots of New Kirk City and the concept itself? Mothra originally kills Nelson and not the Rolisican people? Oh, bull! I'm tired of being mislead by fanboys that have a vendetta against any type of reference to America and its culture in Toho's feature films. I can't stop hearing how it the movie would've been better if they didn't put in the fictional country and just sticked with its original draft. I thought it was put there as a hint of two, hungry, nuclear superpower countries, Russia and America. Also, wasn't another message of the movie was Japan's reliance on ''Rolisica'' for military protection (which in reality would be, America)? I find it incredible that such obvious things pointed in a Japanese-made movie is done by American ''tinkering''.

How were the special effects not approved by Tsuburaya? Why is that they're considered ''excellent'' when Mothra raids Japan, but ''bogus and horrible'' when she rampages through New Kirk City? Mothra features some nice SPFX, but overall they're a very mixed bag and there are many problems throughout the entire film, not towards the end. Mat shots are decent, but the Shobijin are the worst and more others too. I don't want to hear any more information from these imbeciles because they're the same people that told me that GODZILLA VS. THE THING, the AIP cut, completely removes important aspects of the film. They even claimed such ridiculous statements were made by the people of Henshin!Online, which I find virtually impossible. Any clarification? I'm at a point were I'm going to bash my face in the keyboard if I have to hear any more of this type of crap from anal fanboys.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:25 pm
by Robert Saint John

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:49 pm
by Bijou

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:42 pm
by Robert Saint John

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:24 pm
by Bijou

I'm confused

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:56 pm
by OtiGoji

PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:03 am
by JimPV

Re: I'm confused

PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:45 pm
by kpa

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:14 pm
by Bijou

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:26 am
by Rodanex
I've never heard this either. So "Mothra" was a collaboration between Columbia and Toho from the beginning?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:47 pm
by kpa

Re: I'm confused

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:11 pm
by Stargodzilla

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:34 pm
by kpa
Columbia co-produced the film with Toho. Before filming started the two companies issued a joint release announcing that the film. According to Age of the Gods it's likely that Columbia also were responsible for the Peanuts being in MOTHRA because the singers were on Columbia's record label.

As Oti explained earlier, Toho's original plan was to end MOTHRA with the monster catching up to Nelson as he attempted to flee to Rolisica. Mothra cornered Nelson on the edge of a cliff, and advanced on him until he fell to his death:

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Toho filmed the scene with the actors, but the fx were never done because Toho and Columbia changed the ending.

Publicity shot:
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Columbia offered Toho additional money to film a bigger ending in a western-style city, so Toho changed it so Nelson actually makes it to Rolisica before he is killed.

This shot of Nelson on the cliff did end up on the theatrical poster:
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The actual ending in the film is the same in both the Japanese and US versions of MOTHRA, and it was done by Honda and Tsuburaya so a lot of the "fanboy complaints" Bijou posted at the start of this thread aren't true.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:25 pm
by Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:01 pm
by SciFi Geek

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:16 pm
by kpa

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:16 pm
by Benjamin Haines

PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:06 am
by SciFi Geek