Why I love FINAL WARS and thoughts on absurdity in G-Films

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Postby eabaker » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:52 pm

Hey, the movie definitely is an anniversary film, and it definitely (okay, that's an opinion...) is a bad film, which absolutely makes it (fine, if I must say it, in my opinion) a "bad anniversary film." I simply don't see how its failure as an anniversary film actually makes it any worse than it is simply by its nature as a bad film.

Although, I might make the case that the whole idea of approaching it as an anniversary film is one of its fundumental problems. Unless you have some brilliant metatextual comment to make, starting with the idea of "fiftieth anniversary celebration" is a hackey, tacky, lame way to develop a story.

Jeez, what's with all the italics, Evan?
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Postby John Schuermann » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:03 pm

As I read through all of the comments here, one of the things that strikes me is a sense of outrage that some express that others might share a different view, that somehow someone who enjoys film "X" is somehow wrong for enjoying it. That's entirely different than explaining why you do or do not enjoy a film and then "comparing notes" with others who feel otherwise. Sometimes a different view can help you see a film with new eyes and appreciate things that you previously missed.

If I can speak to my own experience here, I posted a while back that I saw no entertainment value whatsoever in G vs Gigan. Several posted in defense of the film. My take on that is this - while I do not personally enjoy G. vs. Gigan, I am glad that others find their own enjoyment whenever they sit down to watch it. I am not "angry" that they like it, or take some offense because it does not fit my own personal take on what a Godzilla film "should" be.

Arguing about the objective merits of a film gets even trickier. It seems that most would like to think that there is a way to objectively "rank" films that can be defending in a rational, almost scientific manner (that "Citizen Kane" is a better film than "Twilight: Breaking Dawn" for example). I know I personally would like to think that this is true. However, I am persuaded to believe that such an undertaking is a fool's errand. It seems that all we can hope for is something like a consensus (the majority of film critics in the world think that "Citizen Kane" is better than "Twilight") rather than a definitive answer.

It also plays into the whole "should" thing - that a film should be this way or that way. There is no "should," all you are really stating is preferences: saying "I would prefer that a Godzilla film be produced in this manner," vs. saying "a Godzilla film should be produced in this manner." That to me takes all of the anger and rancor out of it, and then it becomes a much more interesting - and less polarizing - discussion, IMO.
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