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Godzilla and King Kong Up In Smoke At Universal?

Postby armandv » Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:36 am

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Postby Andrew Nguyen » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:58 pm

I got no problem with anybody who jumps into a Starfury and rides fire! (Babylon 5)
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Postby Baradagi » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:28 am

"We have duplicates of everything," said Ron Meyer, NBC Universal president and chief operating officer. "Nothing is lost forever."

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Postby August » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:25 am

Actually, they lost all of the Archival Prints, but the negatives are stored elsewhere.
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Postby walshbeme » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:40 am

Good news about the negatives. Other studios that do not follow this wise precaution can learn a thing or two from Universal. As I've said in the past, it's very sad (at least to me) that Toho did not take action to locate and preserve Titra (which I will refer to from this point on as "american" dubbed films as opposed to Hong Kong or Australian "english" or "international") prints that have been lost. Those films that Titra did are every bit as much, if not more, important as the source they came from a nostalgic, if not artistic perspective (I'm one of those that consider dubbing and art form, sorry purists). It was those films I grew up with and love. Titra was surely the best at what they did.
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From The Los Angeles Times

Postby armandv » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:27 pm



Destruction of the copies could affect several upcoming screenings at museums and other sites.

By John Horn and Susan King

Los Angeles Times Staff Writers

June 4, 2008

In addition to the ruined "King Kong" attraction and the burned New York street scapes, the Universal Studios Hollywood fire has claimed another casualty: perhaps hundreds of classic 35-millimeter film prints, the studio said Tuesday.

The prints were high-quality copies of decades-old movies, not original masters, which are stored in a Philadelphia vault, the studio said. But the loss of the copies in Universal's scorched vault building, which the studio had not yet quantified, could affect several upcoming screenings of classic films at museums, festivals and repertory theaters.

"It's a real shame. The timing couldn't be worse," said Bernardo Rondeau, the coordinator of film programs at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art. As part of July's "The Discreet Charm of Charles Boyer" program, LACMA was scheduled to show the French-born actor's 1941 film "Hold Back the Dawn."

The print of that movie, which was originally released by Paramount but is part of Universal's archival collection, was being transferred from New York's Lincoln Center to the Los Angeles museum and may have been in the Universal vault when the predawn blaze broke out Sunday.

Making new film prints can cost $5,000 or more each and take months to produce.

The fire also claimed about 5% of Universal Music Group's recordings, primarily big band and jazz recordings on the Decca label, and video copies of Universal movies and television shows. Universal Music Group is no longer part of the NBC conglomerate but rents storage space from the studio.

LACMA's Rondeau said the museum was nearly finished preparing the schedule for its July 11-26 festival and still planned to include "Hold Back the Dawn" on the slate, hoping that the film was spared or that a substitute print could be located.

In an e-mail sent to several dozen film exhibitors Monday, Universal said the "fire destroyed nearly 100% of the archive prints kept here on the lot. Due to this we will be unable to honor any film bookings of prints that were set to ship from here. Over the next few weeks and months, we will be able to try and piece together what material we do have and if any prints exist elsewhere."

Jan-Christopher Horak, the director of UCLA Film and Television Archive, said that in addition to the uncertainty surrounding "Hold Back the Dawn," the status of several other classic film prints was murky but not as bad as once feared.

"Initially, with the flood of e-mails [asking for prints], the situation seemed more dire than it turned out to be," Horak said. "Universal did find prints on some stuff."

American Cinematheque, which operates the Egyptian Theatre and Aero Theatre, had booked prints of "Her Jungle Love" and "Aloma of the South Seas" (both Paramount films with Dorothy Lamour), and now Universal will not be able to provide the 35-millimeter prints, Horak said.

"It is upsetting," said Horak, who once worked at Universal. "I feed bad for my colleagues at Universal. I was in that vault. It was filled with stuff. It's going to take quite a while to assess what really was lost."
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Postby August » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:24 pm

I just got word that the 35mm archival rental print of KING KONG ESCAPES was destroyed in the fire.
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Postby MouthForWar » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:42 pm

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Postby armandv » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:47 pm

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Postby August » Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:41 am

It shouldn't; how many times a year do you think they rent this title (or other older films)?
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Postby RyanClark » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:02 am

I'm all for the preservation of films on actual prints, but this may be more of a reason to go to a digital-only format. As anyone who attended G-Fest 14 would probably agree, the projected DVDs of King Kong vs. Godzilla and King Kong Escapes looked fantastic.
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