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Ideas For Gamera 4

Spinning flame-jetted turtles, space birds being chopped up like bologna, kids in shorts screaming for help...the original Gamera series was a strange mix of wacky fun!! The 90's Gamera films set a standard that other kaiju films are measured against! Discuss Gamera films here!!

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Postby Temjin » Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:56 pm

How about a futuristic revival?

Another Gamera awakens in semi-futuristic Tokyo and goes on a rampage, while a scientist goes on to discover the source of its' rage.

Meanwhile, a fossilized DNA sample is used to bring about a monstrous creature who slowly and steadily evolves into an even stronger creature, and the source of the new Gamera's rage. They battle until one's left standing and that ends that...until we get a realiy check and the Gyaos invade Tokyo, which triggers a flashback, where we see what happened to the last Gamera(G3) and the result of that scurmish(think WW3 but with the world v.s. the Gyaos army) and why the world had to rebuild and become the technological powerhouse it's become.

From there, we can see Gamera battle the Gyaos Queen or King(if the director wants a sequel, Gamera goes for the King then hints that he goes after the queen at the end), and whoever the new "vessel" is explains Gamera's true intentions and we cut to credits....


Or, they can continue G3 and show is how the world battles the Gyaos with Gamera's help, and during the Battle, Gamera sacrifices itself in destroying the Gyaos army and the Queen. However, a new evil takes advantage of Gamera's absense and attacks, leading to the creation of a defense task force to combat the new threat. Little do they know that another Gamera has been born undergound and has fed off of the original's power, making it stronger, faster, and more lethal than any monster seen so far, and it makes its' presense known later in the film when it totals the city while defeating the new monster.

Now with no human vessel to help it grow and a large amount of power within it, the new Gamera flies off into the sky, waiting for the next chance to attack....


my thoughts:
The first one's sci-fi, with some horror thrown into the mix with the monster, maybe some sort of mutant creature that's been enhanced by science. Also, we can add the basic hottie/intelligent scientist-detective in there, as well as a paleontologist or special agent for her to interact with, and the "vessel", who could pretty much be any young teenager. Also, there has to be an "all-knowing" mystery figure to let them know what's going on, as well as an evil scientist bent on seeing his/her creation reach its' peak. Also, the army'd have an even better arsenal after dealing with the Gyaos invasion, so some high-tech gadgets would be in order.

The story'd need some top-level actors, some models or pop singers(who can act and bring publicity to the movie) as the vessel and the heroine , and some high-end special effects(at least better than G3's) for it to work, since it's based in the future(so the cities would have to have some futuristic flavor to it, like giant sky-scrapers, holo-phones, the standard "Blade Runner" feel.) and would probably work for a wide audience.

The second story is more casual, the standard Gamera fare. It's almost like G4(the unofficial movie), with the exception that the new Gamera's been overhauled and made into a monster, who isn't that concerned with the well-being of humanity, but only with the complete destruction of it's competition. Also, the story gets more dramatic withthe inclusion of Hero Gamera's on-screen death, and the birth of Anti-hero Gamera at the film's climax. When we learn of the new Gamera's

In both ideas, I tried to bring closure to the Gyaos storyline, but left it open for some plot twist that may bring them back("the Gyaos are Gamera's eternal rivals, since as long as he exists in some form, so will they" - G3)

So there... :lol: :D :oops:

EDIT:BTW, the storylines and my thoughts were copy-paste from an article I wrote on my PC.....just thought I'd share 'em instead of letting them stay on my desktop... :D
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Postby Temjin » Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:02 pm

I agree with you thre: G3 ended just fine and left it up to the audience to think about.

G3 was pefectly filmed IMO, so I don't think G4 should reflect anything there.

What would be good, for dramatic purposes, would be to say that there was a Gamera, but he died through some huge event(like saving the world from something) and that humanity feels less threatened by his existence rather than afraid.

It's highly unlikely that the Gyaos won't be referenced, and won't be seen - They're the only kaiju to ,not only be referenced, but seen in most Gamera movies. I think a revival of a Showa kaiu would make more sense, or create a whole new Gamera to usher in a new era for the series(hence my 1st Gamera story).

I just hope it sticks to its' realistic roots...but with more flair and pizzaz of course ;)........
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Postby Aaron Smith » Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:28 am

Posted this on the main site but Kadokawa-Daiei's new studio HQ is now completed and guess who graces one of the buildings? :)

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Postby Temjin » Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:44 am

I hope that movie is, in fact, in pre-production, because Kadokawa has an opening they have to take. With Godzilla leaving the picture, they can take over Toho's territory and get themselves established as a movie powerhouse.

They already have the right ideas and the means to do it, and they have the only other Kaiju to score just as high or maybe even higher, than Godzilla: Gamera. If they play their cards right, Gamera could re-establish the Kaiju genre as a major player in Japan, and with the announcement of a possible international Ultraman movie, maybe even the world.

I did some research and kadokawa's got a good reputation for spewing out hits...but in anime and manga. Their first foray into multimedia distribution wouldn't be Gamera, but other non-kaiju films Kadokawa wants to push before unleashing it.

I'm gonna see if I can get someone into Kadokawa to update me on some of that....Since it's just starting, I'm sure their willing to take in interns..... :D :P

Cross your fingers for some news late this year.....
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Postby Temjin » Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:33 am

Well, that doesn't rule out "Godzilla X Gamera" sometime in the near future.... :lol: :D

I'm guessing the Atari guys are a bit mistaken.....Gamera belongs to Kadokawa now, unless Toho paid big money for it after Kadokawa drew him on their wall :P......

Besides, what can TOHO do? Can they make him bigger than he was in G3?

IF IN FACT Toho acquired Gamera, then it has something to do with Gamera's 50th...and it's a funny coincidence that, just as Godzilla's "leaving" , Toho acquires his biggest rival(in terms of Kaiju star-power) and plans to make its' movies...

SO..... Kadokawa's a production company, and maybe TOHO's only going to distribute it.....

As for ATARI, they've been wrong before, and they've had loose lips for stuff that's only on paper(they said King Seesar was going to be in DAMM two months before its' release, but was cut in the final build, they claimed Kiryu was going to be in both versions(US and Japan), but he was integrated late into the Xbox game's cycle, but not in the Gamecube version(supposedly because he wasn't known here yet, when in reality, Nintendo pressured them to release the game "as-is", since they felt it was ready and they needed more launch titles).


So don't take anything they say for granted, yet...Let's see what STE has in store for us first and make careful assumptions later.
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Postby Temjin » Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:19 pm

/\ Gamera has a lot of potential, being it a technological edge or a story-driven ideal...

If memory serves me right, there was a Gamera v.s. Barugon manga out somewhere....I forgot where....but Barugon looked extremely evil and it got me thinking: What if he received a similar makeover, but with some added magic from CG?

Same would go for Guiron, I guess....

My guess is a Barugon revival isn't too far off......The signs are there: Interest from Kadokawa Shoten, who owns the rights to the manga, who just happens to be Gamera's home production company.
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Postby Temjin » Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:09 pm

I think for G's 60th that might be a reality.......When Gamera grows up, he'll(K.D. Studios) have the leeway needed to get any monster possible to battle him - even King Kong.

Let's hope for the best in that case.
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