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Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby RichCo » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:27 pm

I mean, this is HUGE!

We're looking to have get it ALL!!!!!!!

now we need to figure out how to pay for it all!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OW, My wallet!
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby lhb412 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:55 pm

I'm extraordinarily happy. Shows and movies!

Can't wait to see the shows that have been unavailable and to own favorites I've watched on Crunchyroll through the years.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby Benjamin Haines » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:05 pm

The Official Mill Creek Ultraman Freakout Thread is located in the Daikaiju Home Media Releases forum. The current freakout subject is English dubbing. Up next, pre-order pricing!
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby O.Supreme » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:33 pm

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh FREAK OUT!

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I think the level of Freaking (good or ill), is pretty significant. I mean these titles made news on Bluray.com. I think while some of us disagree on the minutiae, I think everyone here is thrilled for this, haven't seen one person outright say they think this is horrible news.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby lhb412 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:34 pm

I appreciated getting Ultra Q, Ultraman, and Ultraseven on DVD all those years ago even though they were crummy Chaiyo copies which were, at best, merely serviceable. Can't wait to see proper, quality versions of them.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby Gojira07 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:33 am

This is perfect because I'm FINALLY, after 20 years of loving Kaiju - understanding and appreciating Ultraman. So this is perfect for me, EXCEPT that I just sank like $60 on the Malaysian DVDs of Ultraman, Return, and Taro. Oh well, happy to double dip.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby Dr Kain » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:06 am

Gojira07 wrote:This is perfect because I'm FINALLY, after 20 years of loving Kaiju - understanding and appreciating Ultraman. So this is perfect for me, EXCEPT that I just sank like $60 on the Malaysian DVDs of Ultraman, Return, and Taro. Oh well, happy to double dip.


Why would you support bootlegs?
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

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Believe it or not, Kain, gray areas exist.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby O.Supreme » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:21 am

They are officially licensed Malaysian DVD. Calling them bootlegs would be tantamount to calling S!F Ultra Q and Ultraseven DVD releases bootlegs. I have the "Return of", Ace, Taro, and Jumborg Ace sets. I was happy with them, because I figured we'd never get them any other way, and they have subtitles. Of course I spent far less ($15 each). It's a better deal than say...spending hundreds of dollars on Super Sentai that have no subs, then double dipping later...
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby Gojira07 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:00 pm

Dr Kain wrote:
Gojira07 wrote:This is perfect because I'm FINALLY, after 20 years of loving Kaiju - understanding and appreciating Ultraman. So this is perfect for me, EXCEPT that I just sank like $60 on the Malaysian DVDs of Ultraman, Return, and Taro. Oh well, happy to double dip.


Why would you support bootlegs?



Because the Malaysian DVDs are NOT bootlegs, and until this announcement, where the only decent way to get them in physical formats in the states.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby lhb412 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:43 pm

I remember that issue of G-fan I had as a teen, I think it was from 2001, that listed every single Ultra TV show, movie, special, everything up to that point along with a short synopsis and a little background info (date, number of episodes, etc.). The fact that I might actually be able to see most of this stuff is quite surreal. Can't wait.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby hanshotfirst1138 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:10 pm

My excitement is tempered by the fact that Mill Creek have had a few less-than-stellar presentations on some of their releases over the years. Oh, and the amount I spent on the Tiga DVDs on eBay ;).
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby lhb412 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:55 pm

^ Mill Creek is limited by the materials their licensors give them. Nevertheless, there's a stratification within their brand from deluxe releases, like their kaiju Blu-rays, and their usual budget releases intended for $5 to $10 bins.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby Dr Kain » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:12 am

hanshotfirst1138 wrote:My excitement is tempered by the fact that Mill Creek have had a few less-than-stellar presentations on some of their releases over the years. Oh, and the amount I spent on the Tiga DVDs on eBay ;).


I know I gave Mill Creek a lot of "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" when it was first revealed they were releasing Mothra, but honestly, I don't see how they are any different than Shout! Factory or Discotek at this point. They are always trying to do right by the fanbase.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby lhb412 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:33 am

When the whole Gamera 3 Blu-ray subtitle snafu happened all those years ago they really did right with their disc replacement program and had some of the nicest, my most convenient customer service I've ever dealt with.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby hanshotfirst1138 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:19 pm

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hanshotfirst1138 wrote:My excitement is tempered by the fact that Mill Creek have had a few less-than-stellar presentations on some of their releases over the years. Oh, and the amount I spent on the Tiga DVDs on eBay ;).


I know I gave Mill Creek a lot of "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" when it was first revealed they were releasing Mothra, but honestly, I don't see how they are any different than Shout! Factory or Discotek at this point. They are always trying to do right by the fanbase.


Oh, I’m willing to give them some benefit of the doubt (Apparently their Mothra release was pretty solid) some of the time. We’ll see how this goes. But they have made some poor decisions in the past, let’s face it.

lhb412 wrote:^ Mill Creek is limited by the materials their licensors give them. Nevertheless, there's a stratification within their brand from deluxe releases, like their kaiju Blu-rays, and their usual budget releases intended for $5 to $10 bins.


I find it pretty hard to believe that they were given masters for the Gamera films which weren’t 24p, although I fully concede that you could be right. It seems more like it was just a bargain release, and they did the amount of work accorded to that. Look, it’s going away the best I’ve seen the films look, but cramming four films into a single disc without encoring them at 24p is not a decision that’ll make fans jump for joy. Now, maybe with the financial resources available to them, they simply had no choice, I don’t know, but I don’t think there’s any way around it being an inferior product.


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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby Dr Kain » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:30 pm

I just realized something, it was Echo Bridge I was thinking of when it was announced that Mill Creek had Mothra.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby O.Supreme » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:01 pm

Understandable, Echo Bridge puts out a LOT of shoddy product. But their release of Godzilla vs Biollante was a labor of love by one of the employees at that company, as he openly communicated with fans such as myself, and many others, on another forum. We even had emails going back and forth. he was always a consummate professional. IIRC I believe you may have had some issues with the audio on that release which is unfortunate, but believe me, it could have been far worse (not sure if the later Lionsgate release fixed those issues or not). But he did confess there were some things beyond his control, like his inability to get Ed G's commentary on there, which unfortunately may never be released to the public.

But Mill Creek isn't perfect either. I'll still support their releases, but at this point, nothing in terms of content/bonuses is guaranteed.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby lhb412 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:18 am

hanshotfirst1138 wrote:
I find it pretty hard to believe that they were given masters for the Gamera films which weren’t 24p, although I fully concede that you could be right.


The Showa Gamera transfers they were given were 1080i instead of the full 1080p.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby hanshotfirst1138 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:10 am

lhb412 wrote:
hanshotfirst1138 wrote:
I find it pretty hard to believe that they were given masters for the Gamera films which weren’t 24p, although I fully concede that you could be right.


The Showa Gamera transfers they were given were 1080i instead of the full 1080p.


Man, that was really crappy of Daiei!


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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby Dr Kain » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:29 am

O.Supreme wrote:Understandable, Echo Bridge puts out a LOT of shoddy product. But their release of Godzilla vs Biollante was a labor of love by one of the employees at that company, as he openly communicated with fans such as myself, and many others, on another forum. We even had emails going back and forth. he was always a consummate professional. IIRC I believe you may have had some issues with the audio on that release which is unfortunate, but believe me, it could have been far worse (not sure if the later Lionsgate release fixed those issues or not). But he did confess there were some things beyond his control, like his inability to get Ed G's commentary on there, which unfortunately may never be released to the public.

But Mill Creek isn't perfect either. I'll still support their releases, but at this point, nothing in terms of content/bonuses is guaranteed.


Yeah, but as you said, they put out a lot of shoddy product, and that is what I'm referring to. They couldn't even be bothered to make sure their Halloween 3 pack had the movies in their proper aspect ratios.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby UltramanGoji » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:28 am

Dr Kain wrote:
Gojira07 wrote:This is perfect because I'm FINALLY, after 20 years of loving Kaiju - understanding and appreciating Ultraman. So this is perfect for me, EXCEPT that I just sank like $60 on the Malaysian DVDs of Ultraman, Return, and Taro. Oh well, happy to double dip.


Why would you support bootlegs?


Because this is a fandom where 90% of the content is locked behind region exclusivity and the only way to ever experience it is to go through less-than-legal means since most corporations don't really care about an audience outside their primary release region.

It's important to support official releases, but I have no loyalty to any company, not even Toho or Tsuburaya. If they don't want me to see one of their films/shows through legal means, I'm going to pirate.

As Valve's Gabe Newell said, "piracy is a service problem."
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby Dr Kain » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:06 pm

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Dr Kain wrote:
Gojira07 wrote:This is perfect because I'm FINALLY, after 20 years of loving Kaiju - understanding and appreciating Ultraman. So this is perfect for me, EXCEPT that I just sank like $60 on the Malaysian DVDs of Ultraman, Return, and Taro. Oh well, happy to double dip.


Why would you support bootlegs?


Because this is a fandom where 90% of the content is locked behind region exclusivity and the only way to ever experience it is to go through less-than-legal means since most corporations don't really care about an audience outside their primary release region.

It's important to support official releases, but I have no loyalty to any company, not even Toho or Tsuburaya. If they don't want me to see one of their films/shows through legal means, I'm going to pirate.

As Valve's Gabe Newell said, "piracy is a service problem."


I was more referring to why you would have sank $60 in bootleg DVDs instead of just downloading them for free. Every Toku series that has subtitles can be downloaded at this point, there is no reason to ever hand money over to greedy pirates.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby lhb412 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:36 pm

Hey, I bought the Chaiyo-licensed DVDs of Q, Ultraman, and Seven and enjoyed them. I wasn't pleased with the circumstances, but they were the most accessible way to watch those shows and there was no indication the rights nightmare would be resolved anytime soon one way or another.
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Re: Why are we not freaking out about Mill Creek?

Postby Dr Kain » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:59 pm

lhb412 wrote:Hey, I bought the Chaiyo-licensed DVDs of Q, Ultraman, and Seven and enjoyed them. I wasn't pleased with the circumstances, but they were the most accessible way to watch those shows and there was no indication the rights nightmare would be resolved anytime soon one way or another.


Uh, I'm talking about the Malaysian bootlegs for the other Ultra shows. :P
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