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Re: Universal Monsters thread?

Postby mr.negativity » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:39 am


THR NOVEMBER 08, 2017:
Universal's "Monsterverse" in Peril as Top Producers Exit (Exclusive)
Borys Kit & Aaron Couch wrote:Universal's cinematic Dark Universe is in danger of being mummified.

Just five months after Universal released a much-discussed cast photo promising a slew of movies starring the likes of Johnny Depp, Russell Crowe and Javier Bardem — all drawn on characters like the Invisible Man, Wolf Man and Frankenstein in its stable of classic horror films — none of the projects appears to have a pulse.

Writer-producers Alex Kurtzman and Chris Morgan, who were hired as the monster universe architects, have departed the franchise, sources tell The Hollywood Reporter. Kurtzman, whose deal with Universal lapsed in September, is focusing on television (he's an executive producer on CBS All Access' Star Trek: Discovery, and his overall deal with CBS involves more than a half-dozen shows), while Morgan has returned to the Fast and Furious franchise and is writing a spinoff for Dwayne Johnson and Jason Statham.

In early October, Universal pulled the plug on preproduction that had started in London for Bride of Frankenstein — which was to have followed The Mummy as the second entry in the series — partly because execs felt the script by David Koepp and overseen by director Bill Condon wasn't ready. Angelina Jolie had been courted for the lead but is now not attached. Insiders insist Condon (Beauty and the Beast) remains attached, but no date has been set to resume work, and a Feb. 14, 2019, release has been shelved.

All this comes in the wake of Mummy's poor performance. Released in June, the Tom Cruise picture grossed a relatively paltry $409 million worldwide on a budget of $125 million-plus (some insiders place it considerably higher). That doesn't include marketing costs of at least $100 million.

Emblematic of Dark Universe's problems is the tony office building on the Universal lot that was revamped at considerable expense for the new venture. After being decked out in monster regalia, it now sits mostly empty.

Universal is exploring its options. One road involves offering the IP to high-profile filmmakers or producers (Jason Blum has been mentioned) with ideas for one-off movies not connected to a larger universe. And the studio could find a new architect who could overhaul the concept.

"We've learned many lessons throughout the creative process on Dark Universe so far, and we are viewing these titles as filmmaker-driven vehicles, each with their own distinct vision," says Universal president of production Peter Cramer. "We are not rushing to meet a release date and will move forward with these films when we feel they are the best versions of themselves."

The Mummy aside, the studio has had big wins in 2017. It boasts two $1 billion grossers (April's Fate of the Furious and July's Despicable Me 3), while sleeper hits like M. Night Shyamalan's Split ($278 million on a $9 million budget) and Jordan Peele's Get Out ($253 million on a $4.5 million budget) earned critical and commercial praise.

For Morgan and Kurtzman, it makes sense to move away from Dark Universe and back to Fast and Star Trek, note observers.

"This affords Alex Kurtzman more time for a project that is really working well: Star Trek Discovery," says New York-based freelance critic Jordan Hoffman, host of the official Star Trek podcast, who was in attendance of a Mummy screening that elicited unintended laughter from the crowd.

Is there hope for the Dark Universe? Yes, says comScore box-office analyst Paul Dergarabedian, pointing to Marvel and Sony's Spider-Man: Homecoming success after the franchise had lost its footing with 2014's Amazing Spider-Man 2 or Marvel's Thor: Ragnarok, which had an opening weekend that outperformed the two previous Chris Hemsworth-led solo outings. "It's never too late to course-correct," he says, "because with each movie, you get another shot."

"There's no way to give up on this. This is Universal's legacy," he adds.
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Re: Universal's Dark Universe

Postby Benjamin Haines » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:26 am

Benjamin Haines on June 13, 2017 wrote:It begins... the conflation of the Monsterverse and the Dark Universe in the public consciousness.

mr.negativity wrote:
Borys Kit & Aaron Couch wrote:Universal's "Monsterverse" in Peril as Top Producers Exit (Exclusive)


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Re: Universal Monsters thread?

Postby mr.negativity » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:08 pm

Screen Rant 01/23/2018:
Invisible Man Reboot Loses Writer As Dark Universe is Reconfigured
David Stephens wrote:Universal Pictures’ Dark Universe franchise has taken yet another serious step backwards, as screenwriter Ed Solomon confirms that he is no longer working on The Invisible Man movie reboot. The film was tentatively slated to arrive in 2020 and star Johnny Depp, but comments from Solomon suggest that the whole concept is being radically rethought.

Genre fans were suitably excited when Universal announced the concept of the monster-sharing Dark Universe, which would introduce reboots of its stable of creatures and characters. This was to have been kick-started by Tom Cruise’s The Mummy, and lead into updated versions of Bride of Frankenstein, The Invisible Man, and The Wolf Man. However, the critical panning of The Mummy and underwhelming box-office led the studio to put a brake on its planned schedule. The problems were further compounded by the departure of the Dark Universe ‘showrunners’ Alex Kurtzman and Chris Morgan, who moved on to other projects. Although no official announcement has been made by Universal and the Dark Universe still exists in concept, most of the film community have already presumed that the franchise is dead.

Johnny Depp was first announced as the lead for the planned reboot of The Invisible Man in 2016. Prolific screenwriter Solomon, who also scribed the screenplays for the Now You See Me and Bill & Ted films, had been attempting to write a update of the story that was faithful to the spirit of H.G. Wells novel. However while speaking to Digital Spy, the writer revealed that he has left the project, saying:
“At the end of the day, I think Universal and I had a different idea of what the movie was gonna be. We began thinking that our notions would meld, and I should’ve listened more closely to what they really were wanting…I think Universal has had to come to a kind of reckoning of, ‘What are we doing with the Dark Universe?’ and, ‘What is our real intention with it?’, and I think they’re reconfiguring it now, which I think is probably good…So I’m not working on it.”


With the reception given to The Mummy and the other recent departures, Solomon’s comments are no great surprise. It does leave a massive question mark still hanging over the Dark Universe though, and where it goes from here. It sounds like Universal may still be trying to get to get the franchise off the ground. Interesting, recent rumors suggest that Brian Condon’s version of Bride of Frankenstein may still be alive, with Javier Bardem attached to play Frankenstein’s monster. However, even if the film does happen, it is rumored to be distancing itself from the Dark Universe logo.

As far as the rest of the planned reboots go, it looks like The Invisible Man certainly has been at least delayed for the moment. Further information for other projects like The Wolf Man and The Creature from the Black Lagoon is also conspicuous in its absence. But if Universal are actively ‘reconfiguring‘ the planned franchise, we can probably expect some kind of update in the coming months.
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Re: Universal Monsters thread?

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Re: Universal Monsters thread?

Postby mr.negativity » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:57 am

Screen Rant 03/10/2018:
Shape of Water Producer J. Miles Dale Mulls Idea of Entering Universal’s Dark Universe
Timothy Lammers wrote:Speaking with Screen Rant prior to last week’s Oscars, Dale talked about any potential interest he and del Toro have in taking over the Dark Universe if the opportunity presents itself. Dale said:
“We haven’t really talked about it. I’ve made seven movies for Universal and know and love them well, and they’re doing their own thing now after The Mummy. It’s interesting, Guillermo actually pitched them a version of this movie (The Shape of Water), of a remake of Creature, but I think at a certain point when they heard that the girl and the monster get it on, they were like, ‘OK, here’s your parking validation. You can go now.’ It’s a very strong IP (intellectual property) for them and they’re going to do whatever they want. It’s such a bigger project (for them), but we haven’t really talked about it. I know (Guillermo) has thoughts on all those movies. He’s got thoughts on Frankenstein, he’s had thoughts on Bride, and certainly he’s not going to be remaking Creature from the Black Lagoon now, I feel he’s done his version of that. But we haven’t talked about it and certainly wish them luck.”


With the idea out there, perhaps Dale and del Toro will find time to at entertain the conversation between the two of them, if not eventually with Universal. After all, del Toro was given the opportunity once before to tap into the studio’s classic monster library (which he regretfully passed on), but now, with two Oscars and boatload of other awards including the top Directors Guild of America award, he can undoubtedly shape the creative direction of the film series in any way he sees fit.
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Re: Universal Monsters thread?

Postby mr.negativity » Fri May 18, 2018 9:29 am

Screen Rant:
Universal's Dark Universe Might Not Be Dead After All

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The Russo Brothers Say “Don’t Do It” When Asked About Shared Cinematic Universes
Charles Barfield wrote:In an interview on the Playback podcast (via Variety), Joe Russo has a warning for those people interested in building a cinematic universe.

“Yeah, don’t do it,” Joe Russo says. “Not everything can be sustained through a cinematic universe.”
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