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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Dr Kain » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:00 am

Rumors are circling that Criterion is working on Dawn of the Dead.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby lhb412 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:24 am

^ Ha! Figures, what with me just getting the out-of-print DVD!
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:31 pm

Dr Kain wrote:So I contacted DIsney on the disc like two week's ago and they just responded to me now with this:

*snip*

I have no idea what the hell they are even talking about. My PS3 is connected to the receiver via HDMI, so why would I even be using RCA or the red, white yellow cables?


Double check the audio settings on the PS3 make sure you have it set up to come out of the HDMI.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Dr Kain » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:10 pm

Tom R VanSlambrouck wrote:
Dr Kain wrote:So I contacted DIsney on the disc like two week's ago and they just responded to me now with this:

*snip*

I have no idea what the hell they are even talking about. My PS3 is connected to the receiver via HDMI, so why would I even be using RCA or the red, white yellow cables?


Double check the audio settings on the PS3 make sure you have it set up to come out of the HDMI.


Well seeing as how the PS3 is only connected via HDMI and everything comes out of it via HDMI, there is nothing to check. Hell, if I don't change my receiver to HDMI 2 I can't even watch/play stuff on my PS3 since that is the channel my PS3 is plugged into on the receiver.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:20 pm

Dr Kain wrote:
Tom R VanSlambrouck wrote:
Dr Kain wrote:So I contacted DIsney on the disc like two week's ago and they just responded to me now with this:

*snip*

I have no idea what the hell they are even talking about. My PS3 is connected to the receiver via HDMI, so why would I even be using RCA or the red, white yellow cables?


Double check the audio settings on the PS3 make sure you have it set up to come out of the HDMI.


Well seeing as how the PS3 is only connected via HDMI and everything comes out of it via HDMI, there is nothing to check. Hell, if I don't change my receiver to HDMI 2 I can't even watch/play stuff on my PS3 since that is the channel my PS3 is plugged into on the receiver.


You still might have to change the PS3 settings to get the uncompressed audio via HDMI they usually aren't turned on by default.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Dr Kain » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:55 am

Tom R VanSlambrouck wrote:You still might have to change the PS3 settings to get the uncompressed audio via HDMI they usually aren't turned on by default.


I did that years ago. I'm getting the uncompressed audio. My receiver even states such on it. Disney just doesn't understand technology in 2018.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:03 am

Have you tried using the PS4 instead of the PS3?
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Dr Kain » Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:06 am

Tom R VanSlambrouck wrote:Have you tried using the PS4 instead of the PS3?


My PS4 doesn't do audio correctly as it outputs everthing as LPCM instead of Dolby True HD or DTS Master Audio. Plus, I don't use the PS4 because Sony never made an actual remote control like they did with the PS3.

Lastly, as stated earlier, the issue is not my set up, but Disney's lack of being able to author the disc audio properly.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:29 pm

I'm hoping that's something they fix with the 4K releases for older titles but based on the reviews I've seen for the first Avengers and Age of Ultron it doesn't appear so :\

It doesn't affect me yet as I don't have proper sound setup but when I get my own place next year or so that's something I want implement. Most likely a dolby atmos set up.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby canofhumdingers » Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:30 am

So what's wrong with Disney disc audio, aside from being too quiet (which kinda seems ironic... hasn't the complaint with the music industry long been the "loudness Wars" where everything was too loud which destroyed dynamic range)?
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:47 am

canofhumdingers wrote:So what's wrong with Disney disc audio, aside from being too quiet (which kinda seems ironic... hasn't the complaint with the music industry long been the "loudness Wars" where everything was too loud which destroyed dynamic range)?

It's....too....quiet...?


Like, that's a big enough complaint. When watching on my TV, it can be actually difficult to hear, even at incredibly high volumes. The mix is garbage. Look up some reviews for Disney discs, they'll quite regularly say that they're "fine" and these are people watching in absolutely ideal conditions. Sorry, but perfectly set up surround system in a perfectly quiet room with excellent acoustics isn't how most people watch stuff. We're in our living rooms.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby canofhumdingers » Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:00 pm

I’m not saying that being too quiet isn’t a legitimate complaint. It just sounded from the discussion that maybe there were other issues as well that hadn’t been elaborated on. Felt like I might’ve been missing something.

And I just think it’s funny that the general audio complaint has gone from “everything’s too loud!” to “everything’s too quiet!” In either case dynamic range is lost.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Dr Kain » Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:46 pm

canofhumdingers wrote:I’m not saying that being too quiet isn’t a legitimate complaint. It just sounded from the discussion that maybe there were other issues as well that hadn’t been elaborated on. Felt like I might’ve been missing something.

And I just think it’s funny that the general audio complaint has gone from “everything’s too loud!” to “everything’s too quiet!” In either case dynamic range is lost.


It's not a case of everything just sounding too quiet, it's a case of how the hell can a DVD movie with compressed audio have superior audio to that of a BD with uncompressed audio?
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby canofhumdingers » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:39 pm

Dr Kain wrote:
canofhumdingers wrote:I’m not saying that being too quiet isn’t a legitimate complaint. It just sounded from the discussion that maybe there were other issues as well that hadn’t been elaborated on. Felt like I might’ve been missing something.

And I just think it’s funny that the general audio complaint has gone from “everything’s too loud!” to “everything’s too quiet!” In either case dynamic range is lost.


It's not a case of everything just sounding too quiet, it's a case of how the hell can a DVD movie with compressed audio have superior audio to that of a BD with uncompressed audio?


See, that’s what I’m trying to ask... WHAT is worse about the BD audio? Is it distorted? Does it have audio compression artfacting? Other than the volume levels, what else is wrong with it? I have plenty of Marvel, Lucasfilm, and Disney BD’s and I’ve never noticed anything wrong with the audio*. But I don’t have the two discs you specifically mention (Ironman or Black Panther).

I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just genuinely curious and would like more specific information about the problem.



*i do notice that I often have to turn my volume higher on my sound bar when watching discs than when watching streaming sources, but that seems to be pretty universal across all disc media. And it’s not THAT drastic. Like streaming stuff I’ll have the volume in the range around 20 to 25 and for discs it’ll range from the high twenties to the mid thirties. And the setting goes to at LEAST 50, maybe more (I’ve never turned it all the way up to find out). Across all media, the lowest I ever have my volume is in the high teens and the highest I’ve ever needed it is in the upper thirties. Discs that fall under the Disney umbrella might tend to fall in the higher end of that range, but again, I’ve never had a disc where I thought it was so drastically different from the norm that it seemed like something was wrong.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Dr Kain » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:46 pm

Well for Black Panther and Iron Man 1, I have little to no activity coming out of my subwoover and rear speakers. When Iron man gets thrown into the bus in the first movie, there's very little oomph to his impact. The explosions sound very quiet too as if someone turned the volume down to -38 on my receiver so you could barely hear them. In Black Panther, the gun fire during the casino scene was quite rich in the theaters. You could feel the bullets hitting all around. On the BD, I see bullets flying, I hear them flying, but I don't feel them flying. Same goes for when the rhinos are running during the last battle. Also, BP himself is speaking in whispers.

On most movies, I only have to turn my receiver up to -18 to get great audio. On BP, IM, and a couple of more recent movies, I've got to turn my receiver up tot -12. If it is something in stereo, I have to go to -8 or -10.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:12 pm

Dr Kain wrote:Well for Black Panther and Iron Man 1, I have little to no activity coming out of my subwoover and rear speakers. When Iron man gets thrown into the bus in the first movie, there's very little oomph to his impact. The explosions sound very quiet too as if someone turned the volume down to -38 on my receiver so you could barely hear them. In Black Panther, the gun fire during the casino scene was quite rich in the theaters. You could feel the bullets hitting all around. On the BD, I see bullets flying, I hear them flying, but I don't feel them flying. Same goes for when the rhinos are running during the last battle. Also, BP himself is speaking in whispers.

On most movies, I only have to turn my receiver up to -18 to get great audio. On BP, IM, and a couple of more recent movies, I've got to turn my receiver up tot -12. If it is something in stereo, I have to go to -8 or -10.


With the Black Panther issue you're having you probably got a Dolby Atmos mix in the theater hence why you could hear all that stuff. So when you watch it at home you're losing the "height" channels hence why you wouldn't hear bullets whizzing by you or the rhinos charging by. I bet if you invested in a Dolby Atmos receiver and some height channel speakers you'd have a much better sound experience. Though you may also have to upgrade you're player to something that supports Atmos output.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Dr Kain » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:41 pm

Tom R VanSlambrouck wrote:
Dr Kain wrote:Well for Black Panther and Iron Man 1, I have little to no activity coming out of my subwoover and rear speakers. When Iron man gets thrown into the bus in the first movie, there's very little oomph to his impact. The explosions sound very quiet too as if someone turned the volume down to -38 on my receiver so you could barely hear them. In Black Panther, the gun fire during the casino scene was quite rich in the theaters. You could feel the bullets hitting all around. On the BD, I see bullets flying, I hear them flying, but I don't feel them flying. Same goes for when the rhinos are running during the last battle. Also, BP himself is speaking in whispers.

On most movies, I only have to turn my receiver up to -18 to get great audio. On BP, IM, and a couple of more recent movies, I've got to turn my receiver up tot -12. If it is something in stereo, I have to go to -8 or -10.


With the Black Panther issue you're having you probably got a Dolby Atmos mix in the theater hence why you could hear all that stuff. So when you watch it at home you're losing the "height" channels hence why you wouldn't hear bullets whizzing by you or the rhinos charging by. I bet if you invested in a Dolby Atmos receiver and some height channel speakers you'd have a much better sound experience. Though you may also have to upgrade you're player to something that supports Atmos output.


I would need a receiver to do Atmos, a 4KTV, and a 4K player. Stuff that I'm at least 5 years out before I get.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:20 am

You wouldn't need a 4KTV there's a few BDs that have an Atmos track on them most notably Mad Max Fury Road well it was reissued with an Atmos track the first run BD doesn't have it. I'm pretty sure Black Panther has the Atmos track on the BD as well. So the only thing you'd need is a player and receiver to decode the Atmos track as well as the height speakers. But I can understand holding off on the player, TV and receiver. I'm set on the player and TV I just need a receiver with speakers and a place to put them, my tiny bedroom won't work.

As for the topic at hand I'll be picking up Batman vs Superman in 4K as well as the Deadpool 1 and 2 4K combo pack tomorrow. I was going to grab them tonight but forgot to grab them after work. Then in a month or two I'm going to pick up the Universal BD Legacy Collections for Dracula, Creature from the Black Lagoon and The Invisible Man. Going to skip The Mummy one because I was never a fan of the old mummy movies I just couldn't get into them like I did with the other universal monster movies.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby jellydonut25 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:55 am

Their Muppet Movie release was bad. The Blu-ray.com review gives the audio like a 3/5 and says it's "fine" but notes some...technical stuff that I don't know the terminology of, I just know that it's literally difficult to hear the audio.

As for discs vs streaming vs other...I don't notice a difference in general...except when we get to my Disney discs.

When it's all quiet in the house (so...basically never) I can listen to my TV anywhere from 9-14 volume. When the kids are here, it's like 25-ish. When the kids wanna watch a Disney disc...it's max...and I have to turn the surround speakers on...and nobody can hear the dialogue.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Dr Kain » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:17 pm

Tom R VanSlambrouck wrote:You wouldn't need a 4KTV there's a few BDs that have an Atmos track on them most notably Mad Max Fury Road well it was reissued with an Atmos track the first run BD doesn't have it. I'm pretty sure Black Panther has the Atmos track on the BD as well. So the only thing you'd need is a player and receiver to decode the Atmos track as well as the height speakers. But I can understand holding off on the player, TV and receiver. I'm set on the player and TV I just need a receiver with speakers and a place to put them, my tiny bedroom won't work.

As for the topic at hand I'll be picking up Batman vs Superman in 4K as well as the Deadpool 1 and 2 4K combo pack tomorrow. I was going to grab them tonight but forgot to grab them after work. Then in a month or two I'm going to pick up the Universal BD Legacy Collections for Dracula, Creature from the Black Lagoon and The Invisible Man. Going to skip The Mummy one because I was never a fan of the old mummy movies I just couldn't get into them like I did with the other universal monster movies.


Just to let you know, Universal has announced a complete box set for their Universal Horror stuff.

https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Classi ... or+blu+ray
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:33 am

I already have Frankenstein and The Wolf Man sets or else I'd get that box set.

Though I did enter the newest Sci-Fi Japan contest for that boxset.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Dr Kain » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:14 pm

One one more release to go and then they will have given us the entire story to Kouga (the original main character for those that don't know the series):

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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:21 pm

Last week I picked up Blade Runner, Blade Runner 2049 and a Man of Steel on 4K UHD BD. Amazon had a sale going on where you could get 3 4K UHD BDs for $49.99 so I decided to pick those up.

So far I've only watched Blade Runner and it looks amazing in 4K/HDR.
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby Dr Kain » Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:11 am

I'm waiting for them to do a box set for the two Blade Runner films before I pick the 4K version up (well, 4K of the original and 2049 in general).
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Re: New DVD/Blu-ray Purchases

Postby O.Supreme » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:36 pm

I haven't been to Best Buy in probably 2 years, so I thought, what the heck. They had the new Death of Superman DC Animated film for $15, and both Gotham by Gaslight & Suicide Squad- Hell to Pay for $10 each. I had not intended on getting those last two , but $10 was a pretty good price for new BRD/DVD/Digital combos. Also got X-Men DOFP- Rogue Cut, a impulse find at Walmart's $7.88 bin. Surprisingly, even though the digital copy expired 3 months ago, the code still worked, so that was a nice little bonus.
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