TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby DannyBeane » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:46 pm

lhb412 wrote:^ The '90s films are just so beige, everything feels like it's under the flat lights of a public school or something.

When watching the films in order the better lighting and cinematography of G2K was very welcome.


It also helps that the 80s film had a very 80s film grain look if that makes sense...
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby lhb412 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:25 pm

DannyBeane wrote:It also helps that the 80s film had a very 80s film grain look if that makes sense...


Yeah, I can see that. I'm not expert enough to talk about it with authority, though.

It's interesting how it's not a straight line of progression when it comes to motion picture film; different technologies, the cheapness or ease of new technologies, means that quality varies wildly and seemingly randomly through film history.
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby lhb412 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:01 am

Despite all the nuclear stuff running throughout the movie it's kinda weird to me that the thing that revives/awakens Godzilla initially is purely natural: a volcanic eruption. I can't help but feel that it would have been stronger thematically if a nuclear accident was the inciting incident. As is, it's more like Godzilla breaking out of the iceberg in KKvG.

Still digging the fact that I have access to this film now. I'm rewatching it yet again in oh so many months.
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby lhb412 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:29 am

This is funny:

http://jimpluff.tumblr.com/post/1647356 ... -the#notes

A big banner for the anime Godzilla movie currently adorns the building Godzilla took a cadmium-induced nap in in The Return of Godzilla!
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby lhb412 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:07 pm

Been listening to Reijiro Koroku's score recently. So moody, really digging it. Hadn't given too much thought to it before, even though certain cues are burned into my brain via constant Godzilla 1985 rewatches as a kid.
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby eabaker » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:05 pm

With the exception of a few moments, its not a score that calls much attention to itself while watching, but it is definitely one I like to keep on hand in the car; I've come to appreciate it a lot as driving music.
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby angilas » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:33 am

DannyBeane wrote:
lhb412 wrote:^ The '90s films are just so beige, everything feels like it's under the flat lights of a public school or something.

When watching the films in order the better lighting and cinematography of G2K was very welcome.


It also helps that the 80s film had a very 80s film grain look if that makes sense...


The 80s films definitely hold up better. The 90s feel a lot more cheesy at times, particularly the dub editions, but in their heyday they were thought of as the pinnacle of the franchise, with Tanaka going as far as to describe them as the definitive films if I remember correctly. Of course they lightened the mood considerably following the far more grim and gothic RoG and GvB. And with G85 removing the Japanese end titles there was nothing light about it...well except for this:
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby XvGojira » Thu May 30, 2019 12:56 am

Does anyone know what tracks from the Def-Con 4 score were used in G'85?
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby Benjamin Haines » Thu May 30, 2019 9:13 pm

^ SpaceHunterM posted two of the tracks on his YouTube channel. I'm not sure if there are more.

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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby XvGojira » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:05 pm

A got a copy of the soundtrack from a friend and I'm sure there's more than that, like the music during the russian sub segment. I was just wondering if anyone already had a list of the tracks used.
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby Stadawim » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:16 am

Hey guys. Got a question on this. On the '16 disc release, is it just me or did Godzilla's roars have almost no variation? Like, barely any at all? I'm asking to see if i got a weird copy or they're all like that or what the hell ever.
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby H-Man » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:13 pm

Stadawim wrote:Hey guys. Got a question on this. On the '16 disc release, is it just me or did Godzilla's roars have almost no variation? Like, barely any at all? I'm asking to see if i got a weird copy or they're all like that or what the hell ever.


I can't say I've noticed that myself. Have you compared it to other copies of the Japanese version (if you have any)?
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby Stadawim » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:55 pm

Yeah, i don't have any at the moment to compare to. What i DO have is the Americanized VHS tape from New World and it makes the Big Guy sound real cool in various places. That newer disc just gives us some basic roars. Godzilla still sounds good mind you. But actually shows some emotive roaring in the American production.
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby Goji 84 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:40 am

Stadawim wrote:Yeah, i don't have any at the moment to compare to. What i DO have is the Americanized VHS tape from New World and it makes the Big Guy sound real cool in various places. That newer disc just gives us some basic roars. Godzilla still sounds good mind you. But actually shows some emotive roaring in the American production.


The sound design of Godzilla 1985 is completely different than Return of Godzilla's. This is true of any Godzilla film that was heavily edited for American release, namely Godzilla King of the Monsters!, Gigantis, King Kong vs. Godzilla, and Ghidrah.
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby lhb412 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:43 am

^ G2K, too. The sound effects in the original Japanese version are weak compared to the meaty ones created for Sony's cut.
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby Goji 84 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:00 am

lhb412 wrote:^ G2K, too. The sound effects in the original Japanese version are weak compared to the meaty ones created for Sony's cut.


Whoops, I had a feeling I had forgotten one. I don't find myself thinking about G2K (much less watching it) very often, so I'm not really surprised I forgot about it.
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby Gojizilla » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:28 pm

This picture doesn't exactly fit with the Showa films or the Heisei ones. It just feels different and despite its flaws I enjoy it. I wish there were Godzilla films like this one.
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby H-Man » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:20 pm

Gojizilla wrote:This picture doesn't exactly fit with the Showa films or the Heisei ones. It just feels different and despite its flaws I enjoy it. I wish there were Godzilla films like this one.


It's more like Toho's disaster films of the late '70s and early '80s than any previous Godzilla film.
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Re: TALKBACK #16: The Return of Godzilla

Postby lhb412 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:54 am

Biollante is so late '80s it's got that '80s/'90s vibe. Supermonster is hardly a movie. Legend of the Dinosaurs is more Jaws knockoff than kaiju film.

RoG just absorbs a decade and a half worth of atmosphere in one kaiju film.
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