Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

[canofhumdingers]

I dunno if I'd call trevorrow incapable of staging action. I just re-watched the "ankylosaurus vs I. Rex with hamster ball" and "Blue and T. Rex vs I. Rex" final battle scenes from JW on my iPad last night while sitting in a hotel. Those are some darn fine action sequences (especially the final fight with the raptors and T. rex and everything). Heck, to be honest, I've never understood the complaints against JW. I find it a thoroughly fun time from start to finish. And as the only thing by trevorrow I've ever seen, I don't really understand all the hate he gets either.

But I will agree with you that JW:FK is a fine sequel and I thoroughly enjoyed it as well. And I appreciated the juxtaposition of the big, loud, flashy first half against the smaller, more intimate/personal second half.

To be honest, the only JP sequel I find lacking is JP3. And even it is worth a watch for the dinos.

[Henry88]

$809,016,064
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id ... sequel.htm

i want the next one to be a buddy cop movie between rexy and blue.

[canofhumdingers]

Yes! With Chris Pratt as the chief who calls them in to take away their badges!

[XvGojira]

[Henry88]

[lhb412]

[Moonlight SY-3]

[jellydonut25]

[eabaker]

My JW:FK review:



BTW, Blood Feud is the best Simpsons episode ever, and we could have watched it like 6 times during the time we spent in the theater watching Billy and the Cloneasaurus 5.

[jellydonut25]

BEST Simpsons episode?? Oh man...I think I gotta go with Cape Feare. But I could make a top...probably 10...maybe 20 that I'd have a hard time really delineating.

[eabaker]

I really just default to it because I find it the most quotable. It's the closest I could come to reciting a whole episode from memory.

[O.Supreme]

oh man...I apologize up front for making this thread descend into something else. But, it may just be because there are all in a row on the Season 8 DVD but...I find the trilogy of Hurricane Neddy, El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer, and The Springfield Files - to be comedic gold if you ever need a solid hour of laughs to brighten an otherwise gloomy day.

[eabaker]

[XvGojira]

Saw it again yesterday, enjoyed it even more.

[O.Supreme]

Finally saw this yesterday, or as I like to call it: Jurassic Mansion: Fallen Auction. My main purpose was to make any loose connection I could to the other films which while not mentioned, are not out of the continuity. Lockwood quotes Hammond from TLW "These creatures require our absence", also, the main bad guy does mention "Sorna" in his speech to Claire near the beginning, and while not specifically mentions, it seems Lockwoods sincere attempt to find refuge for the Dino''s seems to be Isla Sorna (though he just calls it a refugee island) He talks about no fences or barriers like Hammond did.

I still would like to know what happened however, as everyone seems to make it clear that Nublar is the only Island with living Dinosaurs, thus the seeming "need" to save them. Sorry I know its all fiction, and while the continuity is not nearly as egregious as some franchises like Transformers, I just don't want it to get there.

Also, at the end, I still take the same position about letting the Dino's loose that I don't think it would be as big a threat as they are making it. The greatest problem I might see would be from the multiplication of Compsognathus and Pterodactyls. Pretty much all the other species were single specimens that could not reproduce. Sure I know Wu and the other baddies have eggs and DNA to make more Dino's, but if in the next film, 3 years have past and its Dino-Apocalypse on Earth I'm out. The few dino's that got out, even the single T-Rex could easily be taken out by military force.

Let's also say, for the sake of argument a larger species like Triceratops had a breeding pair. The only thing I can compare them to on earth now might be Rhino's. Black Rhino's have been endangered for a while now, It's not like in 3 years there wold be hundreds of Triceratops roaming North America, let alone, the world. Also dont even get me started on how ridiculous the idea of a Blood Transfusion between T-Rex and a Velociraptor was, I think I made an audible sigh when that happened.

In the end, it was a serviceable sci-fi movie. With the emphasis on Fiction.

[Gwangi]

[jellydonut25]

[jellydonut25]

Finally saw this...

...and here I had the hubris to think that a movie could not be a dumber, worse sequel less befitting of its name than Pacific Rim Uprising. I was a fool. A foolish fool.

It's one thing to have to check your brain at the door. It's another to have to check your brain on the other side of the planet where the slightest rumbling of anything resembling a human thought can't possibly reach you, lest you immediately notice how the movie doesn't even have an internal logic.

Some human thoughts you might have:
-What about the entire other island of dinosaurs?
-Why is the "character" of Claire even in this movie?
-Can I define ANY of these characters aside from what they look like and/or what their job is?
-Why is the guy who respected the animals and identified more with animals than humans and hated the way the dinosaurs were treated in the first movie suddenly being fine with them all dying in the second movie?
-Who scored this movie? A brachiosaurus farting into a tuba?
-Why couldn't the evil mercenary group get their own IT guy instead of the worthless dude?
-Wouldn't a sedative powerful enough to knock out a dinosaur actually KILL a human?
-That's not how guns work.
-That's not how volcanoes work.
-That's not how trucks work.
-That's not how finances work.
-That's not how DNA works.
-That's not how blood transfusions work.
-That's not how being shot works.
-He built an elaborate lab-prison in COMPLETE SECRET?
-Wait...why keep them alive? You killed your boss/friend/whatever (the relationship is hardly established) but two random people who you say "As far as anyone else knows, they died on the island," you let live because...? Because....?
-Why would you buy a dinosaur to kill someone if you need a gun to make the dinosaur work? Why not just use a gun?
-Even $10 million for a dinosaur seems pretty cheap. The investment on the Indo Raptor had to have been in the hundreds of millions range. Selling for $30 million kinda sucks.
-Did the dinosaur just cry?
-Did the dinosaur just wink at the camera?
-That's not how elevators work.
-That's not how computer graphics for poisonous gas leaks work.
-Remember the kitchen scene?
-Remember the Unix system?
-Remember when Lex couldn't close the door to the hide-y hole in the kitchen scene?

The effects are better.
That's a nice thing I can say about the movie.
It might be the ONLY nice thing.

I recently rewatched Uprising and while it takes a little while to get there, at a certain point, it becomes so charmingly dim-witted and ridiculously over the top that you can't help but have fun.
This just never hits that point. It just is dumb, stays dumb, gets kinda boring frankly, and then ends.

Throw another franchise onto the trash heap.
Jurassic Whatever, you've joined Alien and Terminator.

[canofhumdingers]

[jellydonut25]

The more a movie ignores its own sense of an internal logic, the more the details it gets wrong bother me.

Also, there's a difference between taking liberties with something, and having gunfire UNDERWATER.
You can take liberties with a volcano (yeah, some of that is nitpicky on my part...except for when lava splashes onto a dinosaur's head and it just brushes it off like it touched a hot stove instead of melting through its skull and eating away its face), but to say, "Just get some carnivore blood...it's all the same" would be like proposing getting monkey blood for a human transfusion. It's all the primates, it's all the same, right? That's not how it works. Not even a LITTLE bit. 28 Days Later actually changed one of its original plot points specifically for that exact reason.
You can take liberties with computer graphics, sure, but you're selling DINOSAURS for $4 million? I could finance that. That's not even recouping the costs to get/make those dinosaurs.

The characters were beyond thinly sketched (and literally EVERY character that returns, including the damned velociraptor is a complete 180 from the first film with NO explanation given WHATSOEVER), and I found myself constantly thinking of Red Letter Media's reviews of the Star Wars prequels: could I describe any character beyond physical appearance and/or job? Am I invested in the action at all due to characters and emotion or is it just pretty looking action? Is anything happening unto itself or is the movie just trying to play off my memories of other, better movies in order to trick me?


I also found the movie frankly tedious and had difficulty staying with it in the final act. It felt really underwhelming there, in all likelihood because of my assumption that the island blowing up was originally the whole story but they thought people would be pissed about another island movie that was basically just the same exact story as The Lost World but this time WITH EXPLODING ISLAND so they tacked on some more stuff and hacked the original thing to bits and cut out all the actual character beats and left us with this half-baked pile of oozing garbage that is a disgrace even to a series that has become just a mindless dinosaur romp.

Won't be buying it, and not on board for any further Jurassic-tastic movies.

[canofhumdingers]

That’s fair. I’m certainly not trying to convince you to enjoy the movie. I just thought some of your complaints were kinda hilarious. I see this move kinda like JP3. It’s really pretty terrible and doesn’t make any sense if you use even the slightest amount of logic. But I still have enjoy watching it because movies don’t have to be “good” to be fun (just ask MST3K!!)

As for the finale, I actually appreciated how they had the big show stopping spectacle early and then had the finale focus in on a more personal narrative.

[Gwangi]

Just curious now with that "Halloween" movie on everyone's radar, if the execs at Universal would eventually do the same for the "Jurassic" series, if let's assume, the third installment falls flat? For the 30th or 35th anniversary, they could eliminate the events in the JW features (no Owen, no Claire and Isla Nublar is still there), and pick up events where the original left off (that would also mean cutting "The Lost World" and "JP3").

I am sort of two minds on that. A) I really do not need any more "Jurassic" features, and B) It would, however, be nice to wipe the lesser features out of this timeline. If this "Halloween" feature becomes a golden egg, it is be a good bet other studio execs might be thinking of doing the same to some of their franchises.

[jellydonut25]

Lots of franchises have already kinda gone that route.
Creed/Rocky
Jurassic World/Jurassic Park
The Force Awakens
Jumanji
Blader Runner
Predator (the new one is like the second time it might be going that route, but Predators has a bit of a requel feel to it)
The Thing

This isn't really a new thing.

[Gwangi]

But from what I understand, this new "Halloween" is going to completely eliminate everything that happened in the sequels and the timeline picks up where the original left off, only 40 years later. Similar to what Toho did with "The Return of Godzilla / Godzilla 1985". Jelly, some of the movies you mentioned, more or less, still maintained that history (Rocky/Creed is a good example).

I don't know if I want to see that in "Jurassic". As I stated before, I really do not need any more movies from this franchise, but picking up where the original left off, and completely eliminating all of the sequels in the timeline, I am sure is something that might flow through some of the heads at Universal, if say the third movie in this story arc (the adventures of Owen & Claire) completely falls flat.

[jellydonut25]

That's been done though.

Superman Returns ignores 3 and 4, Highlander 3 ignores 2, Texas Chainsaw Massacre is basically an entire series of ignoring the previous film, and Terminator Genisys ignores 3, 4, and all sense of quality filmmaking.

Even the Halloween franchise has already done that.