DAREDEVIL & THE DEFENDERS

[Dr Kain]

[Kaiju_Ultra_Fan]

ahh, I suppose that makes sense. I was looking at them as a group like The Avengers or Justice League I guess.

I should probably make time to watch this series soon. It's only 8 episodes so that's not too much of a time commitment.

[klen7]

The eight episode run (vs 13) helped really tighten this show up over some of the other series. Other than one thing in the finale i really enjoyed this. The series made me appreciate Luke Cage and Iron Fist a bit more than their respective series did. Jessica Jones and Daredevil were both great as was Stick, although I wish Trish and Karen got bigger parts. I'd say the Netflix universe continues to be my favorite of any of the comic book multimedia universes currently ongoing. overall Marvel still plays it safe - which in my book is where most MCU films stumble as well

Currently i'd rank the series
DD s1
JJ
DD s2
Def
LC
IF

but even the last place ranking i'd rank above most of the DCU and parts of the MCU

[Dr Kain]

What do you mean by playing it safe? Marvel has been doing all kinds of new things in their movies and TV series.

[klen7]

The final scene of the Defenders:

[Dr Kain]

[jellydonut25]

This place is the only place I'm seeing really overwhelmingly positive stuff. It's cool that y'all are enjoying it but after I felt Daredevil Season 2 was a step down from season 1 and since I feel like none of the Netflix stuff has ever been able to measure up to Episode Three of season 1 of Daredevil, I don't know if I'll ever bother. I'm really hoping my wife feels the same way too, as I tend to watch a lot of the things she watches.

[Kaiju_Ultra_Fan]

I loved season 2 of Daredevil because of The Punisher.

...actually that's all I remember about Season 2 is The Punisher.

[Dr Kain]

[klen7]

[Dr Kain]

You're forgetting that they also

[jellydonut25]

[Dr Kain]

If you expect 5/5 comic book show, then your expectations are too high. You can't go in expecting every show to be Better Call Saul/Breaking Bad quality. That is unrealistic. Comic book shows just have to be well written and be accurate to the source material. That is the most important thing, and that is what the Netflix shows are. It's one of the reasons I still hate Iron Fist because I hate the character in general. Thus, they get an A from me for accuracy. Now if you ask me about his costume, then I will start ranting.

[klen7]

[Dr Kain]

[jellydonut25]

[mr.negativity]

[jellydonut25]

[mr.negativity]

[mr.negativity]

[Gentleman]

Season 1 of DD is one of my favorite Marvel productions yet. Season 2 would have done better if they hadn't fallen into the deadly sequel trap of trying to do too much at once, namely running the Punisher and Elektra story arcs at the same time. Either one would have been a winner, but together they felt bulky and poorly stitched together. Plus, they lost tons of my goodwill when they Defenders never gelled for me, but I have hopes that Season 3 will pull it all together.

BTW, halfway through Cage I thought it was over, only to find out how far out I was. I never finished it, skipped Iron Fist, thought JJ was a slog that went on far too long, and haven't gotten to Punisher yet. Just to be clear where I stand for the Netflix universe.

[klen7]

i'm looking forward to S3 of DD, but still haven't touched the S2s of LC or IF. I did enjoy Punisher and S2 of JJ, so i just need to find the time

[O.Supreme]

I know these shows basically exist independent of the MCU, but still are technically part of it. I haven't watched any since S1 of DD (just not my thing)...but have they progressed to the point of Infinity Gauntlet yet?

[jellydonut25]

[klen7]

it seems like they casually mention the events of Avengers 1 a few times - but nothing beyond that, and mostly in a way you could miss