Strongest Tezuka Film

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Tezuka's best Godzilla film?

Godzilla X Megagirasu
30
23%
Godzilla X Mechagodzilla
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31%
Godzilla X Mothra X Mechagodzilla: Tokyo SOS!
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36%
Godzilla X Mothra X Waffles: Denny's SOS!
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10%
 
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Postby EternalMothra » Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:52 pm

I say Tokyo S.O.S. The monsters were displayed wonderfully in this film. Mothra on a high point is portrayed splendidly. I just wish she got to be in the fights a bit more. I know how some people don't like the fact that she is in the movie so much, but I think they did it well. She's the 'Queen of the Monsters' she deserves just as much screen-time as the others IMO. Her battle scenes though were spectacular, and the moment she flew into Tokyo, I was enamored. Godzilla was portrayed wonderfully in this film as well, he was ruthless, and mischevious in a sense. Kiryu I thought was being lagged when they displayed him. In GxMG he seemed faster, and more agile, but in this film he was just a slow hunk of metal.
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Postby Giganfan » Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:59 pm

See, I did not really like TOKYO SOS, beacause the pacing was too fast (in GxMG, the quick pacing of that story wasn't so much that it actually hurt the movie; here it does), the characters are sh*tty (it's great to see the return of Hiroshi Koizumi, one of my favorite genre actors, but his part really isn't needed) and overall, it just feels like a made-for-TV movie. There are some things that I like about the film, such as Michiro Ooshima's score, the portrayal of Mothra (so much so that I've become a much bigger fan of Mothra's because of it) and clearly the best special effects in any Godzilla movie to date. But none of these things have anything to do with Tezuka. I feel that he was on the right track with GxM and GxMG, and then he got carried away with TOKYO SOS. It's actually my least favorite Godzilla movie of the "millennium" series.
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Postby EternalMothra » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:22 pm

Giganfan wrote:See, I did not really like TOKYO SOS, beacause the pacing was too fast (in GxMG, the quick pacing of that story wasn't so much that it actually hurt the movie; here it does), the characters are sh*tty (it's great to see the return of Hiroshi Koizumi, one of my favorite genre actors, but his part really isn't needed) and overall, it just feels like a made-for-TV movie. There are some things that I like about the film, such as Michiro Ooshima's score, the portrayal of Mothra (so much so that I've become a much bigger fan of Mothra's because of it) and clearly the best special effects in any Godzilla movie to date. But none of these things have anything to do with Tezuka. I feel that he was on the right track with GxM and GxMG, and then he got carried away with TOKYO SOS. It's actually my least favorite Godzilla movie of the "millennium" series.


I do agree with you about the fast paced feel to the movie. It was going too quickly. Also another thing, you barely see the Shobijin in the movie. Only at the beginning, a few parts in the middle, then at the end briefly. Also, I really don't like how a good portrayal of Mothra ends up being beaten by Godzilla easily. It would have been nice to see her a bit violent in her battling skills. It was cool, but I felt as though they were lacking a bit in that area.
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Postby Pkmatrix » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:35 pm

In my opinion, of the three G films that Tezuka directed, GxMG is by far his strongest, followed by GxM. Tokyo SOS looked and felt like a tired rush job, almost as if they combined what Tezuka wanted with Mothra vs. Godzilla'64 in an attempt to boost ticket sales.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:50 am

why does everyone like SOS soo much? i felt it was a rush job...

i just, i dunno i guess i cant put my finger on it, but ive never felt that a direct sequel to any godzilla movie has paled in comparison to its prequel as much as SOS

GxMG was awesome (i thought) i really liked it and was wildly entertained...

then SOS was like one of those godzilla movies that i like because its godzilla but i really like to watch it while im trying to fall asleep, cuz it'll put me there
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Postby DannyBeane » Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:32 am

Even though I feel all Tezuka's films are crap, I'd have to say his best was GXMG to be honest though all his films either put me to sleep or just have something that throws me off.
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Postby StevenScrivello » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:00 am

I enjoyed SOS over GxMG. I thought the story was well thought out, and I liked the idea of it being a sequel of sorts to the original Mothra. Definately not the best of Godzilla films, though.
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Postby MouthForWar » Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:07 am

I voted for Megaguirus because it actually has some originality to it.
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Postby StevenScrivello » Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:00 pm

True, but so did GxMG with the idea of Mechagodzilla using the original Godzilla's bones.
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Postby MouthForWar » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:45 pm

But they didn't focus on it enough to make it very interesting. They focused on everything around it, but never on the fact that it WAS indeed the old Godzilla. They touch on it, but not enough for the audience to even care.

Tokyo SOS is the most entertaining one, IMO. But Megaguirus is the best, I think... there's a difference between best and favorite.
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Postby Elliot Gay » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:27 pm

GXMG was the best of em I think, and I enjoy watching it the most. GMMG is simply too fast paced for me to care. And GXM? Well, it makes me wicked bored
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Postby DaveZ » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:34 pm

Godzilla X Mothra X Waffles: Denny's SOS!

But seriously I would have to go with Godzilla X Megagiras, although I only consider it a mediocre movie at best. GXMG and GMMG both strike me as incoherent mess of half thought out and a quarter executed ideas.

I mean the new Godzilla doesn’t even show up until they are sending the final bones on their way. Basically right with the closing of the final cargo door, did they really remove all the bones and pack them up for shipping that fast? The bones are moved and put together in a vast complex, so I guess they planned to build a MG whether or not Godzilla showed up at all. The first movie is vague as to whether or not the bones are even used or if it was just the DNA for the computer. Godzilla doesn’t bother to show up again while MG is being built. MG has power problems in the first movie, having a shorter battery life then most laptops. But in GMMG it is able to fight all night long without anyone worrying about power issues, what they finally got the cold fusion engine online?
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Postby MouthForWar » Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:33 pm

I like all the Godzilla movies a whole lot, but for what its worth, I really think the Tezuka films are the worst things to come from the series since Space Godzilla.
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Postby ebirahsmeg1 » Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:10 pm

MouthForWar wrote:I like all the Godzilla movies a whole lot, but for what its worth, I really think the Tezuka films are the worst things to come from the series since Space Godzilla.


Agreed. I thought Tezuka started off well with GxM....it was a flawed film with many faults, but it was fun and had a certain energy and charm to it. Tezuka showed promise....then took a major nose dive thereafter. The less said about his later efforts, GxMG and GSOS, the better....As bad as GodzillavsSpaceGodzilla was, that film at least tried to do things a little different from the norm (but unfortunately was horriblely executed in all facets) instead of awful, unoriginal rehashes like Tezuka's last 2 films.
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Postby KaiserGhidorah » Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:44 pm

I voted Tokyo SOS because I believe it to be one of the best godzilla films. Everything about the film is so well executed IMO and the monster fight scenes are among some of the best the series has to offer. Spfx were excellent as well. Many complain the story was somewhat lacking but I didn't have any problems with it.

About Tezuka's other films:

GXMG was alright, nothing special but ok - much much better than the 93 MG film.

GXM was my least favorite Tezuka film but at the very least, it was better than Destroyer, Space Godzilla and GvsM92 but that truthfully isn't saying much. At the very least, it was mildly entertaining despite being heavily flawed.
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:00 pm

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Postby Rodanex » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:57 pm

GXM is definitely the more original of the three movies, but it has plenty of flaws. It was too goofy of a movie for my tastes, and the ending was terrible. "We got Godzilla....oops, I guess we didn't." It was just a lame, cop-out ending. It would have been a lot better if they had just ended the movie with the shot of the female soldier (I forgot her name) looking at the crater left by the DT.

GXMG is too derivative of GXM and Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla '93, and the whole story about MG constructed around Godzilla's bones was underdone. It had potential, especially when they introduced the concept of Godzilla's spirit taking control of the robot. The sequence of MG going on a rampage gave me chills, but then they didn't do anything interesting with it. The scientist says something like, "We have to switch to different bases for the DNA computers (whatever that means), but then Kiryu will have no chance." About 15 minutes later, Kiryu's fixed and they have no more problems. There was no development of the idea and no interesting resolution.

Tokyo SOS was way too derivative of Mothra vs. Godzilla. I'm getting tired of Toho just rehashing all their old movies. At least the first three millenium movies did something original. It was also too reminiscent of GXMG; once again, Kiryu is damaged, and a human has to climb inside and repair it. Yawn.

That said, I guess I have a slight preference for GXMG.

P.S. I have a question regarding GXMG. What was the baseball thing about? I interpreted it as the government saying that if the scientist guy worked for them and built Kiryu, then they would arrange for his daughter to get baseball lessons from a pro, or something. Is that correct, or am I way off?
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Postby MouthForWar » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:10 pm

You're way off. There was a contract a baseball player signed that said that he'd only play if his daughter could go into the dugout. They used the same principle, as the scientist would only work if his daughter could come with him.

I don't even know what could have given you such a bizarred idea. :lol:
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Postby Rodanex » Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:05 am

Because the subtitles suck on my copy of the movie. :)
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Postby redkiryuranger » Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:26 pm

i love mothra twins hacth from gigantic egg in godzilla tokyo sos
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Postby Irish Gfan » Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:12 am

I personally liked all three of his films, but Tokyo SOS was by far the best of them, and arguably the best in the Millenium Series (the only other arguable contender being GMK IMO)

The thing I love most about Tezuka's work is that it is painfully obvious that he is a fan of the series, and his enthusiasm shows in his films. Just watching the movies give me the feeling that he had fun doing them, and it was kind of a dream come true for him to work on these projects.

Godzilla X Megaguiras was a very enjoyable film despite its flaws. The major problem with the film is Godzilla's opponent. While Megaguiras has a cool design, and I love that they tied in an old and obscure monster from the past (Meganeuron from "Rodan", one of my personal favorite kaiju flicks), but the problem is that the creature lacks in originality. It is way too similar to Battra in some aspects, while it also shares qualities of Legion of the Gamera series and even Destroyah. But like I said, the movie is enjoyable, and The Dimension Tide is definately the most creative method ever used to despose of Godzilla. Its like it was something pulled right out of a comic book, and that same comic book atmosphere is shown in the look of the sets and tone of the film.

Godzilla X Mechagodzilla is in a lot of ways similar to the superior 1993 film. However, I do like Mechagodzilla's new design and of course the creative way in which Mechagodzilla was created. Unfortunately, the film suffers from having a human plot that is too similar to Tezuka's first film Not entirely of course, and if you watch the film you can see the obvious differences, but on paper they sound just the same.

Now Tokyo SOS I said was my favorite of Tezuka's work. Visually, its the best Godzilla film to date, surpassing Godzilla vs. Biollante which I had always said was Godzilla at his best visually. Also, tying in the original Mothra movie with what had already been established in the previous film was very neat. Also, the monster action is Tezuka's best work, with all three title monsters getting a chance to shine. There really isn't anything bad about the film that I can think of. It's just a shame that this film kind of got overlooked when it came out. When it came out, I believe Toho had already announced that Final Wars, the 50th Anniversary film, was in production, and this film (the better film IMO) kind of got swept under the rug.
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:35 am

Rodanex wrote:P.S. I have a question regarding GXMG. What was the baseball thing about? I interpreted it as the government saying that if the scientist guy worked for them and built Kiryu, then they would arrange for his daughter to get baseball lessons from a pro, or something. Is that correct, or am I way off?


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Postby lhb412 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:43 pm

I'd go with Megaguirus, as it's a very fun movie despite some suprisingly bad special effects. GxMG is incredibly dull, and Tokyo SOS is too, but the slightly better characters, beautifully realised Mothra, and impressive visuals give is more good points.

I have to say, now that the Millineum series is finished I find his three movies the weakest of the bunch.
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Postby Mac » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:08 am

I'm beginning to find enjoyment out of all of Tezuka's films. The movies have a very Showa-ish feeling to them in terms of story. GXM's story is very run-of-the-mill, but when watching it recently I realized how many interesting techniques and camera movements were employed. The final fight also gets points for originality (Even if it is a bit goofy). GXMG is also has characters that really act as ciphers, but the story takes enough interesting twists and turns (Such as Mechagodzilla's rampage) that is doesn't matter. The fight is also, once again, very refreshing and well plotted out unlike most of the Heisei series (Or even Godzilla 2000 for that matter). Story-wise, GMMG suffers the most, seeing as its barely more than a remake of Mothra vs Godzilla. However, GMMG boasts the most impressive special effects in the whole series, and an amiable array of fight sequences.

Seriously, how can some of you guys whine about originality in Tezuka's films when we have the Heisei series? Tezuka actually mixes up his camera-work, and doesn't shoot everything through the bland static-camera. Besides, I'm willing to bet that Toho pushed him to use famous monsters like Mechagodzilla and Mothra after GxM bomed. Toho is a company after all, and it needs revenue. Personally, I still feel that all of Tezuka's films are better than Godzilla 2000 and Godzilla: Final Wars.
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Postby Destroysall » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:47 am

I voted for Denny's SOS, my brother's name is Denny so I had to go with that one, :lol: Honestly though, I think I would go with Megaguirus, I love the monsters, and some of the battle scenes. I love the film development as well. The best scene in that movie is when you could see two pairs of strings drag Megaguirus across from the screen! :lol: I love it!
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