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Postby jrichreturns » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:21 pm

When did the Gotengo trap Godzilla in ice and what year did Final Wars happen?
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby Benjamin Haines » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:26 pm

It's not specified in the film. Here's what Shinichi Wakasa had to say when he was interviewed by Henshin!Online in 2004:

H!O: What scale are the monsters going to be in this movie? Early reports suggested Godzilla would be 50 meters tall, but others have said 100.

WAKASA: I believe the monsters are 100 meters this time.

H!O: Was that done to make the monsters look more massive and impressive next to the modern buildings?

WAKASA: Yeah. At the beginning, Mr. Kitamura wanted this movie to take place in the year 2030, but for many reasons at Toho Studios that is not clearly established in the film. The way it is now, the story could easily take place in 2004 or 2005 or 2006.

H!O: So it's the future, just not too far from now. That allows for new technology, but not manmade spacecraft and things like that.

WAKASA: Right. Mr. Kitamura wanted new technology, and he wanted to show a new landscape with a different architecture. There would have been many buildings done with a "futuristic" style.

H!O: I imagine that would have added considerably to the budget.

WAKASA: Yeah. That was also the same problem with the post-production CGI. The art department and the CGI department would have needed too much money to do that. So the landscape was changed; there will be less alterations made to the background matte photography than originally planned.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby MekaGojira3k » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:24 am

I think I've always misremembered that as being 2025. Neat to finally have that rectified.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby SpaceMal » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:31 pm

I misremembered it as 2032. As for the opening bit, that happened in the late 90's, so anywhere between 1996-1999.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby Benjamin Haines » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:55 am

SpaceMal wrote:As for the opening bit, that happened in the late 90's, so anywhere between 1996-1999.


What's your source for this info?
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby SpaceMal » Mon May 05, 2014 12:28 pm

Benjamin Haines wrote:What's your source for this info?


An interview with Shogo Tomiyama according to wikipedia some years ago. It's not the page as of now and doesn't have a bibliography, but just says an interview in G-Fan. I hadn't been keeping up with G-Fan at the time so I can't tell you much more than that.

What I can, and will do, is go back in the page's history and copypaste the paragraph here:
According to producer Shogo Tomiyama in a "G-Fan" magazine interview, he intended to revive Godzilla Junior for the 50th anniversary film Godzilla: Final Wars. In the first draft screenplay he and Wataru Mimura wrote, this Godzilla was Godzilla Junior from the Heisei series (which is why everything is on the 100 meter scale again) and Godzilla was imprisoned in the ice at the South Pole in the late 90s. The main action of the film was to have taken place in 2032. When Ryuhei Kitamura and his writer rewrote the script to their liking, this plot device was pretty much removed, making the specifics of the action of the film unknown. It is much likely that Junior was the Godzilla in Finals Wars as the stock footage of his resurrection was shown simultaneously with Godzilla frozen inside ice.


I knew it was 2032 when I read about it!

I'm guessing that means it was a specific date at one point, exactly 40 years after when Godzilla was frozen perhaps (2039?), but when they cut continuity references from the script he didn't actually make it a point to remember the exact year, because he doesn't care that much? And so he gave different dates in different interviews probably without even realizing it.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby XvGojira » Tue May 06, 2014 12:42 am

IMDB has the same trivia quote except for last badly written sentence, "It is much likely that Junior was the Godzilla in Finals Wars as the stock footage of his resurrection was shown simultaneously with Godzilla frozen inside ice." My god, where did you copy and paste that from?
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby Legion » Tue May 06, 2014 6:32 am

Wouldn't be shocked if some 11 year old wrote it.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby jellydonut25 » Tue May 06, 2014 8:43 am

jrichreturns wrote:When did the Gotengo trap Godzilla in ice and what year did Final Wars happen?

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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby angilas » Tue May 06, 2014 7:15 pm

If that was Godzilla Jr. I have to look at the film from an entirely different perspective.

That would mean Mothra's backstory included both Battra and Gigan as ancient foes.

The futurians design for King Ghidorah finds its origins in Kaiser Ghidorah and possibly whatever cells are left over from the Monster X battle (this is very similar toho's abandoned sequel to GvKG where he would be a more powerful space monster).

Gotengo was pretty much the final embodiment of the Super X, perfecting the freezing ray from Super X III, with more passenger space than Mechagodzilla and Moguera.

There was another Rodan Egg on Birth Island? Or did he also come back to life when Godzilla died, and maybe some of his energy went to Jr. the part he got from Rodan reformed into Rodan minus the ray which was still with Jr. who uses the hyper ray to destroy Kaiser?
I always felt Godzilla's overuse of that ray contributed directly to his condition in Destroyer, which is why he only used it as a finishing move when he first got it.

Perhaps Angilas was in an egg from birth Island since Rodan's ancestors gathered Godzillasaurus eggs and may have taken in ankylasaurus etc who would have been mutated from radiation.

Mechagodzilla (and even Super MechaGodzilla) has already appeared in this timeline so bringing him back would have been completely redundant, Mogera (who IMO was superior to MG but inferior to SMG) likewise.

The hesei timeline now includes aliens, futurians, psychics, superhumans, magic (or whatever the heck Minya does to grow..I will rewatch it when my sony bluray comes), and approximately 20+ Kaiju (minus the stock footage in the intro).

Mothra finally returned to earth and grew a bit, about 5,000 tons, 7 meters longer and an additional 40 meter wingspan. Very different from her size in 4/5 of the other films she showed up in the last 20 years. GMK she was close though bigger in some ways, so the hesei version works.
ANyway I like this idea, just kind of wonder if its canon.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby XvGojira » Tue May 06, 2014 7:51 pm

angilas wrote:ANyway I like this idea, just kind of wonder if its canon.


Don't worry, it's not.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby angilas » Tue May 06, 2014 8:08 pm

XvGojira wrote:
angilas wrote:ANyway I like this idea, just kind of wonder if its canon.


Don't worry, it's not.


Lol, thx, that "it is much likely" sentence had me confused.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby kiryugoji04 » Mon May 26, 2014 6:16 pm

I would never take a girl to see Final Wars on a date.
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Postby Legion » Mon May 26, 2014 6:19 pm

I've avoided showing it to my wife. She doesn't want to see it anyway based on what she's heard.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby gojira_fan » Mon May 26, 2014 8:16 pm

I tried to watch it a second time and had to turn it off.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby MekaGojira3k » Tue May 27, 2014 10:20 am

My girlfriend loathes this movie. In fact, I think she may even loathe this more than the 98 movie, although she doesn't like either.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby GoDziLLaX » Tue May 27, 2014 11:03 am

I put Final Wars on for the first time for my girlfriend the other night and she fell asleep before Godzilla was awakened from his icy sleep. She thought it was incredibly boring and had no personality. She loved G14 and has seen it with me 4 times already. I'm trying to get her to see Godzilla the way I've seen him, but Final Wars just doesn't do that.
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Postby Gman2887 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:40 pm

I remember when the movie had yet to be released that the opening scene, with the Gotengo, was said to take place in the 1960s/70s. I guess I've misremembered that myself...
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby MekaGojira3k » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:47 pm

Gman2887 wrote:I remember when the movie had yet to be released that the opening scene, with the Gotengo, was said to take place in the 1960s/70s. I guess I've misremembered that myself...


No, I remember something somewhere said 1960s. Which is why I was so confused when I later read the rest took place in 20XX.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby Gman2887 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:53 pm

MekaGojira3k wrote:
Gman2887 wrote:I remember when the movie had yet to be released that the opening scene, with the Gotengo, was said to take place in the 1960s/70s. I guess I've misremembered that myself...


No, I remember something somewhere said 1960s. Which is why I was so confused when I later read the rest took place in 20XX.
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Try as I might, I can't find anything on the 1960s setting and this movie. I felt like it was made pretty clear behind the scenes as we were waiting for the movie.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby Dr Kain » Fri May 29, 2015 12:50 am

kiryugoji04 wrote:I would never take a girl to see Final Wars on a date.


Really? This is one of the few Godzilla movies my girlfriend enjoys and does not fall asleep during. In fact, she also loves all three Tezuka movies.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby MekaGojira3k » Fri May 29, 2015 12:13 pm

Dr Kain wrote:
kiryugoji04 wrote:I would never take a girl to see Final Wars on a date.


Really? This is one of the few Godzilla movies my girlfriend enjoys and does not fall asleep during. In fact, she also loves all three Tezuka movies.


M'lady loathes Final Wars.
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby klen7 » Fri May 29, 2015 1:21 pm

M'lady knows not of the Final Wars.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Fri May 29, 2015 1:49 pm

My wife has seen 4 Godzilla movies. The kindest thing she's said has been "That was about what I expected."
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Re: Godzilla Final Wars dates

Postby MekaGojira3k » Fri May 29, 2015 2:14 pm

Early in our relationship we went through all of the films. She actually loves Godzilla vs. Hedorah, Monster Zero, and the original. She doesn't like things like Mothra vs. Godzilla (which almost seems HERESY), but she does so on the basis of her hating Mothra. I can't recall many of her other favorites, but I know she liked X MechaGodzilla, SpaceGodzilla, and vs. Megalon.

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