TALKBACK #24: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus

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Postby jamaal7 » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:03 am

I have a couple of more thoughts about GODZILLA X MEGAGUIRUS (I love the way this title looks, by the way, with the "X"):

I would put purposeful pauses, for reasons of suspense, between the appearances of the Meganulon and the Meganula. You would not see one evolving into the other (except maybe in a flashback). During 'the pause,' Tokyo's beleaguered, attack-weary citizens begin to think that it's over; the menace has passed. Then, out of no where, the 5 meter (16.5 feet) Meganula begin their onslaught. And it would be brutal.

As for their energizing of Megaguirus, I would have added some tighter shots to let the audience, now scared out of their wits, with a 'what's next' frame of mind, get a closer look of what's ahead.

As for Godzilla, I would have started with a massive confrontation between him and the JSDF in Tokyo Bay, not some hide-and-seek skirmish featuring bazookas. The attack in the bay would alternate POV-wise, between shots of Godzilla-some of them close up-and the results of the use of his heat weapon. The last thing you would hear would be his famous roar against the visual of a completely devastated military.
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Postby jamaal7 » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:40 pm

More on GODZILLA X MEGAGUIRUS: as for the implied political corruption tied to the secret use of plasma energy, I would like to have seen more exposition involving some of the main characters, particularly Prof. Yoshino Yoshizawa as portrayed by Yuriko Hoshi. To have her involved in the cover up regarding this banned energy source would be intriguing. This 'other side' of her character would be a nice counterpoint to the public persona of the dedicated, patriotic scientist. The idea would be leaving the audience not really knowing who to trust.

I would remove the kaiju high jinks, like the Great Pounce (Godzilla falling from way up in the air), the Head Shake (and its attendant sound effect) and any other silliness. I understand the idea of infusing GXM with a manga-like quality (as stated by SPFX Director Kenji Suzuki in Fangoria). But, that doesn't require making a giant monster film, which by its nature should be filled with peril, into a story where the titular kaiju are distinguished by camp.

Obviously, I would fix the SPFX regarding Megaguirus' flying.The idea of her wing movement, at high speed, resulting in power outages could have been explored in the form of a night time fight to the death between the Hyper Dragon Fly and the King of the Monsters in a blacked out Tokyo. The imagery of two, gigantic silhouettes leveling large sections of this great metropolis would shocking and arresting.

I feel that a kind desperation could have permeated GXM, driving it into areas of horror, dark humor, shocking political corruption and intrigue and scary monster visages.

A film like this, with this kind of imagery and suspense would be great to see at midnight.
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Postby jamaal7 » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:49 pm

One more thing: I would lose the subtitle, "G Extermination Command."

Godzilla X Megaguirus would be enough as a title as it would be in line with the general idea of purposefully leaving some things unexplained.
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Postby armandv » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:54 am

I saw a news item where it appears that "life is imitating art."

http://armandsrancho.blogspot.com/2011/10/alternate-japanese-capital-idea-life.html
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Postby The Real McCoy » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:56 am

Godzilla X Megaguirus was a pretty boring movie for me. For me, this movie is living proof that boring human characters can almost ruin a movie. They all seem pretty much like cardboard cutouts to me. The monster action wasn't great, but it wasn't awful either. I don't dislike this one as much as Final Wars.
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Postby king_ghidorah » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:24 pm

The Real McCoy wrote:Godzilla X Megaguirus was a pretty boring movie for me. For me, this movie is living proof that boring human characters can almost ruin a movie. They all seem pretty much like cardboard cutouts to me. The monster action wasn't great, but it wasn't awful either. I don't dislike this one as much as Final Wars.


The fact that you don't like Megaguirus and Final Wars just bought you a pass in my book man :D
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Postby The Real McCoy » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:41 pm

king_ghidorah wrote:
The Real McCoy wrote:Godzilla X Megaguirus was a pretty boring movie for me. For me, this movie is living proof that boring human characters can almost ruin a movie. They all seem pretty much like cardboard cutouts to me. The monster action wasn't great, but it wasn't awful either. I don't dislike this one as much as Final Wars.


The fact that you don't like Megaguirus and Final Wars just bought you a pass in my book man :D

Thanks. Megaguirus was at least an attempt at a Godzilla film though. I'll at least give it that.
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Postby king_ghidorah » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:50 pm

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king_ghidorah wrote:
The Real McCoy wrote:Godzilla X Megaguirus was a pretty boring movie for me. For me, this movie is living proof that boring human characters can almost ruin a movie. They all seem pretty much like cardboard cutouts to me. The monster action wasn't great, but it wasn't awful either. I don't dislike this one as much as Final Wars.


The fact that you don't like Megaguirus and Final Wars just bought you a pass in my book man :D

Thanks. Megaguirus was at least an attempt at a Godzilla film though. I'll at least give it that.


I loathe Final Wars....I'm serious when I say I might like GINO more
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Postby The Real McCoy » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:56 pm

king_ghidorah wrote:I loathe Final Wars....I'm serious when I say I might like GINO more

You have just become my new best friend...
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Postby king_ghidorah » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:58 pm

The Real McCoy wrote:
king_ghidorah wrote:I loathe Final Wars....I'm serious when I say I might like GINO more

You have just become my new best friend...


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Postby MouthForWar » Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:31 pm

king_ghidorah wrote:
The Real McCoy wrote:
king_ghidorah wrote:
The Real McCoy wrote:Godzilla X Megaguirus was a pretty boring movie for me. For me, this movie is living proof that boring human characters can almost ruin a movie. They all seem pretty much like cardboard cutouts to me. The monster action wasn't great, but it wasn't awful either. I don't dislike this one as much as Final Wars.


The fact that you don't like Megaguirus and Final Wars just bought you a pass in my book man :D

Thanks. Megaguirus was at least an attempt at a Godzilla film though. I'll at least give it that.


I loathe Final Wars....I'm serious when I say I might like GINO more


Now you're just talking crazy :eek:
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Postby Gojilove » Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:12 pm

king_ghidorah wrote:
The Real McCoy wrote:
king_ghidorah wrote:
The Real McCoy wrote:Godzilla X Megaguirus was a pretty boring movie for me. For me, this movie is living proof that boring human characters can almost ruin a movie. They all seem pretty much like cardboard cutouts to me. The monster action wasn't great, but it wasn't awful either. I don't dislike this one as much as Final Wars.


The fact that you don't like Megaguirus and Final Wars just bought you a pass in my book man :D

Thanks. Megaguirus was at least an attempt at a Godzilla film though. I'll at least give it that.


I loathe Final Wars....I'm serious when I say I might like GINO more




Well GINO is in Final wars, so at least that makes sense.
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Postby Legion » Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:30 pm

GoJiRa07 wrote:Well GINO is in Final wars, so at least that makes sense.


Zilla is in Final Wars. GINO is in...GINO.
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:02 pm

Legion wrote:
GoJiRa07 wrote:Well GINO is in Final wars, so at least that makes sense.


Zilla is in Final Wars. GINO is in...GINO.



wat?
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Postby kiryugoji04 » Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:31 am

I am entertained by watching every character in this film be an "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" to every other character in this film. It's like they're all members of a Godzilla fan forum. :lol:

MekaGojira3k wrote:
Legion wrote:
GoJiRa07 wrote:Well GINO is in Final wars, so at least that makes sense.


Zilla is in Final Wars. GINO is in...GINO.



wat?


*echoes*

wat?
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Postby The Real McCoy » Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:36 am

I think it's a trademark thing. He explained it at TK but I don't remember how it goes. Zilla and GINO are apparently two different monsters. Zilla even has his own little badge like the rest of them.
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Postby kiryugoji04 » Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:38 am

I refuse to let a technicality like that ruin the one satisfying moment of Final Wars.
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:39 am

Zilla is GINO, GINO is Zilla. Why would you even get nitpicky about something so undeserving of such technicality?
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Postby The Real McCoy » Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:44 am

I've asked that question many times.


And I didn't get an answer.
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Postby MouthForWar » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:09 am

The Real McCoy wrote:I think it's a trademark thing. He explained it at TK but I don't remember how it goes. Zilla and GINO are apparently two different monsters. Zilla even has his own little badge like the rest of them.


The "Zilla" logo is the same as the Godzilla character logo on the GINO merch though. Its not a trademark thing either since Toho owns the GINO Godzilla character and their own character. Zilla was only called Zilla because Kitamura wanted to differentiate the two once and for all and said that the GINO character took the "God" out of Godzilla. Hence, Zilla.
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Postby Reaper G » Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:06 am

king_ghidorah wrote:
I loathe Final Wars....I'm serious when I say I might like GINO more


Final Wars -- Don Frye
GINO -- Maria Pitillo

You were saying?
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Postby king_ghidorah » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:15 am

Reaper G wrote:
king_ghidorah wrote:
I loathe Final Wars....I'm serious when I say I might like GINO more


Final Wars -- Don Frye
GINO -- Maria Pitillo

You were saying?


Final Wars is one of the worst films I've ever seen...ever.
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Postby The Real McCoy » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:44 am

I wish Jean Reno would have had a bigger part in that movie. He equals Don Frye in badassery.
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Postby king_ghidorah » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:51 am

The Real McCoy wrote:I wish Jean Reno would have had a bigger part in that movie. He equals Don Frye in badassery.


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Postby jellydonut25 » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:45 pm

The difference between Jean Reno in GINO and Don Frye in Final Wars is that Don Frye amps up the awesomeness of Final Wars whereas Jean Reno appearing in GINO just makes you shake your head and shed a tear for his career...
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