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Re: well

Postby metal_bryan » Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:47 pm

Xenorama wrote:I just watched this again, for the first time in several years, and I liked it. way more than any of the VS movies. the scene with her riding Godzilla is great.

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That's one of the scenes in the movie I think really shines too.
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Postby MouthForWar » Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:55 pm

metal_bryan wrote:
Xenorama wrote:I just watched this again, for the first time in several years, and I liked it. way more than any of the VS movies. the scene with her riding Godzilla is great.

David


That's one of the scenes in the movie I think really shines too.


Probably the only decent scene in the film. I guess I kinda like the part where the young couple gets killed in the streets.
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small review

Postby Xenorama » Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:59 pm

here's a small review I just did, for anyone interested.

http://xenorama.blogspot.com/2009/11/mega-bug.html

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Postby Rodanex » Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:29 pm

I liked that this one tried some original ideas, and it also had a pretty good score. I also got a kick out of the intro showing the 2000 Godzilla suit digitally inserted into the clips from the original film.

Beyond that...it doesn't do much for me.
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Postby Shonokin » Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:45 pm

The scenes with the non-or barely-flapping wings always get to me, yuck... but otherwise I like this the best of the Tezuka movies. It's at least fairly original.

I haven't seen it since it first came out so should probably re-watch it.
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Postby zekend01 » Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:34 pm

I think the underwater scenes are absolutely beautiful for the most part in this flick, and easily the best of any era.
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Postby kent » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:08 am

This film really does look like a Sci-Fi channel production. It pales in comparison to the previous film!

I had never hated a Godzilla movie in my life until I initially saw this one. Granted, even then, I didn't actually hate, but was just SO disappointed in it. From news coming out during it's production in 2000, it sounded like a very promising follow-up. Nope.

The characters are far less interesting and the story seems to drag and the pacing is haphazard.

Since it's DVD release, I've tried to avoid this one. But the last couple years I've wanted to love it more; so I watched it a number of times.

It's now beginning to grow on me, but it's still not spectacular. The acting is dull and the Megaguirus prop is very disappointing in its execution. Too damn stiff.

While I'm happy I don't "hate" the film anymore, I still don't find it to be anything really exciting.

2.5/5
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Postby MrShape666 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:18 am

I always loved the pseudo science in this movie. Japan won't use nuclear weapons so they're going to create a micro black hole instead? I'm no physicist, but black holes, even a micro one, are thousands of times more destructive then any nuclear bomb!

Making one in your backyard just seems like an incredibly BAD idea.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:52 am

this movie stinks to high heaven
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Postby Arrow » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:34 am

I honestly tried to like it before, but it's become one of the only two Godzilla movies I can actually say that I hate.

I've seen some comments (not necessarily on this board) saying that it's a fun throwback to the '70s films, but I honestly never got that feeling. I get the same feeling from this movie as when I watch Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla: an incredibly lazy, by-the-numbers plot with hit-and-miss special effects and a weak human cast. But Megaguirus herself is cool and I really do like the music, even if it's done a lot better in the Kiryu movies. I'd prefer it over Space Godzilla because of the music and Megagurius herself, but it's still one of my least favorite Godzilla movies.
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Postby MouthForWar » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:27 pm

Arrow wrote:I honestly tried to like it before, but it's become one of the only two Godzilla movies I can actually say that I hate.

I've seen some comments (not necessarily on this board) saying that it's a fun throwback to the '70s films, but I honestly never got that feeling. I get the same feeling from this movie as when I watch Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla: an incredibly lazy, by-the-numbers plot with hit-and-miss special effects and a weak human cast. But Megaguirus herself is cool and I really do like the music, even if it's done a lot better in the Kiryu movies. I'd prefer it over Space Godzilla because of the music and Megagurius herself, but it's still one of my least favorite Godzilla movies.


This echoes my feelings about this film almost to a T. I don't get how this movie is "fun" at all. In fact, I find Tezuka to be the most unimaginitive director to ever tackle the series, (well, after only Kensho Yamashita). Say what you want about Banno, Omori or Kitamura, but at least their films stood out in some way or another. Tezuka's may not be as pedantic as Okawara's films, but I find them much less creative. Tezuka's films are pretty much mad libs where he filled in the blanks. The "riding Godzilla" scene is the only imaginitive moment in the whole mess and it boasts the worst effects in the series since Megalon. This is VERY much the Space Godzilla of the Millenium films, IMO.
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Postby zekend01 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:53 pm

MrShape666 wrote:I always loved the pseudo science in this movie. Japan won't use nuclear weapons so they're going to create a micro black hole instead? I'm no physicist, but black holes, even a micro one, are thousands of times more destructive then any nuclear bomb!

Making one in your backyard just seems like an incredibly BAD idea.



Not true. Tiny black holes don't have the mass to sustain themselves. They just appear and dissolve.
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Postby Goji 84 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:50 pm

This movie really is terrible. Sitting through it dubbed at G-Fest this year was quite painful, actually. On top of already having terribly uninteresting characters, you have (like MFW mentioned) probably the worst SPX in a Toho film since MEGALON. They really are that bad. A decade later, I'm still taken back by how poorly done they were. MEGALON has an excuse..this film doesn't, and it's just down right embarrassing to watch.
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Postby MrShape666 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:11 pm

I enjoy the film, but I wouldn't rate it too high. My mail problem is that Megagirias' battles with Godzilla are way to stilted and awkward.
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Postby Guardian7 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:17 am

Well. I thought G2K was fun!
FW is dumb...
I can't stand Kiryu...
and Spirit possessed Godzilla is just as bad as Kiryu...

So for me... the Godzilla in GxM is a lot of fun.
yeah... the characters in it are rather cardboardish.
Yeah... the effects certainly had a lot to be desired at some points.
YEAH... The story kind of pushed some very odd concepts.

BUT for the life of me I enjoy this film.
I love the early Godzilla scenes... like the one of him swimming is one of my all time favorite scenes in a Godzilla film... and someone climbing on him is unheard of.

I loved is battle with the swarm and it was yet another new thing in my opinion.
Actually I liked the whole Island scene.

Okay... the Black Hole Generator is such a bad concept I really can't say enough bad about it, so I will spare you all.
But Godzilla not being some lumbering menace and having a tiny fraction of that semi-heroic edge. Well that worked for me.

Just my opinion... I probably need meds! LOL

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Postby Destroysall » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:53 am

This movie is fun to watch. I watched the Dubbed version at school on Crackle with a few friends of mine and we got a lot of good laughs out of it. :)
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Postby king_ghidorah » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:29 am

Destroysall wrote:This movie is fun to watch. I watched the Dubbed version at school on Crackle with a few friends of mine and we got a lot of good laughs out of it. :)


The only thing this film is good for is laughs and causing headaches from its sheer horribleness...I think I just described a carnival ride by accident...oops.
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:48 am

I try to have fun with this film, but I can't even enjoy it in a laughable sort of way..it's just soo boring.
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Postby Goji 84 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:55 pm

MekaGojira3k wrote:I try to have fun with this film, but I can't even enjoy it in a laughable sort of way..it's just soo boring.


That's my issue as well..it's just bores me to tears.
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Postby kiryugoji04 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:22 pm

I think it's great fun and the black hole gun is the most delightfully daft invention Toho has come up with in YEARS. It feels like an episode of Ultraman Ace in how unabashedly ridiculous it is.
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:55 pm

I think I could get behind the absurd nature of a black hole gun if the rest of the film were as FUN and WACKY as such a plot would allow, but it's not. It's just everyone playing it straight faced (to the point that everyone seems to be having as much fun as I do watching the movie) and it just comes off as unbearably boring.
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:20 pm

It's unbearably boring AND terribly soap opera-esque. Just a really bad movie in every respect.

It does have a few cool scenes. The 1954 intro, Tsujimori riding Godzilla and the entire fight with Megaguirus. It's too bad the rest of the film is so stunningly godawful.
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Postby Cookie » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:39 am

idk... some moments are really good, while there are some dumb moments. I've come to hate the "slow motion" moments in the fnal battle. Overall, I like it for what it is... just like GFW

If there's something that shines in this movie, it's the soundtrack! The 2000 series had some great music imo.
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Postby SeaHawk » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:19 pm

Tsujimori riding Godzilla reminds me of GAMERA SUPER MONSTER.
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Postby jamaal7 » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:24 pm

I think GODZILLA X MEGAGUIRUS could have benefited immensely from emphasizing the latent horror elements in the Meganulon, Meganulas and Megaguirus.

The designs themselves lent themselves to this kind of use and execution. With these creatures from the past terrorizing Tokyo, the only thing needed to make the horror complete would be a vicious, evil, bent-on-destruction Godzilla. The Gira-Goji design, with some tweaking around the eyes, and the right direction, could have helped to place a sense of real peril into the story.

I would like to have seen the Meganulon, Meganula and finally, Megaguirus engaged in constant, ongoing attacks. My GXM would be very graphic.

That the horror and destruction of creatures from the past was the direct result of a futuristic weapon, designed and deployed to destroy Godzilla, would be most ironic. A element of the story could have been devoted to the political consequences of the use of the Dimension Tide. I mean, someone would have to be held responsible, which means that someone would have to be 'sacrificed.' If written well and with some imagination, the intrigue and suspense of this part of the story could have been interesting. People in power will often do anything (to anyone) to stay in power (and avoid prosecution). This could have mirrored the viciousness of the attacks by the Meganulon, Meganula and, finally, Megaguirus.

And then, Godzilla reappears. Anti-hero or the Finisher? Maybe, GXM, like this, doesn't have a happy ending.
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