The G2000 design

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What look would you have preferred for Godzilla in G2000?

The original maquette design
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The final Miregoji suit design
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The G2000 design

Postby Benjamin Haines » Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:59 am

I came across this awesome picture showing the original Godzilla maquette sculpted for Godzilla 2000 from several angles:

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I remember reading somewhere that when Shinichi Wakasa made the suit for the film, he didn't have this maquette or any of the concept art with him and had to work from memory. I took that with a grain of salt, because I can't really imagine the circumstances that could have kept him from having the maquette with him, but it does explain why the final suit ended up looking so different from the original vision of the design.

Personally, I think that maquette design looks cool as hell. I liked the Miregoji suit design a lot (the mechanics and craftsmanship of the suit itself are another story... ), but maquette just looks so much better. I wouldn't say it's completely ideal (I'd do something about the eyes and tweak the toes a little), but I like it more than most of the other G looks in the series. Though it's doubtful, I really hope that design gets used in a future Godzilla movie one day. It's just too kickin' to not make it onto the silver screen.


My question to y'all is: Would you rather have had that maquette design used in Godzilla 2000? Or do you prefer the Miregoji suit design that we got?
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Postby TerranigmaFreak » Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:36 am

I agree, it does look better than the actual suit.
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Postby Brendosaurus » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:00 pm

I really don't like the head on the maquette, that pretty much ruins it for me. The actual Miregoji suit, however, is one of my favorite Godzilla designs.
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Postby mrbluehair » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:18 pm

Aside from the head on profile, I really liked Miregoji. The maquette though really harkens back to a hybrid of G54 and Kinggoji, at least to me it does.
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Postby pocketmego » Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:38 pm

I have to go with the actual suit. I have always REALLY liked that suit and was sad to see the design go. I prefer the head to the Maquett, which looks a little too GFW for my tastes and I really hated THAT suit.

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Postby kpa » Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:48 pm

I don't recall hearing the "Wakasa didn't have the maquette" story before. Usually the suits don't look like the maquettes (think of the original Godzilla for a great example). The maquette is the starting point but a lot of people have imput while the suit is being made so the design evolves during the process.

Here's what Shinichi Wakasa said when I interviewed him in 2004. It gives some insight into the suit-making process...

"Godzilla has a lot of hardcore fans, and if you ask a hundred of them what they'd want Godzilla to look like you'll get a hundred different answers: "I love the Mosugoji", "I love the Giragoji", "I love the Heisei Goji", or "Battogoji" or every other suit. My first Godzilla suit was for GODZILLA 2000. Some people said "I hate it because it looks like a frog" or "Whatever it is, I don't like it". I understand their feelings, but Godzilla 2000 was not my design. [Special effects director Kenji] Suzuki and other crewmembers said to make the head bigger and to have the mouth go back farther.

It was a very difficult job on GODZILLA 2000. I had a lot of ideas, but there was no time on the movie; there was only about 40 days, you know. I had to make a cast of Mr. [Tsutomu] Kitagawa's body, then sculpt the new Godzilla, do the molding, everything; the whole job in 40 days. It was very difficult. I was much more relaxed on GODZILLA AGAINST MECHAGODZILLA. In that case, Mr. [Masaaki] Tezuka was the only person making decisions about the suit and I trust Mr. Tezuka very much. He requested the smaller face and that Godzilla's mouth not be so big."
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Postby Legion » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:43 pm

kpa wrote:It was a very difficult job on GODZILLA 2000. I had a lot of ideas, but there was no time on the movie; there was only about 40 days, you know."


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Postby Gfan54 » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:10 pm

There's things that I like about both designs. I like both and would have to cosinder it a draw (if there were a 3rd option for that choice), however, if I have to choose one over the other then the Miregoji suit gets my vote...I like it for what it is, and personally feel that it's one heckuva cool G suit design! :th-up:
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Postby rackmount » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:43 pm

Cool.
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Postby Giganfan » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:34 am

The original maquette is probably the best-looking Godzilla I've ever seen. So yeah, I'm definately going with that one. Even though, I do like the final Mire-goji design.
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Postby walshbeme » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:22 pm

If I'm not mistaken, the maquette is an original Yuji Sakai design that was the concept used with inhancements that were applied by Wakasa. The dorsals were the truest of the concepts used but obviously Wakasa applied his artistic touches to the head in particular with shades of the '62 Godzilla and his pet cat.
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Postby ryuuseipro » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:08 pm

walshbeme wrote:If I'm not mistaken, the maquette is an original Yuji Sakai design that was the concept used with inhancements that were applied by Wakasa. The dorsals were the truest of the concepts used but obviously Wakasa applied his artistic touches to the head in particular with shades of the '62 Godzilla and his pet cat.


Yeah, though to me, the final suit, in full profile, looked more like a reptilian wolf with a spiky back.

And it's still one of my favorite Godzilla suits. :wink:
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Postby canofhumdingers » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:32 pm

My vote goes to the suit. they're both great, but the suit is just awesome. I would point out, though, that i liked the GxMegaguirus version better. the slight color change wasn't a big deal, but it also seemed like they made some other very minor tweaks that were subtle improvements (particularly were the head attaches to the neck). Does anyone have any more info on the changes they made? or am i just imagining them?
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Postby ebirahsmeg1 » Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:04 am

Is "none of the above" an option in this poll?
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Postby MireGoji » Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:36 pm

I voted for the suit. But then, I would, wouldn't I? :P :lol:

Nothing against the maquette, that's cool. It's just that, at the end of the day, it's still a concept Godzilla, it wasn't what made it onto the screen, and I saw Godzilla 2000 before I saw the maquette, so I guess I ended up favouring the suit.
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Postby redkiryuranger » Sat May 19, 2007 6:27 pm

i vote final mire goji suit degsin and i love purple in mire goji 's fins
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Postby walshbeme » Sun May 20, 2007 5:07 pm

Brendosaurus wrote:I really don't like the head on the maquette, that pretty much ruins it for me. The actual Miregoji suit, however, is one of my favorite Godzilla designs.

The head is the best part because it's a combination of King Goji and everyone that followed. Brilliant!
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Postby jamaal7 » Mon May 21, 2007 4:13 pm

I love the Mire-Goji design, but I feel the maquette as an actual suit would have made a great, horror-inducing Godzilla. Shogo Tomiyama at a live event at Shinjuku Loft Plus One in June of 1999 said they wanted this Godzilla to have an element of weirdness. This design, with the proper direction, lighting and suit acting would have filled the bill. Imagine these dorsals all lit all, with perhaps the eyes going all white in the middle of a pitch black night. This could have been a scary, truly malevolent Godzilla. If you make the story go in the direction of a really enraged kaiju, who is out to viciously wipe out energy sources as well as the people who operate them, then this design could have been mesmerizing.
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Postby Brendosaurus » Tue May 22, 2007 2:52 pm

The head is the best part because it's a combination of King Goji and everyone that followed. Brilliant!


I realize that's why most people like it, as aside from the head the maquette isn't terribly different from the suit. I just don't particularly like the King goji head either, while I think the Miregoji head is one of the best. I will say the arms look pretty decent on the maquette.
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Postby zekend01 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:40 pm

I LOVE the maquette design and had the highest hopes when seeing it used (again?) on the Final Wars art poster.

Instead what we got was two of the absolute worst Godzilla designs EVER: Croc-muppet-head-G2K and Skinny-azz-dome-head-Duckzilla from Final Wars. :x :x :x
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Postby jellydonut25 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:48 pm

Love the G2000 look and was sad to see it go...

I also REALLY like the 'Charging' up of the fire...it somehow seemed more realistic to me AND it had much less of an 'unbeatable' notion to me...like "hey watch out and get ready to dodge" rather than "crap, i'm already dead"
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Postby zekend01 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:56 pm

The design fared better in GXM after some tweaking, but I still think the head was waaaaaaay too big on the G2K suit.
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Postby Ghido-Goji » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:55 pm

I'm a big fan of the adaptation of the Kiryu-Goji suit more so than its original. While I do have a fondness for the dorsal plates on the Mire-Goji , I can't doubt that they look great also on the G 2000 maquette. With that said, I like the maquette a whole lot more than the design actually used. I like the upward pose of it. Looks more "Godzilla" to me. Same thing with the head and mouth. Mire-Goji represented a historic moment in the series, but the design does not compare to the first attempt.
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Postby fools-gold64 » Fri May 22, 2009 2:04 am

That maquette wins for me by a mile. I love the King-Goji style head, and I definitely prefer the dorsal fins on the maquette.
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Postby DannyBeane » Fri May 22, 2009 2:40 am

The Maquette is one of my dream Godzilla designs so I voted for it. I happen to love the G2K Goji suit as well. It was definately one of the best in the millenium series.
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