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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:56 am

Yep, Man-Ape was awesome!!!! Shuri was also awesome. Hell, the entire cast was awesome. There was not one bad character in the movie at all.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby jellydonut25 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:09 am

canofhumdingers wrote:Black Panther - I thought it was good, but not great. A solid middle-of-the-pack Marvel movie. As a 30-something middle-class white guy from the suburbs, I’m very obviously not the target audience. And I admittedly felt no strong connection with any of the characters, which is a big reason why found it only average.

That being said, I totally get why this is being so successful and being made such a big deal of. There IS a huge target audience for this film that has been starved for such a big, well written and acted, high budget, and truly heroic hero who is black. And they really did a great job delivering on that. And (as far as I can tell as a white guy from the burbs) they really tried to embrace and address many of the issues, problems, dreams, and aspirations of the black community in a positive way.

So, while personally grading it just as a superhero film, I’d give it maybe a 2.5 or 3 stars out of 4 (fwiw, anything 2 or above I would consider worth seeing). But as a landmark or groundbreaking cultural event, I think it accomplishes much more.

Reviews like this are why I don't really feel the need to see it.

Seems like as a movie, it's good, but not great. I'll wait till home video.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby canofhumdingers » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:03 am

That's a very solid judgement. I don't regret seeing it in the theater (especially since it was a $5 matinee in really nice lounging recliners), but it's one that I definitely would not have been disappointed if I'd waited to watch it at home. (Unlike, say, Doctor Strange where I did wait for home video and then really wished I had seen it on the biggest screen possible because of the wild visuals.... still regret that one...)
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:35 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:Reviews like this are why I don't really feel the need to see it.

Seems like as a movie, it's good, but not great. I'll wait till home video.


See, I don't get this mindset. Every movie is always superior in the theater no matter whether it is a good or bad movie. Nothing will ever beat the theatrical experience. That si why I will go see movies from the 30s and 40s in the theaters despite owning them on BD.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:21 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:Reviews like this are why I don't really feel the need to see it.

Seems like as a movie, it's good, but not great. I'll wait till home video.


Mmmm... I'd recommend seeing it. I think it's gonna go down as big a deal as Iron Man and the first Avengers - and if you're tired of the Marvel formula: it's more sci-fi/fantasy adventure crossed with palace intrigue crossed with spy movie than it is a superhero film. I don't remember where I read this, but to paraphrase: "people were expecting black superhero movie and got black Star Wars instead."
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby jellydonut25 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:26 pm

Dr Kain wrote:
jellydonut25 wrote:Reviews like this are why I don't really feel the need to see it.

Seems like as a movie, it's good, but not great. I'll wait till home video.


See, I don't get this mindset. Every movie is always superior in the theater no matter whether it is a good or bad movie. Nothing will ever beat the theatrical experience. That si why I will go see movies from the 30s and 40s in the theaters despite owning them on BD.

I disagree. The theater experience is a miserable con job these days and the only benefit of it is seeing a movie early.

Theaters and screens are smaller, you can hear other movies in the auditorium next door, people are jerks, and digital projection makes the actual viewing experience itself essentially identical to my at-home projector.

Everything beats the theatrical experience.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:44 pm

Not even close. Nothing beats seeing the movie with a crowd of people who are enjoying or hating the movie as much as you.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby canofhumdingers » Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:45 pm

Gotta (kinda) side with Kain, JD. Sounds like you’re just going to the wrong theaters. I love the cinemark near me. The XD screen in particular is really nice (enormous screen, 4K, luxury recliners, amazing sound) but even the regular audtoriums there beat the pants of any home theater I’ve ever seen. I’ve never had a problem hearing movies from adjacent screens in my auditorium. And the crowds there have never been an issue (always courteous and well behaved during the show) when I’m there on a busy night, but I DO usually go to the early bird matinees during the week whenever possible.

Now,I agree that not every movie needs to be seen in the theater (and while I might be in the minority here at MZ, I think you’re safe skipping the theatrical show of Black Panther) but I still think it’s totally worthwhile for movies you really care about.

And don’t even get me started on premium theater experiences like the IMAX Laser in Austin, or the amazingly restored 1920’s Heights Theater outside Minneapolis, MN*...





*oh how much I miss the Heights Theater!! I saw King Kong, Forbidden Planet, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, and SO many more classic films there, all on 35mm!! In a flipping 1926 movie theater with curtains, chandeliers, and a Wurlitzer organ played before the films! Ugh! It was such a dream!
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:30 pm

Get Out

I like to think that one day the thought came to Jordan Peele that the creepiest thing would be young black people acting like old white people and he should build a movie around that.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby klen7 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:35 pm

Mute - really wanted to like this, I don't expect to watch it again. If it weren't for the director I may not have finished it. Normally I can put my finger on one or two things to tweak in order to improve a movie in my estimation, but here I don't think there's much I would want to see more of. In a lot of ways Southland Tales is to Donnie Darko as Mute is to Moon. It's really hard to picture this coming from the same creative voice, there's a lot there, but the story doesn't justify the world
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:00 am

The Dark Crystal

So cool seeing this in the theater after seeing so many of the puppets and props at the Henson exhibit last summer.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:54 am

klen7 wrote:Mute - really wanted to like this, I don't expect to watch it again. If it weren't for the director I may not have finished it. Normally I can put my finger on one or two things to tweak in order to improve a movie in my estimation, but here I don't think there's much I would want to see more of. In a lot of ways Southland Tales is to Donnie Darko as Mute is to Moon. It's really hard to picture this coming from the same creative voice, there's a lot there, but the story doesn't justify the world

I've not heard a single good thing.

Months ago, it was possibly my most-anticipated movie for the year.
Now...I'll watch it when "I get a chance," which means after my new blus, and a list of other movies I wanna see, and then by then other new movies I want to see will be out so....June?
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby klen7 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:06 pm

^ I haven't seen any of the reviews, but go rewatch Strange Days or Blade Runner if you want a sci-fi mystery noir.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby klen7 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:49 pm

Stake Land II: Stakelander - it feels like its been 10 years since i saw the first Stake Land film, but i recall it being a bit of a gem of a horror flick. The sequel is fine, does some more world building, certainly more enjoyable than most of the post-apocalyptic stuff i've seen lately. If you liked the first one check it out.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:38 pm

klen7 wrote:Stake Land II: Stakelander - it feels like its been 10 years since i saw the first Stake Land film, but i recall it being a bit of a gem of a horror flick. The sequel is fine, does some more world building, certainly more enjoyable than most of the post-apocalyptic stuff i've seen lately. If you liked the first one check it out.

I had watched the first one fairly recently when I saw the second one...felt like a waste, like a remake more than a sequel. I didn't think it did anything different enough or to justify its reason for existence. I'd give the original Stake Land at least a 4/5, but the sequel a 2.5/5.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby klen7 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:52 pm

^ i admittedly haven't seen Stake Land in a while, not sure what I would have added to expand the world vs just exploring it a bit more or what i would recommend for a third film.

Revisited a few flicks that I have been wanting to rewatch lately
The Great Yokai War - tonally this film is all over the place - by most accounts it's a children's film, but it earns it's PG-13 rating with scary imagery and violence. This is the first time i've seen the film since I had started reading a lot of Shigeru Mizuki's yokai mangas, so while the darkness feels at home with the 60s films, i would love to see something lighter done (a la Spirited Away) in a live action tokusatsu style. Oddly enough David Marti, a spanish SFX artist that works with Guillermo Del Toro and has designed some of the iconic creatures (Crimson Peak, Pan's Labyrinth, Hellboy II, Devil's Backbone, etc) posted a picture last week of a Shigeru Mizuki yokai book with the hashtag #projects - which got me daydreaming about a GDT yokai film.

Gods of Egypt - I love this film. This feels like the spiritual sequel to the Harryhausen style movies I grew up (rather than the new Titans movies) - The art direction is fantastic and they whole heartedly embrace all forms of things that most film makers would have avoided for budget and realism concerns. Some of the dialogue is a bit cheap, but the amount of effort they put into all the effects, backgrounds, and mythology make it all ok.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:59 pm

Funny how a movie about racism was refused to be watched by the white people running the academy.

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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:23 pm

Dr Kain wrote:Funny how a movie about racism was refused to be watched by the white people running the academy.

http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3486 ... scar-film/


This anonymous tipster stuff always makes the rounds about this time. This doesn't surprise me, though. The strikes against it are a) being a cheaply made horror films and b) calling out the racism of 'liberal' affluent white people - the stereotypical old Academy member white guy would be totally okay with a movie with redneck klansmen, but when the stuff being called out is more close to home I'll bet it made a lot of folks uncomfortable.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby klen7 » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:07 pm

Saw Black Panther today, it was a refreshing change from the standard Marvel formula (aside from one forced comedic moment that kind of broke the tone of the film at critical point) - But add me to the last that is glad i saw this one in the theater. Definitely liked this better than Spider-man and Civil War. This movie feels tonally more like Winter Soldier, which is a good thing - I did find it distracting that they seemed to use the same set/location of the Macau casino in Skyfall for the casino in Korea - not sure why would use something so visually unique that was already in worldwide blockbuster
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby canofhumdingers » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:29 am

klen7 wrote:Saw Black Panther today... Definitely liked this better than Spider-man and Civil War.


No way, not even close for me. Spider-Man is fantastic (rewatched it rather recently) with one of the (THE?) best marvel villains to date. And Civil War is the best Avengers movie since Avengers 1.

It’s interesting you felt it was a break from marvel formula. I thought Black Panther felt VERY typically marvel.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:10 am

Civil War is not an Avengers film. It may feature other characters, but the core of the story is finishing what Winter Soldier started.

Black Panther was definitely a break from the norm though. It was just like Winter Soldier in that it was a political thriller first, with elements of a spy movie, and a super hero movie third.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:52 am

Civil War is a hot mess.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:44 am

jellydonut25 wrote:Civil War is a hot mess.


You think all of the Marvel movies are a hot mess though. Civil War is just fine outside of how the hell time works, but it's a series about people with super powers fighting other people with super powers.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:05 am

Dr Kain wrote:You think all of the Marvel movies are a hot mess though.

Nah, bruv.
Just the messy ones: Ultron, Civil War, Thor 2, probably some others.

Spider-Man wasn't a mess. It wasn't AMAZING, but it was solid. It definitely has one of the best villains in the MCU and it's good.
Guardians 2 wasn't a mess. It was just awesome.

But Civil War? Pfffffffffttt.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby klen7 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:09 am

^ As far as climactic battles goes GOTG2 was right up there with Ultron - kind of knocked the movie down a notch for me.
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