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Postby O.Supreme » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:07 pm

POTC: Dead Men Tell No Tales- Saw this was on Netflix, and figured, I'd give it a shot. After 15 minuets I was bored and stopped watching, then yesterday my kids begged me to watch it, so we did...all the way through...I don't think I laughed once. Johnny Depp didn't even seem to care despite the fact it had been 6 years since the last film. (The longest gap of any time in the series). You'd think with more time, they'd come up with a more compelling story. While many disliked the 4th film, I actually appreciated its fresh take, and new characters. I wanted to see what happened with the young priest & the Mermaid, and what about Blackbeard's daughter?...(Penelope Cruz is beautiful...) :wink: . But no, we go back to Will Turner, more specifically his son, who is somehow 20, I haven't sought out a timeline for this series, but I don't think I want to. I think they messed up bad in this one, especially with the reveal at the end (thankfully Bloom is only onscreen for a couple of minutes, and Keira Knightly even less, and has no dialogue :lol: )- that was probably the most reassuring thing. I agree with most that the 4th film was wholly unnecessary, but it did set up a lot of good story points that were all but dropped in this 5th film for some odd reason. Instead we get more convoluted Jack Sparrow backstory, and the villain Capt Salazar had the same gross Teeth-Goo problem Danny DeVito's Penguin did, so he was hard to look at. HUGE PLOT HOLE #1 ---If giving up the Compass sets Salazar free, why did this not occur in any of the previous films when Jack gave up the compass? HUGE PLOT HOLE #2 -At the end it stated that "All Curses on the Sea" are lifted, so -no more curses, no more magic etc...So...How can Davy Jones be back? Even if he came back to life somehow, he would not be cursed...??? Or am I missing something?

what can I say? - This was a franchise that started off so entertaining and humorous. ALL of these big franchises I think are suffering from the law of diminishing returns. It's kind of like Pizza. The first slice is great, the 2nd is even better, by the 3rd you are usually full and ready to stop. Sometimes... if you are super-hungry you may go for a 4th, but you usually regret it later. It's a simple formula, but it works. I think trilogies really are the best way to go about things. If you want to make more films afterwards, give the franchise a break, give the audience time to reflect on how much they like what they had, then maybe come back in 10+ years and see if there is interest. Now it seems they want to give you one every year, until you are so sick of it, you never want to see it again. Then again I cant blame some studios, they see international box office now as their potential, not just the US anymore. But even across the globe they are catching on, it usually just takes an extra film or two. Pirates 5, and Transformers 5, while not being financial failures, both performed way under expectations due to lack of support form international markets. Hopefully this will make studios begin to rethink their strategies and understand that even in other places, eventually they get sick of the same old thing, and want something different.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:06 am

I'm thinking that my local theaters will get Shape of Water at the next big expansion date, January 19, but I'm still not sure. I am sure that my flu (or whatever it was) has sufficiently dampened to the point I can actually enjoy watching things so back to my rewatch of Guillermo del Toro's films (and this weekend maybe I work on my stack of Christmas gift Blu-Rays).

Hellboy II: the Golden Army

It's been a while since I've seen this one, so it's great to be delighted by it all over again. There are just so many cool monsters in this movie - I've called it the Star Wars of Monster Movies: tiny monsters to enormous giants and every shape and size in between, monster suit monsters and CGI monsters and and ones crafted by putting actors in makeup and appliances. If only they had a stop motion monster than it would truly be complete! This is a great ensemble movie, too. Characters like Abe and Liz really get to shine after their supporting turns in the previous film, and there's a great lived-in sense to everyone's relationships in this one. You believe that these people live and work together.

Of course, this is where there was the breaking point with Mignola's Hellboy as GDT makes it so much his own. Hellboy II is less folklore and gothic horror and pulp (though elements of all remain) and more domestic (screwball) comedy mixed with a half dozen Harryhausen flicks and all filtered through GDT mind. Hellboy acts even more like GDT commenting on his own eternal adolescence here, further removed from the hard-boiled character of the comics. I don't mind. The comics are brilliant, but I don't think an adaptation has to be super accurate to be good. The first movie is much more comics accurate, but I think the second one is much better.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby klen7 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:32 am

Brawl in Cell Block 99 - I wanted to like this more, it comes together in the end but the narrative didn't engage me me for the first two acts (unlike Bone Tomahawk). Also I guess it was a stylistic choice but the very cheap looking and simply bad gore effects took me right out of the film each time they happened. The last one is as laughably bad as the Friday the 13th ending with the door - it completely undermines the dramatic elements.
The acting was good, especially Vaughn (from the trailer I expected this was miscast), Udo Kier and Don Johnson. The fights sometimes feel like they are in slow motion and we're supposed to believe Vaughn is Arnold Schwarzenegger in Commando levels of strong. Really a mixed bag for me, but ultimately the effects work ruined this by continually breaking the films thrall. I may have really liked it had I seen it on vhs instead of in HD
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby canofhumdingers » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:06 am

Baby Driver - I finally got to see this movie last night. I had tried and tried to see it in the theater and it never worked out. Anyway, it didn’t disappoint. It was a thoroughly entertaining and well crafted film. And it was fun to watch a great action film that knows it’s a film and fully embraces the art form, using all the available tools of filmmaking to craft a complete, fun, and engaging audiovisual experience. It’s not just a good script, or fun characters, or a well crafted story; it’s good cinema all around.

That said, it’s not a film I feel a strong need or desire to watch again any time soon. Don’t get me wrong, I’d be perfectly happy to watch it again tonight. But I don’t need to, if that makes any sense. Basically, it was such a complete and satisfying cinematic experience that I feel like I got what I needed out of it and can happily go about my business, humming the soundtrack and tapping my toes as I start a new day.

Although it’s probably a good thing I don’t need to drive anywhere this morning... Houston doesn’t need another bat-out-of-hell on the streets during rush hour.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Gwangi » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:26 pm

Logan

I liked it, though I did not really fall in love with it. The X-Men movies aren't exactly my cup of tea. I thought that the first two films (especially the second one) were really solid. Since then, things have been rather uneven with "Days of Future Past" being the best of the later features, imo.

I never saw the two previous "Wolverine" movies, and was told that I really did not need to before watching this one. Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart and the little girl who played Laura were outstanding. But the story of those seeking refuge, I've seen, many many times before.

Using Leonard Maltin's ratings system, I give this a good *** stars.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:33 pm

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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby jellydonut25 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:16 pm

The Brawl, Baby Driver and Logan reviews are bummers, guys.

Two of those movies are top 5s of the year for me and the other is top 15.

You guys are killing my soul more than the utterly useless Godzilla anime.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby canofhumdingers » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:46 am

How is my Baby Driver review a bummer? I thought the film was great and my review is entirely positive.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:38 am

Godzilla Planet of the Exposition - Let me put it this way, Godzilla vs Space Godzilla is no longer the worst Godzilla movie ever.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:09 am

I watched Pacific Rim and ohmygod Shape of Water still isn't scheduled for any of my local theaters this is killing me.

Anyway, I love Pacific Rim.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby jellydonut25 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:33 am

canofhumdingers wrote:How is my Baby Driver review a bummer? I thought the film was great and my review is entirely positive.

You said you don’t want to watch it. It’s one of the most rewatchable movies of 2017.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:45 am

jellydonut25 wrote:
canofhumdingers wrote:How is my Baby Driver review a bummer? I thought the film was great and my review is entirely positive.

You said you don’t want to watch it. It’s one of the most rewatchable movies of 2017.


There are plenty of excellent movies out there that just aren't worth a rewatch no matter how good they were. That doesn't make the movie bad at all.

I kind of agree with that assessment on Baby Driver. I loved the movie, I just don't think it is a movie I need to ever see again. The same goes for Atomic Blonde and Detroit from last year.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:59 am

I saw Baby Driver like three times in the theater. It's pure cinema; just what you go to the movies for, much like (ironically, another chase movie) Fury Road.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby canofhumdingers » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:20 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:
canofhumdingers wrote:How is my Baby Driver review a bummer? I thought the film was great and my review is entirely positive.

You said you don’t want to watch it. It’s one of the most rewatchable movies of 2017.


I said I’d gladly watch it again anytime. But I don’t feel a need to. Because it was so well made it was an entirely satisfying experience from start to finish. And when it was over I felt... satisfied.

Liken it to an excellent meal. It’s incredibly enjoyable and you savor every bite. And it’s served in the perfect portion. Once it’s complete you aren’t over stuffed, but you’re definitely no longer hungry. Your are happily full and satisfied and content. That’s how I felt at the end of Baby Driver. And like that great meal, I’m certain I’ll revisit it some day and completely enjoy it again. But at the moment I was sitting there after the credits rolled (just like at the end of said meal), I was fully contented and happy to move on as I relished the memory of the film/meal I had just consumed.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby klen7 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:42 pm

i stand by my Brawl review being a JD downer. What were they thinking?
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Rody » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:49 pm

Dr Kain wrote:Godzilla Planet of the Exposition - Let me put it this way, Godzilla vs Space Godzilla is no longer the worst Godzilla movie ever.

It never was - Godzilla vs. Mothra predates it by two years. :P


Arsenic and Old Lace (1944) - I hadn't realized before this was a Frank Capra movie, but it's all too fitting because some of my absolute favorite films are Capra's, and this one is no exception. It's an utter delight watching Cary Grant play a man hyper-actively at the end of his wits (in contrast to Grant's iconic unshakable characters), and the entire film sells its absurdity with brilliant earnest and just a little winking at the audience. It's a hilarious film that's equally dark and quaint, quite unlike anything else I've seen before. I've loved this movie since first sight, and this latest viewing only cemented that for me.

Battle for the Planet of the Apes (1973) - at last, I have completed the classic "Apes" films! This one took me a little while to get the hang of (just due to in-taking how certain details of events were presented), but I thought it was a solid, and surprisingly optimistic, final chapter to the series overall. I kind of understand why, and respect how, the first few films took on such a cynical worldview; but as someone who prefers to take a more optimistic outlook on life, watching those films started becoming genuinely hard, so I'm glad 'Battle' (and, to an extent, 'Conquest' before it) strove for a new, brighter resolution. Now to watch the new ones...?

Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi (2017) - now that was really something! I'll have to watch it again to better evaluate it, but my first impression is that this is a really good movie and a welcome, fresh take on the material for the Star Wars film franchise.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby eabaker » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:03 pm

Rody wrote:
Dr Kain wrote:Godzilla Planet of the Exposition - Let me put it this way, Godzilla vs Space Godzilla is no longer the worst Godzilla movie ever.

It never was - Godzilla vs. Mothra predates it by two years. :P


Ah, the timeless debate over which was the worst Heisei entry.

I'll take Godzilla vs. Mothra over Space Godzilla any day, but I recognize that I first saw them under very different circumstances, and that probably colored my reactions. When I first learned that there were still Godzilla movies being made in Japan, King Ghidorah and Mothra were both available on bootleg, and they were like a miracle to me. This would have been... late '93/early '94. By the beginning of '95, when I first got a bootlege of GvsSG, the simple fact of a new Godzilla movie no longer had the same overwhelming impact on me, so I was watching through (incrementally) more critical eyes.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:26 pm

lol

I definitely prefer Mothra over Space Godzilla because of Battra and Ifukube's soundtrack. SpaceG has neither of those.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Benjamin Haines » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:03 pm

Krampus (2015) - I finally saw this during the holiday season and I thought it was terrific. It’ll be worth watching every year around Christmastime. It’s great to see prominent actors like Adam Scott, Toni Collette and David Koechner in a modern horror movie, since studios these days tend to just go with the cheapest unknown talent when it comes to horror. I also loved seeing so much practical effects work in a modern Hollywood film and it gives me hope that Michael Dougherty will bring that same approach to Godzilla: King of the Monsters.

Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle (2017) - And with that, I've seen 20 new films from 2017 on the big screen. This movie was really well done, a lot better than I ever would have expected from a modern-day sequel to Jumanji. They put a lot of effort into this one and it shows. The cast is fantastic all-around, the pacing is smooth and the script is very clever. It avoids rehashing much of anything from the 1995 original and instead plunges headlong into a totally different premise, embracing video game tropes and setting the adventure inside the jungle world of the game.

Godzilla: Planet of the Monsters (2017) - I liked it a lot. I posted more about it in the spoiler thread.


Also, I’ve watched Baby Driver three times since I got the BRD. (I usually only post in this thread about movies I’ve recently seen for the first time.)


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You're better off avoiding X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009) altogether but The Wolverine (2013) is worth checking out, particularly the extended cut. It was also directed by Logan's James Mangold and it plays as a bridge between the events of X-Men: The Last Stand and Days of Future Past. It's a Wolverine adventure set in Japan and it's awesome.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:12 pm

Benjamin Haines wrote:Krampus (2015) - I finally saw this during the holiday season and I thought it was terrific. It’ll be worth watching every year around Christmastime. It’s great to see prominent actors like Adam Scott, Toni Collette and David Koechner in a modern horror movie, since studios these days tend to just go with the cheapest unknown talent when it comes to horror. I also loved seeing so much practical effects work in a modern Hollywood film and it gives me hope that Michael Dougherty will bring that same approach to Godzilla: King of the Monsters



Well, the rumor (pieced together from various things said by Dougherty along with a little guesswork) is
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that there are other monsters besides the four main kaiju, perhaps human scale. He said there'd be practical creature work in the movie, and that seems like the best bet for where it'd be!


Oh, and Godzilla vs. Mothra is worse than Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla by virtue of Spacegodzilla having Yuki (the most compelling character in a Heisei film), some nice location footage, and being stupid in a way that's kind of interesting, as opposed to just being dull.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby jellydonut25 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:21 am

Not that it matters. Planet of the Monsters is worse than either one. I’ve partaken in literal wastes of time that we’re less of a waste of time.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:41 am

To Live and Die in LA - Great movie despite some narrative flaws. Wonderful camera work and visuals. 9/10

Splatter - This was some short film that appeared on Netflix with Corey Feldman and Tony Todd. It's pretty bad, but it seems like it was intentionally made that way. It could have been worse as I'm more stunned and its stupidity than angered, so I will give it a 5/10.
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Postby Dr Kain » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:06 pm

The Simpsons Movie - After rewatching the 9 seasons of the show, this movie makes for a grand finale. Yes, it does have some of the stupid ass moments that plagued Seasons 8 and 9, but ultimately, this movie is just fantastic. It has some really nice spoofs, it has the real Homer (despite a couple of jerkass moments), it has touching moments, excellent voice acting, great jokes, and ends the series with a bang. Oh, and the animation is really nice, especially during Homer's epiphany scene. It's not perfect, but it is <tapping hands together> excellent. A 9/10.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:55 pm

Watched Mothra vs. Godzilla on Svengoolie. Looking at the quality of the print made me anticipate the eventual Criterion release that much more.

Saw Three Billboard Outside Ebbing, Missouri. Great performances from McDormand, Harrelson, and Rockwell. Even though it's the same writer/director as In Bruges it's much less stylized, more naturalistic, and even though it's been labeled a black comedy I think that's pretty misleading. It is steadfastly a drama.

I went into this already knowing about the backlash in some quarters - not really a hardcore backlash, just the movie rubbing some people the wrong way, and after seeing the movie I understand why.

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Sam Rockwell's plays a cop who may or may not have beaten up a black guy when in custody, and he's seems to be known by everybody in town for this incident. The second half of the film essentially belongs to this character, and while the movie doesn't excuse his behavior we do understand more about him and he is somewhat redeemed by the end. This rubbed people the wrong way because there is a growing belief that as a culture we're more apt to want to empathize with the perpetrators of violence (racial violence in particular) than the victims. This sounds crazy, but its backed up by a constant stream of newspaper and magazine articles, podcasts, books, and more that try to psychoanalyze and emphasize and 'explain' neo-nazis and the like, and comparatively few about the ones on the receiving end of said violence. So partially this is just the movie coming out in the wrong time: wading into an argument and retroactively being included in a trend that the movie never intended, but I also think the overall message and tone of the movie is just rubbing people the wrong way in a more abstract way. We're in a time when people are searching for moral clarity. People not only want to know the right moral choice, but want to know what they can do about it (this is the 'call your representatives' generation). Billboards, in turn, is all about murkiness; the all-encompassing grey area. We grow more unsure about our preconceptions about the characters and their situations over the course of the movie, and by the end we're left with the truth that in the end we often don't get to know the truth about things and that there's a limit to what we can actually do to help. In an era when people are looking for marching orders to 'save the world' such a message can seem especially disturbing.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Benjamin Haines » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:03 am

lhb412 wrote:Saw Three Billboard Outside Ebbing, Missouri. Great performances from McDormand, Harrelson, and Rockwell. Even though it's the same writer/director as In Bruges it's much less stylized, more naturalistic, and even though it's been labeled a black comedy I think that's pretty misleading. It is steadfastly a drama.

I went into this already knowing about the backlash in some quarters - not really a hardcore backlash, just the movie rubbing some people the wrong way, and after seeing the movie I understand why.

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Sam Rockwell's plays a cop who may or may not have beaten up a black guy when in custody, and he's seems to be known by everybody in town for this incident. The second half of the film essentially belongs to this character, and while the movie doesn't excuse his behavior we do understand more about him and he is somewhat redeemed by the end. This rubbed people the wrong way because there is a growing belief that as a culture we're more apt to want to empathize with the perpetrators of violence (racial violence in particular) than the victims. This sounds crazy, but its backed up by a constant stream of newspaper and magazine articles, podcasts, books, and more that try to psychoanalyze and emphasize and 'explain' neo-nazis and the like, and comparatively few about the ones on the receiving end of said violence. So partially this is just the movie coming out in the wrong time: wading into an argument and retroactively being included in a trend that the movie never intended, but I also think the overall message and tone of the movie is just rubbing people the wrong way in a more abstract way. We're in a time when people are searching for moral clarity. People not only want to know the right moral choice, but want to know what they can do about it (this is the 'call your representatives' generation). Billboards, in turn, is all about murkiness; the all-encompassing grey area. We grow more unsure about our preconceptions about the characters and their situations over the course of the movie, and by the end we're left with the truth that in the end we often don't get to know the truth about things and that there's a limit to what we can actually do to help. In an era when people are looking for marching orders to 'save the world' such a message can seem especially disturbing.


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I agree with a lot of what you said about the movie but I think there's much more to the ending than that. While the whole film steeps everything in the morally murky context of never quite knowing for sure if what you're doing is right, the ending does suggest how people might be able to make the world a better place. Specifically, it directs the same moral in different ways at two types of potential viewers: those who perpetrate racial violence and bigotry (represented by Sam Rockwell's character) and those whose loved ones have been the victims of violence (represented by Frances McDormand's character).

To people whose loved ones have been murdered, or raped, or both, the film says it's true that sometimes these crimes just go unsolved without a known suspect who can be tied to the evidence, but one day you might encounter someone who is guilty of the same crimes, someone whom you don't know and whose victims you never knew. If somebody on the other side of the world were to encounter the perpetrator who took your loved one away from you, you might wish that stranger would bring that perpetrator to justice on behalf of you and your loved one, even if you would never know that it happened, if only to prevent that perpetrator from ever claiming another victim. While you may not ever encounter the person who took away your loved one, if you do ever encounter someone who inflicted the same kind of suffering on a family you've never met, you can take it upon yourself to bring about justice on their behalf.

To people who have perpetrated racial violence and bigotry, and especially people who have done so thinking it was in service of society, the film says you could make your wrath worthwhile by directing it at those who victimize the innocent, particularly at the rapists and murderers of your own race toward whom you may have turned a blind eye in the past, because unscrutinized people like that can do horrible things with such free reign.

When McDormand and Rockwell's characters are driving off to Idaho, they both acknowledge that they're not sure if they'll actually do the deed when they get there. The ending of the film is a morally murky call to vigilantism. Nothing controversial there...
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