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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby eabaker » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:35 pm

Dr Kain wrote:I don't know why, but I just can't get into Argento's movies. I've watched Suspiria, found it rather average. I've seen another one that I can not remember the title of, found that to be pretty generic and forgettable. His version of Dracula was awful too.


"Average" is strange word to apply to Suspiria. Love it or hate it, it's sufficiently idiosyncratic that it almost always leaves a strong impression, and most people find it difficult to really measure directly against other genre cinema.

As for his version of Dracula, well... it's really best to avoid any post-80s Argento. I mean, Trauma is okay, and The Stendhal Syndrome has a really strong first half, but overall I tend to recommend people start by focusing on the period from Deep Red through Opera.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:30 am

eabaker wrote:As for his version of Dracula, well... it's really best to avoid any post-80s Argento. I mean, Trauma is okay, and The Stendhal Syndrome has a really strong first half, but overall I tend to recommend people start by focusing on the period from Deep Red through Opera.


Noted.

Little Evil

This Netflix original movie is about a new stepdad (Adam Scott) who comes to believe his new stepson in the Antichrist - parodying lots of horror tropes, mainly The Omen. This is... like a romp, a light enjoyable romp. It's like a more mature (re: swearing and some gore) version of one of those family friendly Halloween TV movies you'd get in the '90s and early '00s. Strong cast, cameo game is strong, directed by the Tucker and Dale vs. Evil guy.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:51 pm

IT - 10/10

Brazil - Uh... yeah... I couldn't really get into this one. It just seemed to be a lot of random nonsense. I know it was meant to be a social commentary on how ridiculous beauracracy is and that you can get buried in paperwork, but that doesn't mean it gripped me. The camera work were fantastic, especially during the chase scene at the end of the movie, but overall, it just left me with a "meh" feeling. It also dragged on way too long as it did not need to be nearly two and a half hours long. I was bored by the hour mark. Still, it was creative in its execution, so I'm going to give it a generous 7/10.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:50 am

eabaker wrote:"Average" is strange word to apply to Suspiria. Love it or hate it, it's sufficiently idiosyncratic that it almost always leaves a strong impression, and most people find it difficult to really measure directly against other genre cinema.


I felt Suspiria was like a visual album: music and images coming together. I didn't really think of it as a narrative film. Seems to be the 'in' thing to judge movies solely by narrative, and the internet seems to be exacerbate this (see every Youtube review ever). There are many, many different styles of film and the metric you judge Film A by may have no bearing on judging Film B.

Saw Medusa Against the Son of Hercules on Svengoolie. I generally dig these Italian sword-and-sandal movies of the late '50s and early '60s, and this is a pretty enjoyable one. It's actually about Perseus (the 'Son of Hercules' title was because of a US syndication package collecting a bunch of these unrelated films and selling them as descendants of Hercules), but Clash of the Titans hewed much closer to the myth. The best thing about the movie is that Carlo Rambaldi (of E.T., Alien, and giant mechanical Kong in '76 fame) made two full size creature puppets: a dragon and Medusa. The dragon looks cool but moves stiffly. A wiser director may have shot it more judicially to sell the illusion. The Medusa is awesome: not a lady with snakes for hair, but a living tree with roots like scurrying insectoid legs, tentacles for branches, and a single glowing eye. It's positively Lovecraftian!
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:02 pm

We went to see IT again. Still a 10/10. God damn this movie is phenomenal.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:10 pm

IT

I took my sister and currently Hurricane dislocated nephews to see this movie, as apparently most other Americans did (geez, I knew this movie was gonna do well, but I didn't expect such a - pardon the pun - monster hit). It's terrific fun: a honest-to-god kids adventure movie with a R-rated horror movie happening in it. Feels similar to Gremlins and Poltergeist but with a graver and grislier monster. The Goonies is also a good reference point. The cast is excellent all around. Finn Wolfhard must have had a great time going from the upstanding kid leader Mike in Stranger Things to being the swearing, insult-spewing kid of the group in this movie.

My only real complaint is that when Pennywise gets all monstrous the CGI and digital jitteriness effect is often straight out of the '00s and I think if they had gone more simple and practical with those moments they'd be more effective (think Sadako vs. Samara). Doesn't take away from an otherwise fine performance by Skarsgård as the monster.

And again, despite what analytics are saying about the disappointing overall box office this year it has been, for me, a terrific year for movies! I started the year by making a double feature of Your Name and Get Out (one of my fav theater experiences), saw Kong and Baby Driver multiple times, etc. The lesson I hope Hollywood learns is to offer variety: the only thing that'll get people into theater seats is for movies to be a kind of event, and it's hard for everything to be an event if they're so similar.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:19 pm

It - maybe not super scary, but Skarsgard is amazing as Pennywise...in fact, I prefer it to Curry's performance (just BARELY). Also, the movie has an amazing amount of HEART for a horror movie. In the first five minutes alone, they establish two characters so well that I was dreading what we ALL know happens in the opening scene. I felt so bad, and wished it didn't have to happen. That's amazing for any movie, but especially one where you already know what's going to happen. Some departures from the book, and a couple in big ways including a character or two that gets kinda sidelined a little more than they should, but I also felt like the filmmakers all understood the essence of the story and the essence of Stephen King. At one point, everything felt so lifted out of Stephen King's mind, that I had a grin on my face for basically the rest of the film. It's not perfect: as I mentioned a character or two gets sidelined, and I wish it had been a little less JUMP LOUD SCARE NOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SCARY SO IT'S LOUD AND SPOOOKY TIME!!!! but I had an absolute BLAST with it and it's like a 4.5 or 4 outta 5 for me.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:34 pm

^Yeah, I conflate some of the unnecessary CGI stuff with the loud jump scares. My only real complaint for an otherwise really solid film.

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Georgie's struggling into the street after his arm getting pulled off and then Pennywise's arm elongating to pull him into the storm drain were far more frightening than any jump scare.


Just how many Skarsgards are out there, anyway?
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby canofhumdingers » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:45 pm

Your guys' glowing reviews made me look a little closer into this movie. I'm not usually a fan of horror (except the classics, generally before the 70's. mostly 30's-50's) but y'all had such high praise and then comparing it to things like ET, Goonies, etc. piqued my interest. So I read up a bit more about it... and NOPE. Definitely not going to see this. I absolutely cannot stand watching horrible things happen to kids in tv and movies anymore. I used to be able to separate myself from what was happening on screen (so long as it wasn't TOO graphic), knowing it wasn't real. But ever since becoming a parent I just cannot watch kids being traumatized like that. It makes the rest of the experience completely unenjoyable.

I'd say my limit now is stuff like Stranger Things or the original Twin Peaks, where the really gruesome or traumatizing stuff is not shown, or happens to older (almost adult) teens. IT sounds like it goes WAY past my threshold of what I can stomach when it comes to kids.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:00 am

/\ Whimp!!! Kids should not be protected just because they are kids. :mrgreen: Besides, from my understanding, the majority of the stuff doesn't happen until they are adults as the book was originally done then with flashbacks to when they were kids.

The Haunted Palace - Another pretty solid Vincent Price movie, although I felt like this one needed to be longer. There really wasn't an ending, it just kind of stops and they needed more time to build up the struggle between Ward and his great grandfather. That aside, the camera work and atmosphere continue to impress me as does the acting of the cast. It was odd to see Lon Chaney and Elisha Cook Jr in color as I'm used to seeing those two actors in B&W. Overall, not as good as Usher, Pit, or Red Death, but still a solid movie overall. I give it an 8/10.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:16 am

Went and saw It tonight. I enjoyed it better than the original mini series but Curry will forever be the superior Pennywise for me. The movie wasn't scary at all not like people made it out to be. I didn't even jump once.

Overall I'd give the movie a 7.5 or 8 out of 10.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:20 am

It depends on what your definition of scary is. To me, scary means it has tension, suspense, horror, monsters, all of which this movie had. The music really amped up the tension, especially during the scene where
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the leper zombie chased Eddie, the headless boy chased Ben through the library, and the painting lady attacked Stan.


As for Curry, from the clips I've seen of the mini series, Curry wasa joke. He acted like a stalker in clown make up. Not like a demonic jester that serves Flagg.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby klen7 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:04 am

canofhumdingers wrote:But ever since becoming a parent I just cannot watch kids being traumatized like that. It makes the rest of the experience completely unenjoyable.


I know the feels. Becoming a parent was definitely a paradigm shift for both my wife and myself.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby eabaker » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:51 pm

Dr Kain wrote:It depends on what your definition of scary is. To me, scary means it has tension, suspense, horror, monsters, all of which this movie had.


Yeah, I know this is a pretty common sentiment to express these days, but horror movies have become way too focused on "jump scares," and I think they're increasingly becoming something the audience is trained to expect. Then they declare really interesting movies failures for not providing something that they were never designed for in the first place.

Honestly, I don't approach horror looking primarily to be scared. I really hate the term "scary movie," in fact; it reduces horror to one of its most shallow aspects. I am much more interested in being disturbed, unnerved, left with something to really chew on about the ideas driving the story or the psychology of the characters.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby jellydonut25 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:54 pm

klen7 wrote:
canofhumdingers wrote:But ever since becoming a parent I just cannot watch kids being traumatized like that. It makes the rest of the experience completely unenjoyable.


I know the feels. Becoming a parent was definitely a paradigm shift for both my wife and myself.

I too had my whole worldview shaken when I became a dad, but for me, it's more just that stuff hits me harder now. I felt awful for Bill and Georgie at the beginning of the movie, and was shocked by the level of violence depicted against kids in the movie and it hit me really hard...but in a way, I kinda like that. Being a dad has opened me up to actually FEELING things from entertainment instead of just being a passive observer.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:05 pm

eabaker wrote:
Dr Kain wrote:It depends on what your definition of scary is. To me, scary means it has tension, suspense, horror, monsters, all of which this movie had.


Yeah, I know this is a pretty common sentiment to express these days, but horror movies have become way too focused on "jump scares," and I think they're increasingly becoming something the audience is trained to expect. Then they declare really interesting movies failures for not providing something that they were never designed for in the first place.

Honestly, I don't approach horror looking primarily to be scared. I really hate the term "scary movie," in fact; it reduces horror to one of its most shallow aspects. I am much more interested in being disturbed, unnerved, left with something to really chew on about the ideas driving the story or the psychology of the characters.


It had maybe 3 jump scares in total, if that.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:07 pm

What scares are is entirely subjective. There were a few jumps scares, a couple of manic digital jittery moments straight out of the early '00s, some moments of dread, tense moments, a few disturbing moments, bizarre visual moments... I think IT provided a little sample of various different types of scares throughout. Maybe the folks saying there are no scares are ones who only like one patented type of film scare and were disappointed the movie wasn't all that kind of scare.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby eabaker » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:10 pm

Dr Kain wrote:
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Dr Kain wrote:It depends on what your definition of scary is. To me, scary means it has tension, suspense, horror, monsters, all of which this movie had.


Yeah, I know this is a pretty common sentiment to express these days, but horror movies have become way too focused on "jump scares," and I think they're increasingly becoming something the audience is trained to expect. Then they declare really interesting movies failures for not providing something that they were never designed for in the first place.

Honestly, I don't approach horror looking primarily to be scared. I really hate the term "scary movie," in fact; it reduces horror to one of its most shallow aspects. I am much more interested in being disturbed, unnerved, left with something to really chew on about the ideas driving the story or the psychology of the characters.


It had maybe 3 jump scares in total, if that.


You're aware that I was agreeing with your sentiment, right? I wasn't making any direct comment on It.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:22 pm

Fantastic Dinosaurs of the Movies is on Amazon Prime, people! This is not a drill!
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby canofhumdingers » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:05 pm

lhb412 wrote:Fantastic Dinosaurs of the Movies is on Amazon Prime, people! This is not a drill!


Sweet! Thanks for the heads up. And thanks to that, I also found Ray Harryhausen: Special Effects Titan, Long Live the King (a 2017 doc about King Kong '33), I Was a Teenage Movie Maker, and a series of docs all titled Monster Madness about various eras of movie monsters. All on prime.

I don't think I've seen any of these (except maybe the Harryhausen one), but they all look interesting. And I've heard so many people talk about Fantastic Dinosaurs that I'm excited to see it.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:22 pm

^Fantastic Dinosaurs isn't really a doc. Well, there's a little intro at the beginning providing some bare essentials, but basically it was a VHS tape that collected all these giant monster movie trailers. It was the first time I (and many others, apparently) found out about a lot of these movies and got clued into who Ray Harryhausen was - it includes the long Golden Voyage of Sinbad teaser, which was more of a behind the scenes profile of who Ray was and all the creatures he's created.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby klen7 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:34 pm

That vhs defined me
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby Dr Kain » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:02 am

lhb412 wrote: Maybe the folks saying there are no scares are ones who only like one patented type of film scare and were disappointed the movie wasn't all that kind of scare.


Probably. There was one guy on one of the Facebook pages I'm on complaining that there was barely any gore in the movie outside of the bathroom scene and that the movie needed gallons of it to be good. :roll:
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby lhb412 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:25 am

John Wick

The only thing stupider than killing John Wick's dog and stealing his car is to knock John Wick unconscious and not immediately kill him. I mean, you might as well just shoot yourself at that point.
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Re: Recently watched movies!

Postby O.Supreme » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:59 am

Just watched well...the last half or so of X Men Days of Future Past (happened to catch it on FX last night). ... Man I love the end of this movie, how it sets everything right that Last Stand screwed up. Too bad Apocalypse & Logan had to screw thing s up again continuity wise (I know everyone loves LOAGAN the film that's fine, but for me it ruined the bright future that the X-Men had fought so hard to win).

Also its been years since I tried to watch a film on regular television...gawd the commercials are agonizing, I cant imagine spending 3 hours and nearly 25% of that time in ads...I'm so glad we will be back in our own place in a couple months with just Netflix and online channels, I loved having no commercial television.
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