TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby XvGojira » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:04 pm

Kind of a long shot, but I had a boot sub of this on VHS which had a teaser for the upcoming "American Godzilla film". Does anyone have video of that teaser?
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby DannyBeane » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:22 pm

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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby XvGojira » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:46 pm

YES! Thank you!
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby lhb412 » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:51 pm

^Whoa, reminds me of the early teaser trailers for The Grinch Who Stole Christmas and Where the Wild Things Are that I've read about (haven't been able to find them online); both movies ended up spending years to actually get made after those teasers.
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby DannyBeane » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:32 pm

XvGojira wrote:YES! Thank you!

You're welcome!
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby lhb412 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:57 pm

I'm sure it's already been said many times before, perhaps in this very thread and I've forgot, but there's a nice little synchronicity in this movie with the kaiju and mecha: while Godzilla's mechanical counterpart is, of course, Mechagodzilla, Garuda could be seen as Rodan's counterpart. Like Rodan and Godzilla, Garuda and Mechagodzilla are rivals, just in a different way. Both duos end up physically or spiritually fusing in the end to level up.
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby MekaGojira3k » Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:00 am

Is Baby Godzilla's counterpart that dinky pteranodon glider?
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby lhb412 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:08 am

*shakes ball*

All signs point to... yes.
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby jellydonut25 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:52 pm

Or maybe his counterpart is plant music. Because magical psychic strength.
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby lhb412 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:59 pm

Listen, I said it was a bit of synchronicity, not a big bag full of synchronicity.
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby Gman2887 » Mon May 22, 2017 1:39 am

The adoration this movie gets 24 years later baffles me.
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby lhb412 » Mon May 22, 2017 1:47 am

^I guess people just like the mecha element? In retrospect, Mecha King Ghidorah was far cooler in the ten minutes it had. Emmy was a far more likable pilot, too.

I mean, it's not terrible, but if I list the Heisie films in order of preference this film is squarely in the middle.
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby jellydonut25 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:28 pm

Gman2887 wrote:The adoration this movie gets 24 years later baffles me.

Me too. At one point, it would have been my favorite of the 90s movies, though that would still put it towards the bottom of my overall list. These days, it's definitely behind at least GvsKG. Though the 90s films have never had too much appeal to me.
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby DannyBeane » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:20 pm

This movie to me is a lot like Tokyo SOS in that it has decent spfx and doesn't technically do anything wrong. However it's just so safe plotwise that it makes it boring. It's a middle of the pack Heisei film for me. Much better than Mothra and Space Godzilla, however much worse then KG, Biollante G 85 and Destroyah
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby Gentleman » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:34 pm

The MG theme is still one of my favorite pieces of G music, but age has dulled most of the rest of the movie for me. The MG suit, even then, seemed bafflingly portly with a pushed-in, puglike face. The Rodan puppet was about as animate as a two-dollar kite, Baby G is an eyebrow-raising smudge of dreck. The film has definitely lost some luster.

One big question I had, even upon its release, is "Why MechaGodzilla?" The original MG had a purpose - the aliens were camouflaging it as the true Godzilla. Kiryu had a logical reason for being, too, since it was constructed around the remains of the original Godzilla. But MGII had no real reason to be what it was, unless you assume that they had to build something that would house the plasma grenade.
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby GFan » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:13 am

"Yeah life. Against artificial life."

Gentleman wrote:One big question I had, even upon its release, is "Why MechaGodzilla?" The original MG had a purpose - the aliens were camouflaging it as the true Godzilla. Kiryu had a logical reason for being, too, since it was constructed around the remains of the original Godzilla. But MGII had no real reason to be what it was, unless you assume that they had to build something that would house the plasma grenade.


Yeah, if you're gonna make a mech, why not design something that could tackle Godzilla head-on (i.e. something akin to a Jaeger)? MOUGERA was more practical.
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby O.Supreme » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:19 am

Gman2887 wrote:The adoration this movie gets 24 years later baffles me.


To see how far its fallen in the minds of fans baffles me. I mean even when it was new I always preferred G vs KG, but I was constantly running into fans online that sung the praises of G vs MGII as the greatest thing ever! Now I will say that it is probably 3 or 4 among the Heisei for me, but the musical score by Ifukube, is probably #2 for me in the Heisei series, the MG theme is just Amazing! It even got into the Shin Godzilla end credits for some odd reason.
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby Gentleman » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:16 am

GFan wrote:"Yeah life. Against artificial life."

Gentleman wrote:One big question I had, even upon its release, is "Why MechaGodzilla?" The original MG had a purpose - the aliens were camouflaging it as the true Godzilla. Kiryu had a logical reason for being, too, since it was constructed around the remains of the original Godzilla. But MGII had no real reason to be what it was, unless you assume that they had to build something that would house the plasma grenade.


Yeah, if you're gonna make a mech, why not design something that could tackle Godzilla head-on (i.e. something akin to a Jaeger)? MOUGERA was more practical.


Something quadrupedal would be my choice, for stability and mobility. Maybe even six legs. How about Mecha-Kumonga? I remember Dark Horse's comic had something like that.
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby jellydonut25 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:08 am

^I'm with you guys and it's long been one of my biggest complaints. This Mechagodzilla lacks any raison d'etre OR personality. It might as well just be a big 'ole platform with beams on it.
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Re: TALKBACK #20: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II

Postby lhb412 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:55 pm

I do like that this Mechagodzilla has a whole crew of people inside it. Could be executed in a way to make it a lot more interesting, but I like the idea of it: a team of people directly fighting Godzilla.

Of course, Yuki in Spacegodzilla is more interesting than anyone piloting Mechagodzilla.
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