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Postby franzilla » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:14 pm

So I'm in need of a comprehensive list of all the different English dub tracks to the Showa films. Toho dubs vs international vs various distributor's in house tracks. I gotta get up on this. I'm sure there's someone on this board with an encyclopedic knowledge of this or there's a comprehensive listing somewhere online. For example, the U.S. DVD release for Godzilla vs The Sea Monster isn't the same as the dub I grew up with on my vhs tape. Gone is the way they utter my favorite line "Oh, are you da robba?" I just want to put names to the dubs that I grew up with, so that I can know which versions and releases are going to have the audio tracks and line readings the way they were seared into my young mind. Also, all the versions of Destroy All Monsters I have employ what I think is referred to as the "international" dub of the film, which has been ridiculed (and rightly so!) by other fans in the past, claiming that the AIP (?) dub from the releases in the 60s and 70s is far superior.

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Postby Specium Ray » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:10 am

I would be really interested to see a list like that. Godzilla Vs. Megalon just isn't the same without the MST3K treatment.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:45 am

To my knowledge (and I'm not one of the ones with encyclopedic knowledge), there's an international dub for every single film in the franchise, but many of those will never be seen here in the US. Notable films on that list which we'll likely never see the international dub would include:
Gojira
Godzilla Raids Again
King Kong vs. Godzilla
Mothra vs. Godzilla
Godzilla 1985
Godzilla 2000
The various cuts and edits to make the US-specific versions of those films have carried through over the years and that's the dub that has lived on in US home video releases. For pretty much all those movies above, the US version isn't JUST a straight-up dub of the Japanese cut. All except G2K add in scenes that weren't in the Japanese release and cut scenes that were, and G2K trims things and alters the score.

Anything (except G2K) from Godzilla vs. Biollante on forward IS the international dub, so you never need to bother yourself with seeking out a non-existent Titra/Titan/AIP dub.

Then there's Ghidrah, Monster Zero, Godzilla's Revenge, Gigan, Megalon, Mechagodzilla, and Terror of Mechagodzilla for which no Titra/Titan/AIP dub exists, so you don't have to fret. There are a couple unique things missing from some of these movies like title cards (Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla has a Godzilla vs. the Cosmic Monster title card and nothing released by Sony (Gigan, Mechagodzilla) has the Japanese title card) floating around in the ether somewhere, but that won't likely affect your enjoyment of the film overall.

So what you're really left asking about are the following movies:
Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster
Son of Godzilla
Destroy All Monsters
Godzilla vs. Hedorah

These movies all had dubs done by Titra (who later became Titan) commissioned by AIP, and as of right now, VHS rips are the only surviving versions of them (aside from maybe some superfan out there having a film print somehow)...EXCEPT for Destroy All Monsters. The AIP dub of DAM was included on Media Blasters' initial pressing of the disc. Your ability to get the disc will depend on your ability/willingness to spend upwards of $50 for a movie just to get a dub.

So, a LIST of the Godzilla movies would look something like this:
1.) Gojira/Godzilla King of the Monsters (KOTM is the US version, and the Japanese Gojira with subs is available in the US - the Criterion release is likely the best version, but also available from Classic Media. Blu-ray or DVD)
2.) Godzilla Raids Again (US version and Japanese with subs available in US from Classic Media on DVD Only)
3.) King Kong vs. Godzilla (only the US version is available in the US. On DVD/Blu-ray. Japanese version not available in the US)
4.) Mothra vs. Godzilla (US version and Japanese with subs available from Classic Media on DVD only) Dub IS an AIP dub.
5.) Ghidrah the Three-Headed Monster (I'm not 100% sure if the dubbed version is US specific, though it does feature some scenes shifted around. Available dubbed and Japanese with subs. Classic Media DVD only.)
6.) Godzilla vs. Monster Zero (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Classic Media on DVD only)
7.) Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster (International version and Japanese with subs available from Kraken on blu-ray and DVD...Titra/Titan/AIP dub only surviving on VHS rips)
8.) Son of Godzilla (International version and Japanese with subs OOP on DVD in the US. If you want to spend $50+ on a Sony DVD, you can have it....Titra/Titan/AIP dub only surviving on VHS rips)
9.) Destroy All Monsters (International version and Japanese with subs available from Media Blasters on blu-ray and DVD...Titra/Titan/AIP dub available on OOP first-pressing disc)

10.) Godzilla's Revenge (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Classic Media on DVD only)
11.) Godzilla vs. Hedorah (International version and Japanese with subs available from Kraken on blu-ray and DVD...Titra/Titan/AIP dub only surviving on VHS rips)
12.) Godzilla vs. Gigan (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Kraken on blu-ray and DVD...does not include unique feature of Japanese version, which is Manga-style text bubbles above kaiju as they converse)
13.) Godzilla vs. Megalon (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Media Blasters on blu-ray and DVD)
14.) Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (Dub and Japanese with subs OOP on DVD in the US. If you want to spend $100+ on a Sony DVD, you can have it)
15.) Terror of Mechaogdzilla (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Classic Media on DVD only)
16.) Godzilla 1985 (Unavailable on R1 DVD/blu-ray in any version)
17.) Godzilla vs. Biollante (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Lions Gate on blu-ray and DVD)
18.) Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Sony on blu-ray...DVD version is dub only and cropped to 4:3 ratio)
19.) Godzilla vs. Mothra (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Sony on blu-ray...DVD version is dub only and cropped to 4:3 ratio)
20.) Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Sony on blu-ray and DVD)
21.) Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Sony on blu-ray...DVD version is dub only)
22.) Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Sony on blu-ray...DVD version is dub only)
23.) Godzilla 2000 (US version and Japanese with subs available from Sony on blu-ray...DVD version is dub only)
24.) Godzilla x Megaguirus (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Sony on blu-ray and DVD)
25.) GMK (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Sony on blu-ray and DVD)
26.) Godzilla against Mechagodzilla (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Sony on blu-ray and DVD)
27.) Godzilla Tokyo SOS (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Sony on blu-ray and DVD)
28.) Godzilla Final Wars (Dub and Japanese with subs available from Sony on blu-ray and DVD)

I bolded the ones you're asking about in terms of the dubs.



As for MST3K versions, Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster has never been released, and Godzilla vs. Megalon had some weird rights thing where Rhino essentially released it (on MST3K Collection Volume 10) without permission, and so had to pull it and re-release with a different movie instead of Godzilla vs. Megalon. If you REALLY want the MST3K version of Megalon on DVD, it'll only run you $500 or more.


This discussion of course does not include any sort of downloading or what have you as such discussion is explicitly frowned upon by Monster Zero.
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Re: DUBS!!!! HELP!!!!!

Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:09 pm

Very comprehensive list there Jelly, but I may add ONE thing. There is indeed an International dub for Godzilla 1985, under The Return Of Godzilla. I've seen it and it uses a lot of the voices heard in the Hong Kong action films of the late 70s and early 80s, sans Ted Thomas (Kubota) and Christ Hilton (Chairman). Overall its not too bad really.

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Dr. Hayashida is voiced by the same guy who voiced Dr. Mafune in Terror of Mechagodzilla, and Naoko was voiced by the woman who dubbed Minmay in the Macross movie.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:20 pm

Well, I said there's an international dub for pretty much EVERY movie, but we're never likely to see it on a US release for G85...or maybe we are? or not? who the hell knows? Let's see if that movie ever even gets a US release...
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Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:23 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:Well, I said there's an international dub for pretty much EVERY movie, but we're never likely to see it on a US release for G85...or maybe we are? or not? who the hell knows? Let's see if that movie ever even gets a US release...


The big question among Dub enthusiasts right now is whether an International Dub of Monster Zero, Ghidorah The Three Headed Monster, and King Kong vs Godzilla even exist.

In Ghidrah, its very unlikely one does not exist (because the rights for it and Mothra vs Godzilla were picked up almost immediately), but for Monster Zero that's probably the biggest question of all. Title cards for INVASION OF ASTRO MONSTER exist, and an international trailer for it exists as well.


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^ This trailer uses audio synched up from the American version, but it was from an International Trailer with Turkish dialogue. Since International Dubs exist for the purpose for being the basis for a translation to another language, one has to wonder if there is an International Dub of Invasion of Astro Monster.

I DO know there's an International Dub for War Of The Gargantuas and uses a lot of Hong Kong dubbers we've heard before (like most of the crew from Godzilla vs Gigan).

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Postby lhb412 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:42 pm

Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! wrote:The big question among Dub enthusiasts right now is whether an International Dub of Monster Zero, Ghidorah The Three Headed Monster, and King Kong vs Godzilla even exist.

In Ghidrah, its very unlikely one does not exist (because the rights for it and Mothra vs Godzilla were picked up almost immediately), but for Monster Zero that's probably the biggest question of all. Title cards for INVASION OF ASTRO MONSTER exist, and an international trailer for it exists as well.


I believe the International version of 'Invasion of Astro Monster' has the same dub used in the American version (done at Glen Glenn Sound), but features a few small scenes edited out of the U.S. version, like the moments where The Controller is speaking in alien language.

As a matter of fact, unless my memory is playing tricks on me it was this version I saw in a theater at G-Fest when I was about 15 years old.
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:37 pm

I think Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster was the first Godzilla movie to have a complete English dub commissioned by Toho for international sales purposes. It was done by William Ross' Frontier Enterprises along with the international dubs for Son of Godzilla and Destroy All Monsters.

Does anyone know if it was Frontier Enterprises or a different company that recorded the international dubs for Matango, Atragon, Dogora, or Space Amoeba?
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Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:49 pm

Benjamin Haines wrote:I think Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster was the first Godzilla movie to have a complete English dub commissioned by Toho for international sales purposes. It was done by William Ross' Frontier Enterprises along with the international dubs for Son of Godzilla and Destroy All Monsters.

Does anyone know if it was Frontier Enterprises or a different company that recorded the international dubs for Matango, Atragon, Dogora, or Space Amoeba?


Matango, Atragon, Dogora, and Space Amoeba were done by Axis International, home of Ted Thomas and Chris Hilton (Kubota and The Chairman) the studio that dubbed 99% of Shaw's kung fu movies and did a few tokusatsu productions. Gamera vs Gyaos and Gamera vs Barugon and Gamera Super Monster for certain had International Dubs recorded here.

Also, we know of them as the folks who dubbed the Godzilla movies from 1971-1975.
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:14 pm

Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! wrote:
Benjamin Haines wrote:I think Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster was the first Godzilla movie to have a complete English dub commissioned by Toho for international sales purposes. It was done by William Ross' Frontier Enterprises along with the international dubs for Son of Godzilla and Destroy All Monsters.

Does anyone know if it was Frontier Enterprises or a different company that recorded the international dubs for Matango, Atragon, Dogora, or Space Amoeba?


Matango, Atragon, Dogora, and Space Amoeba were done by Axis International, home of Ted Thomas and Chris Hilton (Kubota and The Chairman) the studio that dubbed 99% of Shaw's kung fu movies and did a few tokusatsu productions. Gamera vs Gyaos and Gamera vs Barugon and Gamera Super Monster for certain had International Dubs recorded here.

Also, we know of them as the folks who dubbed the Godzilla movies from 1971-1975.


Cool, thanks for the info. I'll check out those movies dubbed now that I know it was Axis International that did them. I like their dubs for the 1970s Godzilla movies. I was taken aback when I watched the MST3K versions of Gamera vs. Barugon and Gyaos for the first time a few years ago and heard all of those familiar voices (I had never seen the Sandy Frank cuts of those films before).

Considering that Axis International was recording dubs for Japanese tokusatsu productions as early as 1963, I wonder why it took Toho until 1971 to get them to do Godzilla work. The international dubs for Sea Monster, Son, and DAM would have been a lot better if they had been done by Axis.
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Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:00 pm

Benjamin Haines wrote:
Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! wrote:
Benjamin Haines wrote:I think Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster was the first Godzilla movie to have a complete English dub commissioned by Toho for international sales purposes. It was done by William Ross' Frontier Enterprises along with the international dubs for Son of Godzilla and Destroy All Monsters.

Does anyone know if it was Frontier Enterprises or a different company that recorded the international dubs for Matango, Atragon, Dogora, or Space Amoeba?


Matango, Atragon, Dogora, and Space Amoeba were done by Axis International, home of Ted Thomas and Chris Hilton (Kubota and The Chairman) the studio that dubbed 99% of Shaw's kung fu movies and did a few tokusatsu productions. Gamera vs Gyaos and Gamera vs Barugon and Gamera Super Monster for certain had International Dubs recorded here.

Also, we know of them as the folks who dubbed the Godzilla movies from 1971-1975.


Cool, thanks for the info. I'll check out those movies dubbed now that I know it was Axis International that did them. I like their dubs for the 1970s Godzilla movies. I was taken aback when I watched the MST3K versions of Gamera vs. Barugon and Gyaos for the first time a few years ago and heard all of those familiar voices (I had never seen the Sandy Frank cuts of those films before).

Considering that Axis International was recording dubs for Japanese tokusatsu productions as early as 1963, I wonder why it took Toho until 1971 to get them to do Godzilla work. The international dubs for Sea Monster, Son, and DAM would have been a lot better if they had been done by Axis.


I know that Toho and Frontier had some kind of falling out.

Also, my guess would be that since Axis did so many movies for Shaw Brothers in Hong Kong, sending it there would be cheaper and overall more effective.

The Return of Godzilla was also from Axis International.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:48 pm

So, prior to Monster Zero no international dub exists? What about when KKvG is sold in the UK or something? Do they get the US version?
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Postby DannyBeane » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:54 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:So, prior to Monster Zero no international dub exists? What about when KKvG is sold in the UK or something? Do they get the US version?
well it was a Coproduction between universal and toho right? So it makes sense that the American version would be the English version.
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Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:32 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:So, prior to Monster Zero no international dub exists? What about when KKvG is sold in the UK or something? Do they get the US version?


See, here's the weird part about that; yes the UK got the American version because Universal had the rights to the movie in all their markets (The Americas, Europe).

But then THIS happens.

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Judging from those voices that sounds like Frontier Enterprises. So an International trailer was recorded, and I think that KKvsG was part of Toho's International Sales catalog.

There's also other big oddities.

Submersion of Japan from 1973 does not have an International Dub from what it seems, though it was THE MOVIE OF THE DECADE and Toho's biggest and highest grossing film of the period.
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Postby H-Man » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:17 am

Lengthy post incoming. (And note: I will not go into versions with different credits. It only gets too complicated. I will be focusing on films with multiple English dubbed versions.)

These films probably don't have international dubs:

    Godzilla (54)
    Godzilla Raids Again
    Mothra vs. Godzilla (aka Godzilla vs. The Thing; Godzilla vs. Mothra)
    Ghidrah, the Three-Headed Monster
    All Monster's Attack (aka Godzilla's Revenge)

The jury is still out on whether international dubs for King Kong vs. Godzilla and Invasion of Astro-Monster (aka Monster Zero) exist or not. English trailers exist for both of these (as seen above). And yes, I know the Astro-Monster trailer doesn't have English audio.

These films have Toho-commissioned international dubs and separate American-produced dubs:

    Godzilla versus the Sea Monster (Toho intntl title: Ebirah, Horror of the Deep) - American dub by Titan Productions (New York). Intntl dub by Frontier Enterprises (Tokyo).
    Son of Godzilla - American dub by Titan Productions (New York). Intntl dub by Frontier Enterprises (Tokyo).
    Destroy all Monsters - American dub by Titan Productions (New York). Intntl dub by Frontier Enterprises (Tokyo).
    Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster (Toho intntl title: Godzilla vs. Hedorah) - American dub by Titan Productions (New York). Intntl version dubbed in Hong Kong.
    Godzilla 1985 (Toho intntl title: The Return of Godzilla)
    Godzilla 2000 - American dub produced by Mike Schlesinger. Intntl version dubbed in Hong Kong. (The US version uses two lines from the Hong Kong dub: one in the film and the other in the theatrical trailer.)

Godzilla 1985 is a special case because the New World Pictures filmed new scenes with Raymond Burr and re-edited the film. Toho's international version was dubbed in Hong Kong and corresponds to the original Japanese version.

Every Godzilla movie made since 1971 has had an international version dubbed in Hong Kong. Of these, only The Return of Godzilla, Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II*, Godzilla 2000 remain unreleased in the US. And while the international version of G2K has yet to be released anywhere in the world, the international ROG has been available on VHS in the UK since 1998.

* It was discovered last year that an earlier dubbed version of Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II existed! The evidence for this was found in the Indian version (Jurasic [sic] City: Godzilla v/s Mechagodzilla) released on YouTube several years ago. It appears to have been dubbed in Hong Kong and probably features a similar voice cast to the Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah and Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992) dubs. Video: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x21qjj ... shortfilms

Here are the Godzilla dubs that are unreleased on R1 DVD:

    Godzilla versus the Sea Monster (US version, dubbed by Titan Productions) - Available on any US VHS release.
    Son of Godzilla (US version, dubbed by Titan Productions) - Available on any US VHS release.
    Destroy All Monsters (US version, dubbed by Titan Productions) - Formerly available on Media Blasters DVD/Blu-Ray. Removed from the 2014 re-release. :(
    Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster (US version, dubbed by Titan Productions) - Available on any US VHS release and Image Laserdisc.
    The Return of Godzilla (International version, dubbed in Hong Kong) - Available on PAL VHS in the UK. (Released by Carlton.)
    Godzilla 1985 (US version, dubbed by the Super Loopers [yep] at Ryder Sound [LA]) - Available on any US VHS release and Image Laserdisc.
    Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II (Earlier international version, dubbed in Hong Kong) - Unknown, although likely unavailable on home video.
    Godzilla 2000 (International version, dubbed in Hong Kong) - Unknown, although likely unavailable on home video.

And here are the "alternate" Godzilla dubs available on R1 DVD:

    Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster (Intntl version, dubbed by Frontier Enterprises [Tokyo]) - Sony DVD. Kraken DVD/Blu-Ray.
    Son of Godzilla (Intntl version, dubbed by Frontier Enterprises [Tokyo]) - Sony DVD.
    Destroy All Monsters (Intntl version, dubbed by Frontier Enterprises [Tokyo]) - ADV DVD. Media Blasters DVD/Blu-Ray.
    Godzilla vs. Hedorah (Intntl version, dubbed in Hong Kong) - Sony DVD. Kraken DVD/Blu-Ray.
    Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II ("New" intntl version, likely dubbed by Omni Productions [Hong Kong]) - Sony DVD/Blu-Ray. **
    Godzilla 2000 (US version, produced by Mike Schlesinger) - Sony DVD/Blu-Ray.

** This version was probably dubbed in 1997 or 1998. (The first US home video release of this version came in 1999.) Andrea Kwan dubs Miki Saegusa, and according to Kwan's own LinkedIn page, she didn't join Omni Productions until May 1997.

The international versions of all films from Godzilla vs. Gigan - Terror of Mechagodzilla were originally released in the US with minor to major edits. The US versions of all of these have since been replaced on video and DVD by uncut international versions except for TOMG. (The current Classic Media DVD version of TOMG uses the US TV version which was the international version with new credits and an excised nude shot. This version also added a six-minute prologue created by the film's US distributor, UPA Productions of America.)

Unedited international versions of Godzilla vs. Biollante and all the films from Godzilla vs. Megaguirus thru Godzilla Final Wars are available on VHS (Biollante), DVD and Blu-Ray.

Tri-Star's intial releases of Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah thru Godzilla vs. Destoroyah were uncut international dubs with excised end credits. The credits have been restored to the 1993-95 films for Blu-Ray.
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:49 am

Cody Himes wrote:Godzilla 2000 - American dub produced by Mike Schlesinger. Intntl version dubbed in Hong Kong. (The US version uses two lines from the Hong Kong dub: one in the film and the other in the theatrical trailer.)


Which line in the trailer is from the international dub? There's Miyasaka saying "this could be the end of civilization," along with Katagiri's "GODZILLAAAAA," while Io says "I've spotted him" and "it's an alien." None of those sound like the voices from Sony's dub.

Which line from the movie is from the international dub? I'm sure this was mentioned in Mike Schlesinger's commentary but it's been a while since I last listened to that.
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Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:25 am

Benjamin Haines wrote:
Cody Himes wrote:Godzilla 2000 - American dub produced by Mike Schlesinger. Intntl version dubbed in Hong Kong. (The US version uses two lines from the Hong Kong dub: one in the film and the other in the theatrical trailer.)


Which line in the trailer is from the international dub? There's Miyasaka saying "this could be the end of civilization," along with Katagiri's "GODZILLAAAAA," while Io says "I've spotted him" and "it's an alien." None of those sound like the voices from Sony's dub.

Which line from the movie is from the international dub? I'm sure this was mentioned in Mike Schlesinger's commentary but it's been a while since I last listened to that.


"As long as the beer's cold, who cares?"

And I think it was Rik Thomas who said that line (Colonel Gondo)
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Postby H-Man » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:17 pm

Benjamin Haines wrote:Which line in the trailer is from the international dub? There's Miyasaka saying "this could be the end of civilization," along with Katagiri's "GODZILLAAAAA," while Io says "I've spotted him" and "it's an alien." None of those sound like the voices from Sony's dub.


Katagiri's line seems to be from the American dub. I've read before that the other lines (my mistake) you mentioned are from the international dub, although fellow dub fan Paul S. disagrees. He says, "I don't think those badly done lines in the G2K trailers are from the export dub. If you analyze the 5.1 track closely, you can tell that only audio from the Japanese track was used. (I'm pointing this out because I'm pretty sure the looping team wasn't involved with the marketing since they apparently didn't use the Japanese track itself, only the subtitles Toho sent.)"

So in other words, Paul believes that those lines were recorded for the American trailer by a different crew than that which dubbed the American version of the film. I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask Mike Schlesinger about this.

Which line from the movie is from the international dub? I'm sure this was mentioned in Mike Schlesinger's commentary but it's been a while since I last listened to that.


Yes, it is mentioned in the commentary. Shin is correct, it's the line, "As long as the beer's cold, who cares?" (It's in the scene with the two men at the bar, right before Godzilla begins his initial rampage.) However, it's not Rik Thomas that says the line. I don't believe the actor has been identified but he has definitely dubbed characters in the '93-'04 Godzilla movies.

By the way, Mike S. has commented on the international dub before:

Let me put it this way: if the international dub had been even halfway usable, we would not have gone to the time and expense of re-dubbing it. Not just because of the voice work--the dialogue was abominable: Yuki had five different professions and there wasn't a shred of exposition. Toho kindly sent over a subtitle list, and it had scads of info not in the dub, most crucially that Shinoda and Miyasaka were college chums--which made much of the latter's behavior suddenly clear. I had to rewrite almost the entire first reel so the whole darn thing would make sense.

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Re: DUBS!!!! HELP!!!!!

Postby EricDent » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:13 am

One thing to mention about Smog Monster is that both versions released on DVD (the earlier Sony one and the later Kraken one) don't have the infamous "Save The Earth" song in English on the dub version.

Not sure if the VHS tape had it or it just was aired on TBS with it in English.
You can still find it on YouTube in its full English version.

Also if you hunt, you can still find Godzilla 1985 on VHS.
Of course it's just the dub version.

I personally saw a copy of the non New World Pictures version.
Can't remember who it was by, but it had a very green colored Godzilla on the front.

Glad I held onto most of the harder to find stuff, especially the Destroy All Monsters first print with all those extras they got in trouble for.

Also IIRC only one of the "full screen" Sony DVD versions is correct.
I think it didn't say "this film has been formatted to fit your screen" on Godzilla & Mothra the Battle for Earth.
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Re: DUBS!!!! HELP!!!!!

Postby O.Supreme » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:38 pm

EricDent wrote:Not sure if the VHS tape had it or it just was aired on TBS with it in English.


Yes the Orion VHS has the "Save The Earth" song in English, as well as the original AIP English Dub.
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Re: DUBS!!!! HELP!!!!!

Postby H-Man » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:51 am

EricDent wrote:One thing to mention about Smog Monster is that both versions released on DVD (the earlier Sony one and the later Kraken one) don't have the infamous "Save The Earth" song in English on the dub version.


Because it's not supposed to. "Save the Earth" (the English song) was written specifically for the American release. The Sony and Kraken releases use Toho's international version, which has always had the Japanese language "Give Back the Sun" from the Japanese version of the film.
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Re: DUBS!!!! HELP!!!!!

Postby EricDent » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:02 pm

Also I got the recent Blu-Ray and there doesn't seem to be subtitles for that song.
Unless you turn them on, which gives subtitles for the whole movie...
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