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What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Discuss the original series of Godzilla films! From "Terror of Tokyo" to Puppy-faced Super-hero, the Showa Era had something for everyone!

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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon May 05, 2014 11:31 am

^Ummm...what?
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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby SpaceMal » Mon May 05, 2014 12:02 pm

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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon May 05, 2014 12:50 pm

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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby MekaGojira3k » Mon May 05, 2014 1:10 pm

I'm so confused, what is Heisei Minya?
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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby SpaceMal » Mon May 05, 2014 3:14 pm

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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby Jorzilla » Mon May 05, 2014 3:51 pm

There is no connection between the Showa series and the Heisei series (and it is a fact that there is no connection between Final Wars and Godzilla vs. Destroyah). This is confirmed by Toho itself. Any mental Olympics that you pain yourself through to create a singular continuity is just a fan theory, and is not going to be widely accepted. If you are actually interested in this type of fan-fiction, please check out Matt Frank's work (before IDW) for Godzilla-Neo, which does just this. However it has to strip out a lot of the elements that are contradictory (particularly Godzilla not being seen for 30 years at the start of the Return of Godzilla).

If you continue to defend this position that these movies are connected, you are going to get laughed out of here.
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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby DannyBeane » Mon May 05, 2014 6:40 pm



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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby tbeasley » Mon May 05, 2014 7:49 pm

Mal these are the official Toho Godzilla timelines...

Showa - Godzilla (1954) to Terror of Mechagodzilla (1975). Technically Destroy All Monsters (1968) would be the final film though with it taking place in 1999.

Heisei - Return of Godzilla (1984) ignores all the original sequels and takes place 30 years after Godzilla, starting a new series that would end in 1995 with Godzilla vs. Destoroyah.

The Millennium series is tricky but once you watch the films it should be apparent they make a point to be (more or less) standalone stories -

Godzilla 2000 doesn't exactly reference the original but Godzilla is already established in the world and has been around to some time.
Megaguirus outright references 54, only the Oxygen Destroy wasn't used against him, and he resurfaces now and again to feed on sources of energy.
GMK is another sequel to 54, this time with a mysticism angle to Godzilla's original attack and return in the present.
The two Kiryu films play around with multiple Toho sci-fi films, but for the most part it's a sequel to 54 with the original Godzilla's bones being used to create Mechagodzilla.
Final Wars, like G2K, is mostly its own thing with 54 being the year Godzilla and other monsters began threatening humanity.
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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby jellydonut25 » Tue May 06, 2014 12:46 am

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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby MekaGojira3k » Tue May 06, 2014 8:16 am

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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby mbozzo » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:43 pm

After 'The Terror Of Mechagodzilla, the original Godzilla died while his son became a full adult. Then, he adapted another Minilla before the events of 'Destroy All Monsters'. That what I think. 8)
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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby Zack Metoyer » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:22 am

Although Monster Zero definitely takes place in 196X, I believe the confusion may stem from an edited rerelease (for the Champion Matsuri?) that specifies 198X.
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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby daikaijusaurus » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:13 pm

All of you are wrong! :wink: Here is what really happened to the Showa Godzilla:



This was actually a pretty good fan fiction that pitted the Showa Godzilla against Kong 76. Check it out!

You know I'd love to see someone try to tie the continuity of the Showa, Hesei, Millenium films with Kong 1976. Now that would be an interesting fan fiction :lol:
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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby Pkmatrix » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:13 am

Personally, I've always assumed that Godzilla II died at some point before DAM, that Minilla grew up to be Godzilla III in DAM, and that the Minilla in DAM was a new character entirely. Or, alternatively, it's just a movie completely on its own without any connection to anything else. :lol:

It may frustrate some people, but it's much easier to understand Showa Godzilla as an "era" rather than a single "series" of films. It allows you to separate out the films, only a handful of which share any continuity with each other. Continuity and ongoing storylines didn't really become a major concern in this franchise until the 1980s.
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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby DannyBeane » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:32 pm

I still say the showa era is a continuity. It just happens to be a continuity that occasionally gets retconned from film to film much in the way Marvel and DC comics have an evolving continuity. I mean if you look at GRA to TOMG there is obviously no continuity but if you compare GRA to KK vs G then KK vs G to Mothra vs Godzilla etc all the way up to TOMG then each film has a continuity with the one before it. So each film shares a continuity with the film before and the film after it. I know this doesn't make sense but its the best I can explain. A limited continuity. In fact I've type the word continuity so much it has now lost all meaning.


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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby walshiam » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:37 pm

DAM is the only film that truely broke continuity. It means that "Monster Island" was around quite awhile before 1999. "Monster Land" was established in 1999 on Ogasawara (assumed to be the same island) as a base of operations to study the monsters.
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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

Postby jellydonut25 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:31 pm

There are semi-significant continuity breaks as early as Ghidrah, with only one larva being alive, then in Monster Zero we have Mothra being ignored by the Xiliens, then in Sea Monster we have Infant Island and the Shobijn looking wildly different than in the past, and things just become even wilder in terms of mental gymnastics from there.
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Re: What do you imagine happened to showa goji?

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