TALKBACK #11: Godzilla vs. Hedorah

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Postby Legion » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:38 pm

All I'm going to say about Hedora is that last year I introduced a friend of mine to Godzilla movies and showed her Gojira, Mothra vs Godzilla, Ghidrah and Hedora. Guess which one she liked the most?

This movie rules!!!!
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:08 pm

Legion wrote:All I'm going to say about Hedora is that last year I introduced a friend of mine to Godzilla movies and showed her Gojira, Mothra vs Godzilla, Ghidrah and Hedora. Guess which one she liked the most?

This movie rules!!!!


When my gf decided she was going to accompany me to G-Fest last year she wanted to see the movies before going having only seen them randomly on television during her youth. She immediately took to both this and Monster Zero. People (even those outside of the fandom) like this movie (as you said), and regardless of how people feel within the fandom, that's the greatest thing about it. It's a fun, kooky movie that almost anybody can enjoy for all kinds of reasons.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:16 pm

I really just find it to be BORING...
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:02 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:I really just find it to be BORING...


Surprisingly the only G-films that bore me are the Heisei ones. :/
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Postby Mac » Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:36 pm

MekaGojira3k wrote:
jellydonut25 wrote:I really just find it to be BORING...


Surprisingly the only G-films that bore me are the Heisei ones. :/


How is that surprising? :P
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Postby Legion » Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:52 pm

Actually, the only Godzilla movie that truly bores me is G2K.
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:47 pm

The only Godzilla movies that bore me from start to finish are Godzilla vs. Mothra, Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II and Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla. I would say Godzilla vs. Megaguirus too, but I really like the titular monster battle. Thank God for the DVD chapter skip feature.

Godzilla vs. Hedorah is one of my favorites, as is Godzilla 2000.
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:58 am

Benjamin Haines wrote:The only Godzilla movies that bore me from start to finish are Godzilla vs. Mothra, Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II and Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla. I would say Godzilla vs. Megaguirus too, but I really like the titular monster battle. Thank God for the DVD chapter skip feature.

Godzilla vs. Hedorah is one of my favorites, as is Godzilla 2000.


I nearly forgot Megaguirus. I want desperately to like that movie, if only because I dig the look of Megaguirus..but I just can't.
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Postby Cookie » Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:49 am

Just watched Hedorah the other day, and this film is just freaking fantastic! It's such an unusual Godzilla film, but for some unknown reason, it actually works. The monster battles are really good too. This definately jumped up my list of being one of my favs!
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Postby MrShape666 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:34 am

I'm always surrounded by people who love this movie. I don't know why, I've just never liked it that much. I've seen in several times, I and it just does nothing for me. It's a bold attempt at something different, but I actually enjoy Megalon more then this movie.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:29 pm

i find for me, that the fights are clunky and a bit too slow.
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:15 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:i find for me, that the fights are clunky and a bit too slow.


They really are, but the one noteworthy part is when Hedorah tries to drown Godzilla in his sludge. It's an incredibly interesting concept, and it's disgusting to boot!
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Postby EricDent » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:46 am

Boy was this one trippy as heck.

It was also kind of fun with all the psychedelic stuff going on.

Of course then there is the infamous "Flying Godzilla" moment.

I kind of wondered why the most recent DVD version took out the English version of "Save the Earth"? Even with the English track, it goes to the Japanese version (without subtitles) of the song.

Hedorah is a very odd monster, but again the environmental messages were pretty obvious even back then.

Godzilla has a pretty tough time with Hedorah.
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:27 am

It didn't take out the English version. That was done for the AIP dub, the dub on the DVD is the International dub.
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Postby rockstarbd82 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:00 pm

GODZILLA vs HEDORAH

Best way to describe this gem, "DIFFERENT"!!! :D

And when I say different, I mean that as a good thing here.

Alot of people tend to not understand this film and I'll admit there's times where even I don't understand some of the films intentions with certain scenes. There's definitely alot of mysterious symbolism throughout the film that throws a bunch of different/weird themes into one Godzilla film. World Pollution obviously, childrens' love for Godzilla, Psychadelic 60s/70s hippie era, science lessons, liquid television esque anime, and several shocking horror elements. :?

I've heard alot of rumors about this film, from it being a response to the bad pollution problems japan was facing at the time (to where civilians were required to wear gas masks) to the fact that Hedorah's eye's (according to Banno) came from a sexual reference that, if i went into detail about it, would result in my membership being terminated here haha. :naughty:

I think that all weirdness and opposite themes colliding really make this film stand out in the Godzilla franchise. The mood is sooo dark yet it has a silliness about it that lightens the mood where it needs to be.

The scene in the club where the guy starts hallucinating and seeing "fish heads" reminds me soo much of "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas." It wouldn't surprise me if Hunter S. Thompson was somewhat inspired by this film or the other way around with Banno being inspired by him. Hard to tell since both the book appeared in "Rolling Stone" Magazine and this film came out the same year. Is it a coincidence??? :?: :!: :idea:

The human story is interesting for the most part but the kid really starts to get on your nerves throughout the film as he never stops talking haha. PAPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :x

The monster side is even more interesting. The Angry Nintendo Nerd describes Hedorah perfectly. "Its almost as if Godzilla's battling a "giant turd"" :lol: :lol: :lol: The monster is defintely the messiest looking monster to fight the king of the monsters but thats not a bad thing. Hedorah is cool in the fact that he's the only monster, other than ghidorah, that godzilla's ray can't do harm, but in fact help mutate him over time. He has 3-4 different forms he could change into. He can massacre a horde of ppl by just flying over them with sulferic fumes :eek: , he can shoot acid clumps, shoot red mercury lasers from his eyes, and take a sludge dump :puke: . damn that was just so wrong it was funny watching godzilla slosh around trying to get out of that mess :lmfao: (you #U&)*)(#*, just wait til i get out of here!!!!) Next to MechaGodzilla, this is probably one of the hardest and longest fights for Godzilla, or so it was portrayed.

One thing to point out is that Hedorah was played by the up and coming suit actor who would go on to play Godzilla in the Heisie series (can't remember his name, very sry about that). Seeing Nakajima and him go at it, knowing that, is interesting considering its really Godzilla Showa vs Godzilla Heisei.

The music is a very interesting case here. I wouldn't call it spectacular, but definitly an interesting theme music entrance for Godzilla imo.

I can go on longer but I'll end it here by saying this film, as different as it is, always delights me everytime I see it (minus godzilla flying though). :wink:
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Postby kiryugoji04 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:10 pm

Hedorah's eyes are vaginas (well, vulvas, specifically). I think it's been said enough here that you're safe from being banned. :P
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Postby Shonokin » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:45 pm

kiryugoji04 wrote:Hedorah's eyes are vaginas (well, vulvas, specifically). I think it's been said enough here that you're safe from being banned. :P


Yeah and those are breast implants that Goji pulls out of it at the end.
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Postby Rodanex » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:47 pm

Hedorah is cool in the fact that he's the only monster, other than ghidorah, that godzilla's ray can't do harm, but in fact help mutate him over time.


I don't believe it's stated anywhere that Godzilla's breath helped Hedorah to mutate over time.
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Postby Goji 84 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:09 pm

Shonokin wrote:
Yeah and those are breast implants that Goji pulls out of it at the end.
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Rodanex wrote:
Hedorah is cool in the fact that he's the only monster, other than ghidorah, that godzilla's ray can't do harm, but in fact help mutate him over time.


I don't believe it's stated anywhere that Godzilla's breath helped Hedorah to mutate over time.


Yeah, I have no clue why anyone would think that. It's definitely not even hinted at in the film.
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Postby MouthForWar » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:15 pm

Rodanex wrote:
Hedorah is cool in the fact that he's the only monster, other than ghidorah, that godzilla's ray can't do harm, but in fact help mutate him over time.


I don't believe it's stated anywhere that Godzilla's breath helped Hedorah to mutate over time.


Its not. I don't know what he's talking about.
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Postby The Real McCoy » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:30 pm

Shonokin wrote:Yeah and those are breast implants that Goji pulls out of it at the end.

I guess that's about as good an explanation as any. Is there even any official explanation for this? I've always wondered what they really were.
Rodanex wrote:I don't believe it's stated anywhere that Godzilla's breath helped Hedorah to mutate over time.
Goji 84 wrote:Yeah, I have no clue why anyone would think that. It's definitely not even hinted at in the film.

That's fantasy match logic. :lol:
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:58 pm

I think the official explanation was that they were eggs, wasn't it?
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Postby MouthForWar » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:43 am

MekaGojira3k wrote:I think the official explanation was that they were eggs, wasn't it?


At G-Fest, Banno said they were eyes. But Banno is also out of his mind, so who knows.

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Shonokin wrote:Yeah and those are breast implants that Goji pulls out of it at the end.

I guess that's about as good an explanation as any. Is there even any official explanation for this? I've always wondered what they really were.
Rodanex wrote:I don't believe it's stated anywhere that Godzilla's breath helped Hedorah to mutate over time.
Goji 84 wrote:Yeah, I have no clue why anyone would think that. It's definitely not even hinted at in the film.

That's fantasy match logic. :lol:


Maybe they explained it in the American Godzilla trailer that ran before Inception.
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:44 am

I always figured they were Hedrium orbs, since Hedrium was the white substance that Dr. Yano identified as Hedorah's power source earlier in the film.
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Postby rockstarbd82 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:59 am

MouthForWar wrote:
Rodanex wrote:
Hedorah is cool in the fact that he's the only monster, other than ghidorah, that godzilla's ray can't do harm, but in fact help mutate him over time.


I don't believe it's stated anywhere that Godzilla's breath helped Hedorah to mutate over time.


Its not. I don't know what he's talking about.


I never said it was stated anywhere in the film. its just my opinion godzilla's ray played a part in the hedorah's mutation since it obviously didn't look like it did any harm to him. thats what i'm talking about.
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