TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla

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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla

Postby EricDent » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:52 pm

Just rewatched the movie (on Blu-Ray for the first time).
It's still a fun movie, but I kinda wish Universal had put just a bit more into it.
Of course everybody would love to see the Japanese version.

The one scene that I always kinda wonder about is the Kong balloon scene.
I know its stock footage, but at least show an attempt to have it look like everybody evacuated.
Instead of having it all lit up like Las Vegas...unless they are like in the original Godzilla (IIRC) where everybody thought the military "killed" him (or in this case the wires would hold him off).
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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla 4K

Postby mr.negativity » Mon May 02, 2016 10:39 am

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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla 4K

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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla

Postby lhb412 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:45 am

Watching Uni's Blu-Ray last night and the crystal clear quality is a bit of a double edged sword; you can admire the great Godzilla design and wonderful miniatures, but at the same time you get up close with the Kong suit which seems to get worse as they years go by. The shape of it is poor, the shaggy fur looks bad, and the detail and the skin is just so bad! I used to be okay with the way he looked, more ogre than ape, but it's the now un-missable skin detail that really bugs me.

Is this the worst monster suit produced under Tsuburaya?
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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla

Postby mr.negativity » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:08 am

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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla

Postby GFan » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:16 pm

lhb412 wrote:Watching Uni's Blu-Ray last night and the crystal clear quality is a bit of a double edged sword; you can admire the great Godzilla design and wonderful miniatures, but at the same time you get up close with the Kong suit which seems to get worse as they years go by. The shape of it is poor, the shaggy fur looks bad, and the detail and the skin is just so bad! I used to be okay with the way he looked, more ogre than ape, but it's the now un-missable skin detail that really bugs me.

Is this the worst monster suit produced under Tsuburaya?


I've brought this up before, but I'm totally convinced that Tsuburaya simply re purposed the abominable snowman suit from HALF HUMAN [Jû jin yuki otoko] (1955). It would explain why he looks so ratty and UN-ape like.

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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla

Postby lhb412 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:13 pm

^ There's some similarly, but I honestly think a reused Yeti suit would have deteriorated to a point far rattier than ratty Kong. Maybe they could have stripped the suit and used it as a base? Even then I'm not sure that would've been practical for, what was it? An 8 year old suit made when they were just getting a handle on the ins and outs of suit making?
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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla

Postby O.Supreme » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:36 pm

Also wasn't one of the Kong suits used for Goroh in episode 2 of Ultra Q? ---You gotta hand it to them though...they got max use out of those suits 8)

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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla

Postby mr.negativity » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:33 am

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lhb412 wrote:Watching Uni's Blu-Ray last night and the crystal clear quality is a bit of a double edged sword; you can admire the great Godzilla design and wonderful miniatures, but at the same time you get up close with the Kong suit which seems to get worse as they years go by. The shape of it is poor, the shaggy fur looks bad, and the detail and the skin is just so bad! I used to be okay with the way he looked, more ogre than ape, but it's the now un-missable skin detail that really bugs me.

Is this the worst monster suit produced under Tsuburaya?


I've brought this up before, but I'm totally convinced that Tsuburaya simply re purposed the abominable snowman suit from HALF HUMAN [Jû jin yuki otoko] (1955). It would explain why he looks so ratty and UN-ape like.

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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla

Postby lhb412 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:58 pm

GFan wrote:I've brought this up before, but I'm totally convinced that Tsuburaya simply re purposed the abominable snowman suit from HALF HUMAN [Jû jin yuki otoko] (1955). It would explain why he looks so ratty and UN-ape like.


Just read in Kalat's book that the Half Human costume was sent off to the states for use in the Americanized version of the film. Makes it seem even more unlikely to me. I wonder if they even sent it back?
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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla

Postby MekaGojira3k » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:40 am

That and I think the Half-Human suit looks much better. I really love the way that looks. Honestly I think Tsuburaya's ape creatures got worse as they went along.
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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla

Postby lhb412 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:39 pm

The King Kong Escapes suit is really cartoony, but I think it's a step above the vs. Godzilla suit. It certainly cuts a better silhouette.
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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla

Postby MekaGojira3k » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:24 am

The cartoonyness is fine, but it just doesn't jive for me.
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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla

Postby Geno » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:05 pm

It's a shame the Kong suit is so awful and there's some really messy effects because this film is so close to being as good as Ghidrah visually. A lot of the fight choreography is great, and there's some good composition, but man those random puppets, stop motion scenes, and general oddities with the Kong suit are far too jarring. I'm not gonna comment on the dialogue, as I've really only see the Japanese version with the purportedly inaccurate fansubs and I wouldn't do it justice, but I can say Tako has a great performance.
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Re: TALKBACK #3: King Kong vs. Godzilla

Postby Kaiju_Ultra_Fan » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:55 pm

I like the octopus attack scene the best.

It's pretty hard to overlook how bad the King Kong suit looks.
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